Grow tent 600w hps hydro under construction

anon1122 · Dec 27, 2009

smokingrubber said:
Let me offer an opinion based mostly from common sense, not years and years of actual experience.

If it were a nutrient or ph issue, it would be a plant-wide problem mostly. If it's only on a few leaves (like 3) then I would look for an isolated problem with the environment. Did you spray something or drip something? Near the fan that would have splattered something toward that leaf? Have you cleaned the fan lately? Can you turn the plant to see if it's just an air flow issue?

Just thoughts. If its really more than a couple and you're seeing traces of the problem everywhere, I would look at the nutrients. When was the last time you disinfected the root system?

It could be air flow. But I think I have really good airflow throughout the room. I mean on 1 side I have a fan blowing at them, they dance all day, and directly on the other side, the carbon filter is sucking air. Though, they are roughly at the same place on the plants. I have not splattered or dripped anything on them. What is the best way to disinfect the root system?

smokingrubber · Dec 27, 2009

This is the guide I will be using when my H2o2 arrives.
https://www.rollitup.org/hydroponics-aeroponics/8620-how-sterilize-disinfect-your-system.html

laserbrn · Dec 27, 2009

Can you get a good pictuer of one of the plants with the HPS off? I can spot nute burn pretty quick and easy.

That feeding schedule is interesting, I've never used their hydro nutrients...I might have to try them soon. Does Tiger Bloom claim to be organic for the hydro stuff too?

You could be seeing the classic Cal/Mag problems that hydro LOOOOOOVES to bring (sounds like it to me), some good pics should solve the problem.

anon1122 · Dec 27, 2009

I took them out of the tent and took some pics so you can see them better.

anon1122 · Dec 27, 2009

oh yeah, tiger bloom doesn't specifically say its organic. i think it is though, but im not sure.

anon1122 · Dec 28, 2009

Any ideas laser?

milehigh970 · Dec 28, 2009

Man 35 pages!! I think I am all caught up! Lol I am putting together a similar setup... gl145 with a lumatek 1000, co2 and 12 site ebb and grow. Ill start a thread so you can check it out..

laserbrn · Dec 28, 2009

You need to do something to correct this issue quickly.

I don't grow using organics in hydro and I think this is where your problems lie.

If I had to guess I'd say you've got something a brewin' in your reservoir. I'm not famililar with Fox Farms for hydro either so it's a difficult call for me. If it were me and I was bound to using that particular line of nutrients I would at this point look out for the health of my roots as I know this will be a problem using organics.

I would flush out the reservoir and fill with plain phed water and and hygrozyme or AN's Tarantula. Hydgrogen Peroxide would probably work just fine if you have it available anything to kill everything alive in your reservoir and to promote the health of your roots. After a few days of that I would go to 1/2 strength nutrients and get them back up to full strength after that. Should take about a week total and the roots should much healthier.

It could be a micro-nutrient deficiency, but generally there is a CAUSE for the problem and directly trying to resolve the problem just leads to more problems. Your nutrients should be balanced and have the micro nutrients that you need. Growing with organics you're going to have this come up.

What is your reservoir temp?

anon1122 · Dec 28, 2009

milehigh970 said:
Man 35 pages!! I think I am all caught up! Lol I am putting together a similar setup... gl145 with a lumatek 1000, co2 and 12 site ebb and grow. Ill start a thread so you can check it out..

Yeah man, it's been a journey, I realized yesterday it was 35 pages and almost 13,000 views. Make sure you get a quality tent man, it will save you a lot of headache later on. Start a thread and post some pics of the equipment, I'd love to see your ebb and grow setup, I am looking to expand post-harvest.

anon1122 · Dec 28, 2009

laserbrn said:
You need to do something to correct this issue quickly.

I don't grow using organics in hydro and I think this is where your problems lie.

If I had to guess I'd say you've got something a brewin' in your reservoir. I'm not famililar with Fox Farms for hydro either so it's a difficult call for me. If it were me and I was bound to using that particular line of nutrients I would at this point look out for the health of my roots as I know this will be a problem using organics.

I would flush out the reservoir and fill with plain phed water and and hygrozyme or AN's Tarantula. Hydgrogen Peroxide would probably work just fine if you have it available anything to kill everything alive in your reservoir and to promote the health of your roots. After a few days of that I would go to 1/2 strength nutrients and get them back up to full strength after that. Should take about a week total and the roots should much healthier.

It could be a micro-nutrient deficiency, but generally there is a CAUSE for the problem and directly trying to resolve the problem just leads to more problems. Your nutrients should be balanced and have the micro nutrients that you need. Growing with organics you're going to have this come up.

What is your reservoir temp?

I read up on the nutes, and they are not completely organic. The roots that are poking from the bottom look abundantly healthy. I wash out the reservoir every week. I am thinking they just need to be flushed really well. I'll do that today. Res temps stay in the 68-72 range.

I hope I can get this figured out soon, im getting nervous.

laserbrn · Dec 28, 2009

anon1122 said:
I read up on the nutes, and they are not completely organic. The roots that are poking from the bottom look abundantly healthy. I wash out the reservoir every week. I am thinking they just need to be flushed really well. I'll do that today. Res temps stay in the 68-72 range.

I hope I can get this figured out soon, im getting nervous.

It's not a matter of "completely organic" or not. If they have organic material in them you're going to have a high likelyhood of getting some bacteria in there. They may not be slimy or brown, but I'd bet everything they are infected. You can't see the bacteria but it will cause while swings in PH and problems just like you are having with the leaves.

anon1122 · Dec 28, 2009

laserbrn said:
It's not a matter of "completely organic" or not. If they have organic material in them you're going to have a high likelyhood of getting some bacteria in there. They may not be slimy or brown, but I'd bet everything they are infected. You can't see the bacteria but it will cause while swings in PH and problems just like you are having with the leaves.

I'll try to go get some flora kleen and some cal mag and see if we can get this straightened out.

laserbrn · Dec 28, 2009

anon1122 said:
I'll try to go get some flora kleen and some cal mag and see if we can get this straightened out.

You are on the right path...

anon1122 · Dec 28, 2009

laserbrn said:
You are on the right path...

I flushed each plant today with a gallon of water and 2 tbsp of peroxide. That will have to do until I can get some more money up to buy these things. Money is getting tight. Anyway, Ill keep you guys updated.

laserbrn · Dec 28, 2009

anon1122 said:
I flushed each plant today with a gallon of water and 2 tbsp of peroxide. That will have to do until I can get some more money up to buy these things. Money is getting tight. Anyway, Ill keep you guys updated.

Are you able to get at that reservoir to clean it out fully? I've never used one of these type of systems, is it sort of DWCish or is it fully ebb & flow? If it's E & F and you can clean out the reservoir I would just clean it and fill it with water and H2o2 and run it for a day or possibly two. Then clean it out and go back to your feeding schedule. That's the po' man's solution sorta speak. It works perfectly well and shouldn't be discarded...go for it and it won't cost you shit and you can go forward.

anon1122 · Dec 28, 2009

laserbrn said:
Are you able to get at that reservoir to clean it out fully? I've never used one of these type of systems, is it sort of DWCish or is it fully ebb & flow? If it's E & F and you can clean out the reservoir I would just clean it and fill it with water and H2o2 and run it for a day or possibly two. Then clean it out and go back to your feeding schedule. That's the po' man's solution sorta speak. It works perfectly well and shouldn't be discarded...go for it and it won't cost you shit and you can go forward.

It's full on e&f. I clean the resevery week with a dilluted peroxide solution during res change. i'll do a flush like you described on saturday, providing things don't look worse. Today they looked a bit better today though. I'll let you know.

Joker209 · Dec 29, 2009

If it is an E & F system I would try cleaning the res with a touch of bleach then rinse very thoroughly. It has worked for me in the past. After cleaning it thoroughly with the bleach water, I would suggest going with laserbrn's idea with the H2O2 and water. No nutes for a couple days as you want to get rid of the infection asap or it will kill your plants.. I think you will be fine if you do both of these things and then return to regular feeding. Good luck

smokingrubber · Dec 29, 2009

I just bought some Oxegen Bloom (50% H2o2) from these guys http://www.agriculturalorganics.com/aspx/home.aspx

You only need 2ml for every 10 Liters of res. I found it in a store in Santa Barbera for about $32. Those guys are the shit.

anon1122 · Dec 30, 2009

ok,

made the trip to htg today and picked up florakleen, cal mag plus, and some calibration solution for my meter. The ph was apparently way off, so I flushed everything with florakleen very well, sanitized everything, took apart the pump and sanatized it. Then refilled it with nutrient solution including calmag. now we'll see them bounce back hopefully. Plus I re-arranged the room and now they all have LOTS more room. Ill post pics in a bit. be kind though, some leaves took a beating in the time it took me to go to htg and get this stuff. Pics. Soon.

anon1122 · Dec 30, 2009

Here they are.

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