I use a couple of them in a veg over 2 - 4x4 trays & theyre fine for veg but as said lots of blue. I always ran metal halide in veg "blue" & high pressure sodium "red" in flower. Ive also run 630 ceramic metal halide which has red & blue, all the way through & as Rocket Soul said got a better quality bud, just not enough to justify running it. If ya want quality & quantity youre gonna have to spend a couple bucks or switch to a 4x4 tent & use a full sized light. Theres some reasonable stuff out there new & some decent refurbed stuff priced to get you going