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Ok guys, I am soaking the blue cheese bag seed in 5.7-6.0ph distilled water, and rockwool in a bowl of distilled water 5.8-6.0

Now, when the seed sprouts, I plant it taproot down and put it in the ebb and flow unit. Im going to start with 1/4 strength nutes and work my way up.

Do I start nutes the day I put it in the megagarden? Also, will 2 floods a day be enough for it?

Thanks!

I wouldn't presoak the rockwool for more than a couple minutes. It breaks down the fibers and expells too much air (or something like that). Some instructions say that you should let sit for 24 hrs in "tap" water. That's because it takes that long for the clorine in tap water to disapate. If you're using ph balanced RO or distilled water, then you shoukldn't soak.

I've tried both ways and I had much better success when I did not soak.

Before it gets about 4" tall, I would go with only one soak a day. Make damn sure the rockwool gets wet, but not drowned out. When they are that young you can easily over water them. Later, when they're bumpin and grinding with roots everywhere, you can hit then 5-6 times a day.

... bag seed? <clears throat> I'm not looking down my nose here, I just wouldn't even waste my time with it if I were you. First, it will NEVER EVER EVER be anywhere near the kind of bud and high that you will get from some real seeds. Even if it came off some of the dankest, stickiest, banana-bomb EVER. Why? Because it wasn't pollinated by Daddy Dank. It picked up some dandy-lion pollen or something from your yard and popped out a bastard seed.

Besides, you've sunk about 2k into your project so far, spend 200 more on some real marijuana plants. You won't be sorry.

Start that bag-seed and order some real seeds today. Starts extra real seeds and let them all get to about a foot tall. Bagseed, if it grows at all, will probably grow much faster. After 2 weeks in the flower stage, I guarentee that no matter what size the bagseed is, you'll jerk it out in favor of the beautiful pearls that start developing on the real plants.

smokingrubber said:

... bag seed? <clears throat> I'm not looking down my nose here, I just wouldn't even waste my time with it if I were you. First, it will NEVER EVER EVER be anywhere near the kind of bud and high that you will get from some real seeds. Even if it came off some of the dankest, stickiest, banana-bomb EVER. Why? Because it wasn't pollinated by Daddy Dank. It picked up some dandy-lion pollen or something from your yard and popped out a bastard seed.

Besides, you've sunk about 2k into your project so far, spend 200 more on some real marijuana plants. You won't be sorry.

Start that bag-seed and order some real seeds today. Starts extra real seeds and let them all get to about a foot tall. Bagseed, if it grows at all, will probably grow much faster. After 2 weeks in the flower stage, I guarentee that no matter what size the bagseed is, you'll jerk it out in favor of the beautiful pearls that start developing on the real plants.

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It's cool, im going to be ordering from attitude very very soon, I just wanted a little pet project to kill some time and see what happened. Just to work out any kinks you know?

anon1122 said:

It's cool, im going to be ordering from attitude very very soon, I just wanted a little pet project to kill some time and see what happened. Just to work out any kinks you know?

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so you went with blue cheese? Man do I hate that strain... you should of went with Querkle or something that had a better taste

anon1122 said:

It's cool, im going to be ordering from attitude very very soon, I just wanted a little pet project to kill some time and see what happened. Just to work out any kinks you know?

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I'm doing the exact same, dude - running some bagseed through my setup first before the "real" genetics get flowered.

I must say, however, I vehemently disagree with the above poster regarding bag seeds from outstanding weed - I wouldn't be surprised if the bag seeds ended up every bit as good as the seeds I've bought.

I haven't chosen a strain yet, who breeds querkel? I want something with outstanding yield and high as well. Preferably indica. Something attitude carries...?

Bob Smith said:

I'm doing the exact same, dude - running some bagseed through my setup first before the "real" genetics get flowered.

I must say, however, I vehemently disagree with the above poster regarding bag seeds from outstanding weed - I wouldn't be surprised if the bag seeds ended up every bit as good as the seeds I've bought.

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You're certainly allowed to have your opinion. In my experience, it doesn't work out that way. Definately, it's a crap shoot. A couple seeds MAY turn out okay, but it all depends on what you're expecting. One of my first plants was a 5ft seaweed bush, and I was convinced it was going to sell. I've still got a 1 gallon jar of it.

Bagseed is not a bad place to learn. For sure, try it out. Just don't jump to any conclusions like "this system sucks" or "I don't know what I'm doing" if you don't have any success. The skills learned germing and vegging bagseed will help later. At least you won't be too pissed if they all croak.

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I haven't chosen a strain yet, who breeds querkel? I want something with outstanding yield and high as well. Preferably indica. Something attitude carries...?

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Don't worry about yield yet. Get something that's easy to grow. Those yield numbers only apply under optimum conditions and time schedules. If you want more yield, just let it veg a little longer. Unfortunately, unless you know what you're growing, you don't know how tall it will get. Some plants shoot another 2ft high as soon as you put them in the flower room. Some grow fatter than others. You won't know until you do it.

smokingrubber said:

Don't worry about yield yet. Get something that's easy to grow. Those yield numbers only apply under optimum conditions and time schedules. If you want more yield, just let it veg a little longer. Unfortunately, unless you know what you're growing, you don't know how tall it will get. Some plants shoot another 2ft high as soon as you put them in the flower room. Some grow fatter than others. You won't know until you do it.

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Yeah, Im looking for something easy to grow, stout, and great potency. Im a heavy smoker so yield is a bit of a concern, no veg room, just one tent so everything will be from seed for right now and then once I have something good to clone from, then go from there. But im not expecting anything spectacular from this bagseed. Just a buffer so I know what will work with the real things.

What strain do you suggest smokingrubber?

Start with bag seeds. They will be just fine. You'll know immediatly if it's not an MJ seed for crying out loud. I've never gotten a seed that I beileved was crossed with dandelion. I know that cross-polination is possible, but more than likely you've just got an MJ seed.

I've seen many a good grow here completed on bagseeds. There's a good chance you'll end up killing them or somewhat destroying them in the first 30 days so it's definitely an okay practice to grow out some bagseed first.

i got some bubblegum seeds , but before i started those i started 2 bag seeds and im totaly happy i did because it helped me catch alot of problems before i just started those bubblegum. also i have seen some good lookin bag seeds on this site.

Okay, okay. Bagseed on your first run is okay. NONE of you (that has had more than 6 harvests) can say that you've had better results with bagseed than real seeds. Sure there are exceptions to both kinds.

In my opinion. (1-10 rating)
Bagseed: Average seed = 4 Best you'll find = 6
Attitude Seed: Average seed = 7 Best you'll find = 9

I say the best is only a 9 because getting to a 10 requires a lot more than just having a good seed.

Practice with the bagseed, just don't count your pounds before the harvest. If you go into it expecting some 3 or 4 smoke, you won't be disappointed. If you thought you were growing next months rent, you may need a plan B.

And they don't look anything like a dandi-lion. You will NOT know right away. They're still mostly MJ because they came from MJ mama. They just won't be looking like the High Times cronic either.

smokingrubber said:

And they don't look anything like a dandi-lion. You will NOT know right away. They're still mostly MJ because they came from MJ mama. They just won't be looking like the High Times cronic either.

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I have never experienced that, but I live in So Cal. It has seeds in it and it comes from some good bud, it's generally a good seed. I've had WAYYY more than 6 harvests and granted I don't use bagseeds (I don't like the high likelyhood of hermies). It's not because it was crossed with a dandelion, it's just because it's a weak ass seed from some weak ass bud if you're having that problem.

I know there are plenty of people on this site that have grown some dank buds from bagseed. And there are people who have had decent yeilds as well. The reason you probably see so many poor bagseed grows is that it's generally a first grow.

There's that and the fact that you can't pollinate MJ with anything other than MJ. At least not accidentally and it doesn't just happen. Otherwise no one could grow bud outside. This has to be up there with the stupidest things I've heard. Dandelion crossed with MJ? You're so far off base here it's ridiculous.

laserbrn said:

There's that and the fact that you can't pollinate MJ with anything other than MJ. At least not accidentally and it doesn't just happen. Otherwise no one could grow bud outside. This has to be up there with the stupidest things I've heard. Dandelion crossed with MJ? You're so far off base here it's ridiculous.

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LOL

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pollination

"fertilization is said to be due to self-pollination (autogamy); or, the sperm may be derived from pollen originating on a different plant individual, in which case the process is called cross-pollination (heterogamy). Both processes are common, but cross-pollination clearly has certain evolutionary advantages for the species: the seeds formed may combine the hereditary traits of both parents"

smokingrubber said:

LOL

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pollination

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Thanks guy. You're still WAAAAAAAAAAY off base. Otherwise no one could ever grow bud outside without it being seeded. Get a clue guy.

MJ plans can't be cross polinated with freakin' dandelions or anything else for that matter. Try googling "Cross Polinating marijuana".

I can't figure out if you're delusional or just grossly misinformed. Lots of people grow bagseed and I've never seen a strange looking plant come from it that would lead me to believe it was 'cross polinated' by some other wild flower.

C'mon....Don't continue spreadin misinformation, especially stuff that's just so ridiculous.

"Don't grow bagseed because it's likely MJ crossed with some other wild plant?". That's something you spread alot? It's horseshit.

I guess you've never had outdoor with a bunch of seeds in it? I have and there were no male MJ nearby. I've also had some with very few seeds, but they were still there. Not ALL pollen will work. Dandi-lions probably won't, but MANY types of "wind pollenated" grasses will.

Whatever.... Keep growin bagseed Pimp!!!!! More power to ya.

smokingrubber said:

I guess you've never had outdoor with a bunch of seeds in it? I have and there were no male MJ nearby. I've also had some with very few seeds, but they were still there. Not ALL pollen will work. Dandi-lions probably won't, but MANY types of "wind pollenated" grasses will.

Whatever.... Keep growin bagseed Pimp!!!!! More power to ya.

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Some people just can't admit when they are wrong...

You can't even cross polinate marijuana with hops and they are both in the cannabis family. You're so wrong on this it's disgusting. You really should just stop as you look like a doorknob to anyone who's been around and knows anything about this plant.

It's been tried to cross-polinate this plant for CENTURIES and it doesn't happen. It's been tried in labs over and over and you're claiming it just "happens" for you? Bullshit, you got male parts on some of your outdoor plants and instead of doing any research you jumped to your own conclusion.

Like I said, I don't grow bagseed. I like knowing what the genetics I am working with are. I have used bagseed in the past when testing new growing methods. I started out on clones from dispensaries so I never went the bagseed route from the start, but it's a good practice and I can guarantee 100% you don't have a cross polinated seed.

Start a new thread about this topic, you'll feel pretty retarded.