Growing seedlings and epic failure.

TheRealNG

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Hey all. Im real new to growing and bought abunch of seeds to pop and try out, my first grow had some hiccups but produced some real nice bud in the end, During this round though I think I’ve severely screwed up. Nah I know I’m fact I did but I’m not sure if their saveable at this point. I’ve got seedlings that are like 4weeks old now (yes I know they are small and haven’t been growing. I fed the plants a bit too high dose of calmag+veg nutes too early and has causes a stunted growth. Fast forward to 2 weeks later (now) I’ve been giving little bits of water with no nutes to help balance out but still no growth at all. Some have been developing a crisp or spots and I’m concerned I ruined em all. Thoughts? Pls don’t rip me up too hard 4E50904F-2798-4B2F-9CCF-B63AC4E39AE9.jpegE753B75B-5220-4684-B03E-EB277534F6BD.jpeg46DE501D-B481-4D22-82AC-858599526015.jpeg7F8103D4-BCF4-4A76-9D6D-4A88F2A6249A.jpeg4E50904F-2798-4B2F-9CCF-B63AC4E39AE9.jpegE753B75B-5220-4684-B03E-EB277534F6BD.jpeg46DE501D-B481-4D22-82AC-858599526015.jpeg7F8103D4-BCF4-4A76-9D6D-4A88F2A6249A.jpeg
 

harrychilds

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They are probably root bound in those small plastic containers if they are 4 weeks old, I would transplant them into 5-10 litre plant pots
 

TheRealNG

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I recently moved 6 plants over to my veg tent that grew in those cups and were massive. Is the idea of repotting that they had slow growth so the root system isn’t very developed?
 

CCGNZ

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TIME is what they need just water when needed for a couple weeks, these seedlings will be OK, the important thing is the grow tips and they look OK and no doubt these plants will recover just fine, Never hit them w/ nutrients until you get 5 fingers on the leaves. Germinating seeds and seedling vitality seems to have become a lot more of a finicky process w/breeder seeds compared to the old days when all we had were bag weed seeds,in those days seedlings seemed much more vigorous than they are now.ccguns
 

Southernontariogrower

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I recently moved 6 plants over to my veg tent that grew in those cups and were massive. Is the idea of repotting that they had slow growth so the root system isn’t very developed?
Ive left many in solo cups for too long, you will lose in the end. New soil would be cooler than what they are in, roots will appreciate it.
 

TheRealNG

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TIME is what they need just water when needed for a couple weeks, these seedlings will be OK, the important thing is the grow tips and they look OK and no doubt these plants will recover just fine, Never hit them w/ nutrients until you get 5 fingers on the leaves. Germinating seeds and seedling vitality seems to have become a lot more of a finicky process w/breeder seeds compared to the old days when all we had were bag weed seeds,in those days seedlings seemed much more vigorous than they are now.ccguns
Thanks very much for the reply. Makes me feel a little more assured that they aren’t a lost cause, would you suggest also transplanting into bigger pots and applying only water for a few weeks? Or in your opinion should I leave them in the lil cups
 

Southernontariogrower

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If you don't transplant them into bigger pots they are gonna die. Yes, the roots cannot develop into massive roots in a tiny plant pot like that
Thanks very much for the reply. Makes me feel a little more assured that they aren’t a lost cause, would you suggest also transplanting into bigger pots and applying only water for a few weeks? Or in your opinion should I leave them in the lil cups
Bigger pots only water
 

harrychilds

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Would you reccomend just half strength and maybe only once a week if that is the case?
Coco has no nutrients in whatsoever, so you want to be feeding them at about half strength every time you water them at this stage and built it up slowly. They are literally dying for a feed. And in those small plant pots you want to water until run off. So the water pours out of the bottom. about 10 or 20% run off. But if you move them into bigger plant pots then don't water until run off, you want to let the roots grow out first so just give them whatever you was giving them in the small pots until the roots fill out the space. Remember to always built up your water/feed slowly.
 

CCGNZ

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Well I'm a outdoor grower and just put some auto's in the ground that I grew under T-5's that were in cups the size of yours, you can repot now into larger ones for sure but another wk or two in those cups would'nt be a disaster either.ccguns
 

harrychilds

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If they were my plants I would water them until run off with half strength nutrients. And then tomorrow I would transplant them into bigger plant pots and let those roots grow out into there new home. If you do that I think they will be really happy! :)
 

TheRealNG

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thanks all for the replies it makes me feel like its not a lost cause yet. I am going to apply half strength nutes and transplant into 5-10L pots tmr.
 

TheRealNG

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UPDATE (for those who care): I was very impatient so I went and bought abunch of 5L pots and transplanted the peeps in. They all did look very root bound so I’m glad I posted somethin’ . I also gave em a drink of some half strength nutes just to damp the middle of the new medium so I didn’t drown them. Wish me luck.. *praying for dear life”
 

Husk

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I would always start slow and go slow with seedlings especially with a soilless medium. Coco means some lite nutes every watering, your biggest concern when leaves start forming is to provide a steady supply of cal-mag, and nitrogen mostly. I'm not sure how you're growing, I'm assuming chemical. Coco doesn't hold nutes like soil, which Is why you always apply that light base solution, and add more nutes as you see more leaves forming. Remember you are in control, and you don't have to follow feed schedule. Use that best judgement!! I prefer soluble kelp extracts (not sure if any made for soilless) to start, they literally have what you need to carry a plant through the hardening phase I would say, from a seed into a plant ready for veg. It contains trace elements, some micro, and macro with plenty of other goodies! I would think you could literally use cal-mag with mild P K additive and some trace minerals for the first 3-5 nodes and start with light nutes immediately after. haven't grown in COCO before but I know about it similar to Rockwool. When someone who grows in soil for the most parts knows you need lots of cal-mag in Coco, you should definetly be making sure that's on point hahaha! Also watch the salt build up, it's why peeps recommend the run off to flush pots. You can use a flushing agent on those water days. Some flushers provide lil nutes lol! I always use yucca as a surfactant and my first base to water. It makes water wetter! (Commonly found in flush agents as saponins). I'd love to see all those babies grow up, I spent months dealing with fungus gnats and tiny plants like that in 2" Rockwool cubes, yeah 2 months minimum with fucking root eaters, yikes! Algae creep in ,read it sucked up nutes, said fuck this, went back to soil haven't looked back yet! Best of luck, I love helping, let me know how it goes!!

I like to water shallow and often so the roots start to spread into the medium, than I will let sit till almost dry to send roots far down as possible searching for water and than make em expand with a deep watering. As long as you are watching diligently, no problem with them drying out till almost wilting but not actually if that makes sense, but only for the first week of transplant. I pick up pots, check weight for that lol People forget you are totally in control of a grow, not technically at the plants will... Find out how each part of a plant works, and learn to maximize conditions. You're here, wanting to learn and correct, that itself says alot!
 
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