Growing Tobacco At Home

haha555

haha555

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bobkemp said:
Hi --

What cute lil babies! We plant our tobacco in mid-February and we're just getting ramped up to order the tomato and pepper seeds. We're planting 4000 of those and about 2000 tobacco plants this year.

Bob
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a man thx for your kind words and i love growing all kinds of vegs i have papiya, cucumber,tomato,eegplant,patato, it kind of samll but im low on money so i try to get by me and my girl friend are trying to get jobs so we can start a big garden but thx for the post good luck on your garden and send some pics
 
ThinkingGreen

ThinkingGreen

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This question is for growing them indoors. Could I grow one to say, a foot or two, then harvest it? How long would I have the wait for the leaves to be "Smoke-able?"
I understand the drying and curing process. But I mean from seed to harvest. What's the shortest time?
 
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bobkemp

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ThinkingGreen said:
This question is for growing them indoors. Could I grow one to say, a foot or two, then harvest it? How long would I have the wait for the leaves to be "Smoke-able?"
I understand the drying and curing process. But I mean from seed to harvest. What's the shortest time?
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Hi --

Tobacco leaves mature over time and the small plants have little or none of the alkaloids or nicotine in the leaves that appear later in the maturity of the plants.

Until the plants mature, the leaves are thin and burn really fast. In fact, the bottom several leaves, called "dirt leaves" or "lugs" are generally tossed. Even plants that bolt to flower early don't get leaves that are useful.

Plan on growing tobacco outdoors in full sun with a life cycle around 5 to 5-1/2 months.

haha555 - we sell garden transplants, so most of those will be sold at market to gerdeners.

Bob
 
True Stoner

True Stoner

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Just quit smoking tobacco and u dont have to worry about high prices. I havent had a smoke in 7 years and smoked for 10 years. I just smoke an oz a week of pot now!!
 
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bobkemp

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True Stoner said:
Just quit smoking tobacco and u dont have to worry about high prices. I havent had a smoke in 7 years and smoked for 10 years. I just smoke an oz a week of pot now!!
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True Stoner, it's never too late to start smoking tobacco again. You know you like it. You know you want it. G'wan, start smoking tobacco again, you won't be sorry!

Bob
 
haha555

haha555

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bobkemp said:
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True Stoner, it's never too late to start smoking tobacco again. You know you like it. You know you want it. G'wan, start smoking tobacco again, you won't be sorry!

Bob
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lol thats funny well if you know any one in the big island who does garden shops or hydro shops let me know cuz i need a job bad its funny i have app all over this place i have 6 yaer of botany/ag and no garden shops,etc will take me WHYYYYYYYY any ways keep token:joint:
 
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bobkemp

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Hi --

It's nearly time to plant for much of the lower US so I thought this might be timely information. If you don't know where to get 1/6th ounce of tobacco seed, send me a private message and I will give you sources.

I just talked to someone in Kentucky who used to use this method for making seedlings and I thought I'd pass it on. I'm going to try this method this year. In Kentucky, they plant the beds around the first of March. I'm planning on planting mine around the same time here in N. Central Texas. We rarely have really bad freezes after March 1. I'm hoping that this will give me transplants ready to plant out in the field by mid to late April.

Preparing the bed -- The bed will be 100 x 9 feet = 900 square feet. This will be enough to plant an acre, will initially yield about 7000 transplants but more will come up later and can be used. I would use the highest ground you have to locate the beds on since cold air accumulates in low areas.

Till the bed at least 5 inches deep. The old way of killing the grass seed is to use methyl bromide gas, but this is likely banned now. An even older way is to pile brush up on the bed and burn it. This provides ash fertilizer for the seedlings but will also make the bed more alkaline which is good if you have acid soils, not so good if you have alkaline soils like we have here in N. Central Texas. My plan is to till the bed early and wait for a killing freeze. Then till again, wait for another freeze and till again.

Wet the bed with light sprinkling. You don't want the water to run off and you also don't want to compact the soil too much. It should just be moist.

Sowing the seed -- Mix 1/6th ounce tobacco seed with 50 lbs of 4-16-4 fertilizer. We have high phosphate soils here so I'm going to try to use about half the middle number, or 4-8-4. WARNING - DO NOTH USE HIGH NITROGEN FERTILIZER, IT WILL BURN THE SEEDLINGS. Use fertilizer that is a powder form, not granulated. Do this in 2 batches, half the seed with 25 lbs of fertilizer. Working from the sides of the bed, spread 1/2 the fertilizer/seed mixture (25 lbs of fertilizer and 1/12th ounce of seed) across the whole bed. Then repeat with the other half. Do this on a day when it isn't windy.

An alternate way of sowing the seed is to mix half of it with about 1 gallon of water and put it into a hand pump sprayer. Shaking the sprayer often, spray down the bed. Then repeat for the other half. I'm not too sure if you shouldn't also put liquid fertilizer into the sprayer at the same time at about the same strength.

I've been told to "walk the bed down" after this to press the seed into the soil. Basically, this means what it sounds like - you start at one end and step on the ground, move over a step and do it again. I'm not sure if this is needed if you spray the seed on with water.

Next, scatter 1 - 2 inches of straw on top of the bed. This straw should be weed seed free. A potential way to sterilize the straw is by steaming. The purpose of the straw is to hold moisture and protect the seedlings from the pressure of the cover cloth (next step). If you are going to put bottles around to hold up the cloth, do this before you spread the straw.

Now you spread a cloth that "breathes" over the whole bed and stake it down around the edges. The "stakes" can be 9 gauge heavy wire. This will protect the seedlings from light freezes and still allow rain water to go through rather than accumulating in heavy pockets that will crush the seedlings. I'm going to use bed sheets and snip holes in it every foot or so.

When the seedlings get 1-2 inches tall you can remove the cloth to the side of the bed and stake it down. Keep the cloth handy in case another freeze comes along. At this point you should thin the seedlings so that they are a minimum distance of 1 inch apart. This can be done by suspending a board across the bed and walking across it.

Removing the transplants -- The transplants (3-4 inches tall) are teased from the soil and should come out bare root. They can be stacked in a box and separated by moist paper for transport.

As the remaining smaller transplants come to size, you can continue pulling them out and planting fields. The initial yield should be enough for 1 acre, but if you have a high germination rate, there is enough seed there to plant even more when more of them get to size.

Bob
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ch33ch

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last year i grew some type named havana and a number, and 2 types of rustica. plain ol' rustica and midewevan sacred. i grew the havana indoors, and the leaves didnt get bigger than my hand. i moved one outdoors and they got huge. i was going to bring it in for the winter, and i should have. i just crumbled up that tobacco and sprinkled it on top of my pots and outside. i didnt like it by itself, it was like smoking tree leaves. the rustica i have never grown outside to see how big they get. i had 2 of each type of rustica growing indoors. the soil stayed infested with gnats/fruitflies and i really just used them to make seed. to get big leaves you are supposed to cut off the buds when you see them so the leaves get bigger, and more of them. i think my rusticas figured they made enough babies so they dried up around winter, even though they were indoors. my last remaining big tobacco lived through the winter indoors. i moved it out early this year so it can grow big, but i need to put it in the ground. dont think its doing much in a pot. no drainage. it was so tall i had been holding it up with copper wire in my window, because it was too topheavy. i will go plant it in the ground tomorrow. i accidentally broke it once because i would put things like hard drive platters around it and let it grow through them. or it fell or something. they can take some damage though. i tried to splint it but eventually i just folded it around treating it like its a vine. it now has 3 main growing tips. the original, one at the break/fold of the main stem, and a new shoot almost a foot high coming from the base. i don't know how to properly cure them, and i really am tired of using tobacco, but i am going to grow this one, hoping it will finally make seeds. i sprinkled my harvested rustica seeds in strategic places in the woods, and sprinkled a whole pod in my garden but those will die if they sprout because of the sun. i had also had some japanese hops but they must carry spider mites in the seeds(maybe?) because i had an infestation in the only plant i got to live indoors. so it died because i took off all the leaves. i want more of those. that plant was mutated. normal leaves like pot but mutant leaves being all.. mutant. that was my first experience with spider mites. they didnt bother my tobacco. the rustica i tried to grow outdoors got spots on the leaves and eventually died. should have put it in the ground anyway. its probably too late for me to start any. maybe not but i just hope they grow in the woods because i bought wild tobacco so i could get wild tobacco. i liked to cut off the buds, dry them and smoke them with my buds. but i would smoke the remnants of the seed pods with tobacco after i got all the seeds out. i would chew on the rustica leaves too. didnt grow them in the sun so they werent strong enough to poison me lol. i dont know how to properly cure tobacco, it never smelled like i thought tobacco would smell. i had havana 601 and 508, gave my grampa 508 seeds. his smelled like tobacco should smell. but the growing season wasnt long enough. never got huge like my one plant. only my rustica ever made seeds for me. thats why i put the leftover 601 outdoors. it should grow big and make me seeds once i put it in the ground because its probably suffering from too much water deep down. but since i dont know how to properly cure tobacco, and it smelled like nothing when dried, and wasnt tasty, i just crumbled it up and let it go back into the earth. it wasnt strong enough to use as a pesticide dust. but i can tell you how to start the seeds. not how to dry/cure just how to start them. indoors. on top of the dirt, mist or water from bottom. they are fragile. i lost most of my seeds to a contaminated jiffy planter. wilt. damping off. whatever you want to call it. so i replanted in some potting soil and threw the jiffy crap out, hoping the sun and time would sterilize it.
and this time around i labeled my pots. havana, n.rustica, midewivan sacred.
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ntorres041788

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We read it in the news headlines every day, and deep down we know it to be true.

There is simply no escaping the fact that the production of tobacco products like cigarettes
, cigars or rolling tobacco is not done in a way that will ensure the end product is not
harmful for the consumer.

In fact, the only REAL way to ensure you know exactly how the tobacco you are smoking is
produced is to grow and harvest it yourself.
Home gardeners can easily grow tobacco plants (Nicotiana tabacum) from seed for landscaping or tobacco consumption.
Smokers grow their own tobacco for many reasons: to save money on cigarettes, for the
enjoyment of gardening, and to provide themselves additive-free, chemical-free tobacco
that is generally healthier to smoke than store-bought types.
Even many green-thumbed non-smokers grow tobacco as a bedding or border plant because of
its strong pest-resisting properties. Growing tobacco from seed is about as easy as growing
most other garden vegetables and flowers.
The best thing to do is to get a guide like i got to harvest good tobacco..
Get Tobacco Guide
 
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