Growing cannabis supply glut means ‘investors should be bracing for impact’

Gquebed said:

The LPs are already lobbying gov via the media. So you know thats going on behind closed doors too.

As for muddied waters.... nothing muddy about selling weed without a license. Nothing at all.

Wait and watch.

Again. Nothing new here. Its all happened before with booze.

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You sound like Lp's are brain washing you
It will not go down like booze or butts .
IT'S CANNABIS AND WE ALL CAN MAKE IT Simply and FAR BETTER THAN ANY LP
what does that tell you out right ???

Coming down hard on us eh.. LET EM TRY AS THEY HAVE IN THE PASSED 80 years and FAILED MISERABLY...
Same old same old
WE WIN ,,,,,,,,,THEY LOSE,,,,,,,,, WE TOLD YA SO!,,,,,,,,,,,

There will be No controlling the peoples plant not now not ever

Apples and oranges comparing post-prohibition shiners vs the cannabis Legacy Market. If anything the LM is stronger than it has ever been courtesy of Hellth Canaduh allowing individual 250 g/day authorizations for 1000’s of plants. And, as long as every Canadian can grow 4 plants and harvest a dozen(+) lbs every year, share it freely (or not )...the LP’s are fukd! They can whine and lobby the Gov all they want, but the Gov can’t force peeps to buy poison that costs 3x as much as the organic fiya from the neighbor next door!

The Hippy said:

Respect to your view and yes agree somewhat. But imo the weed culture is not really the same as prohibition for booze was. Far too many reasons to offer why it isn't but I see it different.
I honestly see the BM getting stronger not weaker right now. More cannabis products for sale than ever before in my life so far.
Slowing down it isn't.
The Lp's can wine all they want. Does nothing.

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Yep! its fucking awesome shit to see first hand eh

TheRealDman said:

Apples and oranges comparing post-prohibition shiners vs the cannabis Legacy Market. If anything the LM is stronger than it has ever been courtesy of Hellth Canaduh allowing individual 250 g/day authorizations for 1000’s of plants. And, as long as every Canadian can grow 4 plants and harvest a dozen(+) lbs every year, share it freely (or not )...the LP’s are fukd! They can whine and lobby the Gov all they want, but the Gov can’t force peeps to buy poison that costs 3x as much as the organic fiya from the neighbor next door!

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its oh so true and funnier then hell
Makes me smile from ear to ear seeing these fuckers fail as bad as they are and they're just scratching the surface Its gonna get real bad for the fuckers

What I like THE VERY BEST is the symbolism of them failing.
My BIGGEST gripe is the no apology government thinking I'd forget who they really are. The mother fuckers who were content to bust me several times. and then they think they are just gonna slide in and go into the very business they used to screw me over....hahahahahahah.
How fuckin stupid do they they think I and thousands of other Canadians are? Imagine inviting the worst enemy you ever had into your house. I don't think so.
Watching LP's fail is more fun than just about anything else I can think of.
If your not on our side your out.

FWIW, the Tokyo Smoke here is always empty when we go by, except once we saw a young yuppie type couple going in...

odam2k said:

FWIW, the Tokyo Smoke here is always empty when we go by, except once we saw a young yuppie type couple going in...

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Man if I could hang around one of those places for a day could I set some folks up....wink wink.
We could all empty those places in a month eh....lol

Saboo the Shaman said:

With some grey market seed dealers and MOM's charging and presumably submitting taxes on sales, they will be tougher to root out than moonshiners. Some of these inbetweeners are pretty sharp and they're playing the game well. With each MOM requiring its own investigation and trial to be shut down, the flexible nature of online sales, and the hassle of stopping and opening Canada Post mail, the battle is only beginning.

Edit: For the people mentioning how the gov't will control seeds, too late. With the law already allowing medical growers to share their seeds, any seeds in a person's possession can be explained as a gift. Due to privacy laws around medical records, compelling a person to reveal their legal source(med user) can't be legally done, afaik

Thanks for the exchange, I enjoy a civil conversation. Cheers.

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Im not talking about mom and pop operations. There will always be those, but they dont amount to significant market share.

The Hippy said:

Respect to your view and yes agree somewhat. But imo the weed culture is not really the same as prohibition for booze was. Far too many reasons to offer why it isn't but I see it different.
I honestly see the BM getting stronger not weaker right now. More cannabis products for sale than ever before in my life so far.
Slowing down it isn't.
The Lp's can wine all they want. Does nothing.

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I agree. The BM will get stronger. The LPs know it too.
But that will be the ammunition that the LPs use to lobby government with - the whole point of legalization was to eliminate the BM, so wtf?, they will whine and cry. And then they will contribute millions of dollars to the political party that will champion their cause of harsher trafficking laws.

And then we will see black marketers and those in the grey filling up court rooms.

They only have to take care on one generation though. Now that weed is on store shelves most kids wont brother growing it. Too much work. Theyll just buy it. Eventually, guys like us will die off and those kids will come to believe that factory weed is better than home grown, in the exact same way kids think Mcdonalds makes better burgers than Uncle Larry, who uses REAL ground beef.

gb123 said:

You sound like Lp's are brain washing you
It will not go down like booze or butts .
IT'S CANNABIS AND WE ALL CAN MAKE IT Simply and FAR BETTER THAN ANY LP
what does that tell you out right ???

Coming down hard on us eh.. LET EM TRY AS THEY HAVE IN THE PASSED 80 years and FAILED MISERABLY...
Same old same old
WE WIN ,,,,,,,,,THEY LOSE,,,,,,,,, WE TOLD YA SO!,,,,,,,,,,,

There will be No controlling the peoples plant not now not ever

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What?
The gooberment has never really put the heat on the weed BM. There have been a couple times when the pushed hard for photo ops because it was a hot button topic. But they have never turned up the heat really high and maintained it for years.

You can bet that will change when LP millions start filling political party donation accounts.

Gquebed said:

What?
The gooberment has never really put the heat on the weed BM.

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THEY CANT
THEY DONT KNOW HOW
THEY NEVER WILL BE ABLE TO
No donation will be made from corporations that MAKE ZERO PROFIT!


mr this deal is done for them the way they think its supposed to go!

So far We have been 100% correct in our thinking and now watching them all burn large
Its awesome shit to see and
WE TOAD EM SO!

regardless there will still be this river of tears...from the Lp's lobby....add money...and in some respect those that continue to try and make a living selling black market weeds will ultimately become the police forces new big project....operation "low hanging fruit"....where we can continue to siphon
funding and increasing their numbers year over year...very similar to the last war on drugs which was more of a war on the taxpayers funding the police for everything but cannabis enforcement...
They need something to justify the means to an end, which is the continual and perpetual growth of their operation (gang)..
We become the by product again because of the rampant hate for all things cannabis.
Basically even though I never sell anything cannabis related, I feel this will be another attack on our culture by a counter culture who are the only ones who really are making money off of cannabis, and have since the beginning of prohibition.....
Its time the people take control of these decisions again rather than deferring to those who have something to gain

TheRealDman said:

Apples and oranges comparing post-prohibition shiners vs the cannabis Legacy Market. If anything the LM is stronger than it has ever been courtesy of Hellth Canaduh allowing individual 250 g/day authorizations for 1000’s of plants. And, as long as every Canadian can grow 4 plants and harvest a dozen(+) lbs every year, share it freely (or not )...the LP’s are fukd! They can whine and lobby the Gov all they want, but the Gov can’t force peeps to buy poison that costs 3x as much as the organic fiya from the neighbor next door!

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Pretty funny the newest South Park episode has Randy partnering with corporate slime to blow up people's gardens with bombs because his farm is losing money from backyard homegrows. I think the writers must hang out here or something

some actually GET IT

Ever try to put a rabid coon in a burlap sack....good luck Trudy dancer boyee.

Well

Also, look at how well Molson Canadian did against craft beer. There are efficiencies of scale and reasons why scaling up becomes less efficient.
Less efficient- you have to hire everyone, and if you pay low wages you don't get the benefit of skilled time. Inexperienced management making big mistakes, because they know everything cause they're rich. Administration costs go up, lawyers and accountants start eating your net income. The management starts taking too much capital out of the company. Look at how badly Bruce Linton diverted money out of Canopy, he took over 4 billion and put it in his own pocket. How much experience do the money men coming from the USA have? How much say do they have in what goes on? There's nothing like an overconfident fat cat to run a business into the ground.
Large scale facilities are a cesspool for breeding pest and pathogen problems that never end. Shutdowns become much more expensive when you have employees and administration staff to pay for. Some of these large scale facilities are going to be sitting idle when the market floods, and they are good for nothing besides growing cannabis- from a money earning perspective.
Controlling genetics? Heard about that one for a while, not really going to happen imo. Medical growers and Seed producers have the rights to their acquired genetics. All you have to do is declare them (put them in trust with a micro). The genetic markers? I can do my own and sue LP's for using my genetics. There will be services for micro and med growers to do the same. It may be expensive and take time to happen, but its all possible.