grower friendly apartments?

chiefin24

Member
Im making the move out west here in a little less than a month, and wondering what you guys think about growing in an apartment complex? Ive read that most landlords don't have issues with it, as long as its all legal, but I dont exactly want to just come out and ask them directly if they care. Is there any specific apartments/complexes around the springs or denver who are grower friendly that you guys know of?
Thanks in advance..
 

TruenoAE86coupe

Moderator
Good luck with that, apartments are expensive and at a premium right now.
I would look into a house of some sort, prices are right near that of an apartment.
We are still having the fallout from Amendment 64 passing, so i imagine more apartment complexes and rental agencies are going to be putting no growing clauses in the leases. However it is your right as an adult over the age of 21 to grow 6 plants in Colorado (with no more than 3 flowering), so unless it is specifically outlined in the contract that you are not allowed to grow, you are!!! No need to ask, or tell, just read carefully!!! Owner rented homes can be the very best, or the very worst to grow in, but it is legal, so just keep it legal, keep the smell down, don't burn the place down, most won't hassle you.
 

lvtokerr

Active Member
Plus with a house you don't have to worry about geniuses downstairs plugging 3 1ks on one breaker burning your home down.
 

chiefin24

Member
thanks for the quick response! I've been checkin cl for the most part and havent seen many listings for houses, but ill definitely keep my eyes open. And im surprised to hear that about the apartment prices, as most are relatively the same in this shit of a state where im from . It amazes me how 2 states over this plant is legal and is accepted to have medicinal purpose, while where im at now it can earn you a maximum felony prison sentence... with that bein said thanks again! cant wait to join you all out there soon
 

Figong

Well-Known Member
Good idea - you're a genius. Am going to start development on a cannabis friendly gated community in Michigan. :D
 

Medshed

Well-Known Member
Even though it is legal here in Colorado, it is still illegal at the federal level (as you know). Since the law can take your property when it is used as a "drug manufacturing facility" many landlords still include a no growing clause in their lease. Just because they do that, doesn't mean they have an issue with you growing. It just means they are trying to cover their own asses in case you go over your limits or do something stupid to draw attention from the law.

The paranoia around growing may change over time but as of now it is real. Put yourself in the landlords shoes. Are you willing to lose hundreds of thousands (or millions) of dollars so someone can grow weed in your house or apartment? I don't know of any cases of rental properties being confiscated over personal grows, but it is not worth the risk to most landlords. I believe the no growing clause will stay in many leases until the feds prove that they are not going to mess with landlords. Who knows how long that will be...
 

TruenoAE86coupe

Moderator
I met a car dealer once who actually went to jail because he was renting his house to someone he knew was growing in his rental property. I don't know charges or anything specific, but i do know it happens. This was 6 years ago, and he was out of jail at that point, so it has been a while.
 

TreeOfLiberty

Well-Known Member
If I had to live in an apartment I would grow as stealth as possible even in Colorado. I would find a tall armoire dresser, gut it out and set it up similar to this. >

http://www.thctalk.com/cannabis-forum/showthread.php?77611-set-up-grow-room-help-please

I would also find a small dresser drawer about waist high for a veg box to always have plants ready on stand-by for flowering. I would keep both of them locked from the back even by building the back to open up so the lock couldn't be seen by being up against a wall and the front doors would be locked on the inside as to not arouse suspicion by having a visible lock on the front.Extract vent would be on the back as well. You could put caster wheels on the bottom for easy rolling.

I'd keep an air purifier on top of each grow box, not for cleaning the air but for the noise to drown out the inline carbon fan filters on the inside of the grow box.

Soler and Palau has a line of inline fans that are supposed to be near silent. I'd run the most quiet inline fans I could get for carbon filtration.

I would not run a grow tent or a basic plywood shelled grow box in an apartment. I would grow stealth all the way to keep from being evicted. I would choose an apartment as my last choice for a residence. A house would be 1st choice, 2nd would be a mobile home trailer, and last would be an apartment. Apartments have managers and maintenance that love to do random inspections and maintenance can and often does come in while your gone.

Privacy and security are the hardest issues living in apartments. I also would use a Smoke Buddy to exhale tokes into to keep the apartment from smelling like a stoner den.You give up a lot of freedom by apartment living.

Also, never even mention marijuana while applying with apartment managers. Check out this article about a daughter trying to get her dad an apartment in Pueblo. She mentions that he uses MMJ and ....BAM!... lease denied on the spot. >

http://www.tokeofthetown.com/2012/03/medical_marijuana_patient_55_denied_an_apartment.php
 

TruenoAE86coupe

Moderator
Apartments have managers and maintenance that love to do random inspections and maintenance can and often does come in while your gone.
In Colorado they can only enter your premise if they give you 24 hrs notice, or if they must enter the apartment to "prevent further damage".
When i lived in an apartment years ago, the owner showed up and knocked on the door, i ignored it as we were sleeping, me on the couch right by the front door. I heard it, but nothing says i have to answer. Maybe 5 minutes pass by and without any further knock at all i hear my door unlock, i jumped up and ripped the door open, out of his hand, and yelled "What the Fuck?!?! in his face". After taking a couple steps back and composting himself, he asked "do you have a shower running?". I did not, and i was furious, so i called the cops. Basically the cops came and said that he can do what he want if he claims it is to protect his property from further damage.
So while we have good laws in place to try to protect tenants, it is not hard to circumvent these laws, simply say there is water leaking in the apartment below, or above. And they have no legal ramifactions for breaking the law.
 

Jus Naturale

Active Member
you really think a mobile home would be safer than a apartment?
It's all about location. But I think the larger point is that in a mobile home, you have no downstairs neighbor into whose apartment you would "leak" water, as Trueno suggests. Also, greater rights than apartments, and more autonomy within the home, such as with electrical connections, and the like.
 

TruenoAE86coupe

Moderator
Also very often you own the Mobile home, either outright or through the bank, so no landlord to come in on your home. Just the land is leased, therefore they cannot access your home, it is yours, not theirs.
And then we get into the fact that you have a whole underneath to use to intake and exhaust air, imo a mobile home can actually be ideal. Sometimes regret selling mine....
 

ogreb

Active Member
Yeah apartments suck anymore.

My landlord just put a no grow clause in upcoming lease renewals.
It doesn't say MJ per sey..it has a clause on the bottom about obeying state and federal laws...he is afraid of Federal laws.

He was cool with red carders growing but now everyone wants to grow. Some guy started a fire downstairs with his grow set up.

He is giving me until mid June to finish my harvest however ( lease renewal is next month. )

So I'll get a pound and half or so...should last me until next year. Then I'll move.

Too disabled and poor to do it this year.

At least I get to finish this crop.

Next year I'm buying a mobile home even if all the mobile homes sites around here are ghetto.

80 % of landlords in Colorado Springs are putting no- grow clauses in leases.
 
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