The Outdoorsman
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growing lotsss of miniature plants in 7x7x9 inch pots, 2400 watts
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xxEMOxx
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I would recommend mad farmers silica or botanicares silica product!!!
Also u make a bubble cloner, much faster cheaper and easier then buying a turbo or easy cloner...... The bubble cloner will have no pump to clog or break, therefore limiting your chance of overheating the water or anything like that.
I had posted a thread awhile ago on the bubbler cloner I built for like $15 bucks and the pics of what it does..... btw I did not cut any corners.
Other the that have fun with your S.O.G. I did one like this not to long ago, but with plant number limitations it just isn't worth the risk to me, but I was yeilding nice 7-12 gram single cola's that where nice and awesome great bag appeal and everything!
Also u make a bubble cloner, much faster cheaper and easier then buying a turbo or easy cloner...... The bubble cloner will have no pump to clog or break, therefore limiting your chance of overheating the water or anything like that.
I had posted a thread awhile ago on the bubbler cloner I built for like $15 bucks and the pics of what it does..... btw I did not cut any corners.
Other the that have fun with your S.O.G. I did one like this not to long ago, but with plant number limitations it just isn't worth the risk to me, but I was yeilding nice 7-12 gram single cola's that where nice and awesome great bag appeal and everything!
Yessir!
Things are looking good. I burned 5 of the 65-ish plants a tad, not too much, not enough to slow or effect growth. Considering I'm feeding week old plants a mix that's 2.2 EC (that's 1540 ppm) I kind of expected it. I'll flush next feed, which will probably be tomorrow night. Then I'll do a feed at around 1.2 EC with a little phosphorus and calmag boost, then I'll switch to flower and time it so they'll be ready for a feeding during the switch (I shutdown for 36 hours and do a phosphorous boost at hour 18 -i edited the 18 cuz it was next to the parenthesis and turned into a smiley face with sunglasses lol). So I'll switch to flower in probably 6 or 7 days, adding an additional 25 or so tonight. This means, asides from a handful of much older plants, there will be plants vegged from a range 7 of to 18 days, giving me a good idea of what produces what, both yield and if older ones go root bound in smaller pots, have density issues, etc.
my hydro store doesn't sell mad farmer, and i don't order online. I just had a friend do a side by side with dutchmaster and i was floored by the results. maybe he'd be down to test botanicare next.
i don't mind changing the water in my cloner to keep temps down, glad to hear you like your bubbler! do you mean plant limitations to stay legal? or because of space?
oh i forgot to mention the eagle 20ew arrived. gonna do a test to make sure that i won't run into phytotoxicity issues with these strains, i've found some are more resilient than others, then i'll spray em all before flower. suck it PM! I didn't have PM, it's just a precaution. I got nasty botrytis and fusarium that must have been shooting up steroids. don't ask me how i got the fusarium, i can't figure it out, it must have gotten on me somehow and I transferred it, but there's no vineyards around here so....
itsallinthewrist
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mmm i love me some sogging but more recently im all about yieldin big of a couple plants. just make sure you dont veg em much
i hear ya. depending on how this one goes i might go back to growing 4 plants per tray, so 20 total, i top multiple times and depending on the strain supertrain. some of them, typically indica dominant strains, if i just top them a bunch and tie down colas they bush out they same. i'd love to do one plant per tray and grow bushes but i'd be vegging a while with the amount of topping / training to get them to the size i'd want, and i can't afford to not be flowering for that long. if i do the 4 plants per tray i can veg them for about 3 weeks in the mother room then only have to do another two weeks or so in the main room before i switch to flower, so i don't loose too much time. doing this sog eats up the same veg time so we'll see which works best - both in yield and quality of nug.
also i'm gonna top half of them today, the larger ones. some of them are getting a bit too big, haha. i might actually just do a flush to flush the soil and then immediately feed with a really light mix (so to wash any salts out of the soil, but to still add a little bit of nutrients to so the plant doesn't go through everything it's stored up), and flower in probably 4 days instead of 7. depends on how fast they go, some just hit that point where they're adding an additional quarter to half inch to what they were adding to their height the day before. a few grew two inches yesterday, which is great except not really! lol
i'll post some pics in a bit, both of new growth and clone roots
SOMEBEECH
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those were 3 to 4 foot plants in 3 gallon bags,Justin sry but cant paste me be dumb this am,when you said this was in flower rt.Not vegged to 3 4 ft then flower.I think i get ya now sooo stoned.You seem to really know your hydro i tried back in 08 and did DWC had all test eqpt oaktron i think lol there all in a box in shop.Would love to do again,But im in TX and its gonna be 104f tdy and water temps would be a issue was gonna get a chiller but went organic.Thanks man in advance.Beech
word dude. nah when i say tray i just mean 3x3 foot drainage tray, i go soil, don't mess with hydro, for a lot of reasons
thanks a lot man!
so,
just wanted to show off what my clones' roots look like before potting, and the growth of a 6 day old baby
i'm aware the seedlings in there are stretching, i got them a lot closer to the fluorescents and added some top soil last night, they were very happy this morning
so there's 93 babies total, 87 in 7x7x9 inch pots, 6 in 5x5x7 inch pots, leaving room for some other big ones. i topped and cut away the bottom few nodes on about 75 of them. i let em really dry out then top and then i feed right after, they start growing really quickly this way. i'll wait until they recover vigorous growth to flower, but the two shoots have added a few millimeters overnight on most all of them and i imagine we'll be looking good at the 2 day mark, then a handful more after that and flower time!
just wanted to show off what my clones' roots look like before potting, and the growth of a 6 day old baby
i'm aware the seedlings in there are stretching, i got them a lot closer to the fluorescents and added some top soil last night, they were very happy this morning
so there's 93 babies total, 87 in 7x7x9 inch pots, 6 in 5x5x7 inch pots, leaving room for some other big ones. i topped and cut away the bottom few nodes on about 75 of them. i let em really dry out then top and then i feed right after, they start growing really quickly this way. i'll wait until they recover vigorous growth to flower, but the two shoots have added a few millimeters overnight on most all of them and i imagine we'll be looking good at the 2 day mark, then a handful more after that and flower time!
This is gonna be a cool grow... Seems well thought outso,
just wanted to show off what my clones' roots look like before potting, and the growth of a 6 day old baby
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i'm aware the seedlings in there are stretching, i got them a lot closer to the fluorescents and added some top soil last night, they were very happy this morning
so there's 93 babies total, 87 in 7x7x9 inch pots, 6 in 5x5x7 inch pots, leaving room for some other big ones. i topped and cut away the bottom few nodes on about 75 of them. i let em really dry out then top and then i feed right after, they start growing really quickly this way. i'll wait until they recover vigorous growth to flower, but the two shoots have added a few millimeters overnight on most all of them and i imagine we'll be looking good at the 2 day mark, then a handful more after that and flower time!
SOMEBEECH
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Holychit,damn last post i had smoked some kinda Ty weed 100percent Sativa and gzz it was damn trippy.Im no newb to weed 50yrs old ans smoked i thought the best from yrs of smoking.Saw colors in a new way.sry to highjack.Those are some healthy looking roots,will be following Gl with it Justin.Beech
so here's some new pics. we're just under 2 days from flower, the girls are looking very healthy, they responded to the topping really well, between the two new colas and the couple nodes below they're all toppin out pretty well, will be a good canopy. obviously they're not even in height, i didn't have a choice though when i was cutting, i had to cut and get a crop underway! i'll give some of the taller ones some doses of bushmaster to help level them out. i also included a pic of a 12 day old white castle that i didn't top that i think is quite possibly going to become the next mother (the clone was only maybe 2 or 3 inches to start). imma clone her to make sure i like the bud pheno yada yada, but her growth has been just awesome.
i also want to do an experiment, i'm going to start a separate thread for it and will post the link when the time comes. basically its like supercropping, but what you do is grow the plant normally, like the picture of the untopped white castle, then break it at the base, below the first node (i'd say probably cut off the first couple and do it like an inch from the soil), but instead of leaving it over, you stint it and stand it up. my theory is that this would increase nutrient uptake by enlarging the phloem from the base up, but i have no scientific proof to back me up. i would go ahead and top a sheitload from there rather than supercopping. we'll see what happens! enjoy the pics.
i also want to do an experiment, i'm going to start a separate thread for it and will post the link when the time comes. basically its like supercropping, but what you do is grow the plant normally, like the picture of the untopped white castle, then break it at the base, below the first node (i'd say probably cut off the first couple and do it like an inch from the soil), but instead of leaving it over, you stint it and stand it up. my theory is that this would increase nutrient uptake by enlarging the phloem from the base up, but i have no scientific proof to back me up. i would go ahead and top a sheitload from there rather than supercopping. we'll see what happens! enjoy the pics.
munchies7
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how old is the last pic??? im also trying some SOG but i think im only letting em grow for about a week or 2...
the one in the last pic is 12 days, it's one of the fastest growing so i decided not to top it, i'm still deciding, i might put it in a twenty gallon bucket and veg it the whole flowering period of the others, top it at like 18 inches and then like 3 more times right away and cut away all the bottom growth and make some ridiculous scrog in one of my trays. or i'll supertrain the top, or just let it be, i dunno, still deciding.
