Growing with Tropic Bat Mix

Should I add further nutrients to the batmix, or just leave it to grow on its own in the medium?

  • Definitely add more nutrients and get a PH tester, you n00b!

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  • You can get away with either really, depends on what outcome you want.

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  • No need to add any furter nutrients if you're using batmix, it has everything you need!

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Tuckatan

Tuckatan

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Hi guys!

New grower here, after 20 years of spending too much I've decided to grow!

I have a small setup, 250W sunmaster dual spectrum, carbon filter & extractor, and a small DS60 tent. Im using Tropic Bat Mix as my medium, in Rhizopot fabric pots (I have 3 sizes for potting on).

I've planted 1 seed to start (red cherry berry from barneys farm) and is now in early veg stages with some fan leaves starting to come through. All seems well, and have just watered again as i think the soil was almost fully dry.

I am wondering however, if i should still be using nutrients in the medium? This is the product i have: Link removed as im new!

This is the main part of the description of the medium:

• 60% fine grade Irish peat (holds a lot of water)
• 40% high quality coco (light & airy for rapid rooting)
• Fertilised with Guanokalong Bat Guano (bat manure)
• Packed with phosphorus
• Ramps up rooting
• Enhances flower formation
• Highly refined with stable pH (peat is pH 6 + contains magnesium limestone)
• Helps prevent deficiencies & improve nutrient uptake (contains Ca & Mg)
• No perlite (easy to dispose of) or woody bits (avoid fungus gnats)
• Cuttings can be transplanted straight into the media
• For first 2 weeks feed just add water

After the first 2 weeks I may pot on, depending on the growth, though if i pot on with fresh bat mix, will nutrients still be required? I dont have a PH tester or anything thus far, and was hoping to be more of a plant it, water it, leave it kinda guy, but I'm starting to get attached to the little thing and want the best for it!

Would you advise, with this batmix, getting further nutrients for the plant, even before the first two weeks of the new batmix is pretty much my question?

Thanks guys!

Adam
 
BadEend

BadEend

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@Tuckatan (Reviving this corpse of a post ) I am currently growing Auto-Ak47 plants in two different type pots but same volume and feeding schedule
The soil came from a tomato grow bag
1 "Rhizopot" 1 plastic one
I am about 2- 3 weeks from harvest and the plastic pot is falling behind in development. Looks like calcium or copper deficiency

However I also noticed "fruitflies" on the plant in the plastic pot... now I am thinking gnats
I adjusted my fan ... put some strips out ...but ...well shit ;)
Next grow will be in Rhizopots all the way (They are absolutely ideal even for normal gardening )

I did come the mention of tropic-bat mix .... might be looser than the stuff I have and avoid compacted soil and a breeding ground for bugs

The link in your post is removed where can I find a reseller for this stuff (I come across reviews but no links)


PS
The word hydroponics mentioned makes me a bit iffy....
I dont have a fancy setup other than a tent lights and fan... my plants are in a pot and get watered every (other) day
 
Tuckatan

Tuckatan

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BadEend said:
@Tuckatan (Reviving this corpse of a post ) I am currently growing Auto-Ak47 plants in two different type pots but same volume and feeding schedule
The soil came from a tomato grow bag
1 "Rhizopot" 1 plastic one
I am about 2- 3 weeks from harvest and the plastic pot is falling behind in development. Looks like calcium or copper deficiency

However I also noticed "fruitflies" on the plant in the plastic pot... now I am thinking gnats
I adjusted my fan ... put some strips out ...but ...well shit ;)
Next grow will be in Rhizopots all the way (They are absolutely ideal even for normal gardening )

I did come the mention of tropic-bat mix .... might be looser than the stuff I have and avoid compacted soil and a breeding ground for bugs

The link in your post is removed where can I find a reseller for this stuff (I come across reviews but no links)


PS
The word hydroponics mentioned makes me a bit iffy....
I dont have a fancy setup other than a tent lights and fan... my plants are in a pot and get watered every (other) day
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Hi mate,

I don’t use tropic bat mix, as I decided not knowing how much of what was in the medium made it a bit more of a guessing game.

I’m in the UK, so if you are across the pond, my links may not be of any use to you!

I now use Cana coco pro plus mixed with perlite, and have great results, but feel free to ping me a message if you would like to chat, happy to help if I can!
 
BadEend

BadEend

Member
Tuckatan said:
Hi mate,

I don’t use tropic bat mix, as I decided not knowing how much of what was in the medium made it a bit more of a guessing game.

I’m in the UK, so if you are across the pond, my links may not be of any use to you!

I now use Cana coco pro plus mixed with perlite, and have great results, but feel free to ping me a message if you would like to chat, happy to help if I can!
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I am across the the pond but the small one: (N)Irl
Current grow is in the "soil" one of those tomato plant bags,.
Bit of an over watering issue in the plastic pot so Rhizo all the way next time.

My watering system this time has been : Feed till drip through (get rid of the excess water) every other day untill the point I started noticing that each plant took more than 1L
At that stage I watered every other day with food supplements every other .

This did well until the plastic pot started having "gnat/fruitflies" only affecting that plant . and what looks like (according to sources a CAL deficiency <strange as both plants have the same amount of soil and are one the same amount of water&feed>

So other than pot improvement, I am looking at "soil"

I do like the balancing factor that tropic-bat claims to have , I have not really paid attention to PH this time but will next (The nutrient feeds are slightly too acidic)
 
Tuckatan

Tuckatan

Well-Known Member
BadEend said:
I am across the the pond but the small one: (N)Irl
Current grow is in the "soil" one of those tomato plant bags,.
Bit of an over watering issue in the plastic pot so Rhizo all the way next time.

My watering system this time has been : Feed till drip through (get rid of the excess water) every other day untill the point I started noticing that each plant took more than 1L
At that stage I watered every other day with food supplements every other .

This did well until the plastic pot started having "gnat/fruitflies" only affecting that plant . and what looks like (according to sources a CAL deficiency <strange as both plants have the same amount of soil and are one the same amount of water&feed>

So other than pot improvement, I am looking at "soil"

I do like the balancing factor that tropic-bat claims to have , I have not really paid attention to PH this time but will next (The nutrient feeds are slightly too acidic)
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are you growing in soil? If so, it requires a wet and dry cycle, but if you’re growing in coco, you don’t want it to dry.

If you are growing in soil, your issue could be overwatering if you’re not letting it get a dry period to oxygenate the roots, but I grow in coco, so don’t have too much knowledge on growing in soil.

I always use fabric pots myself, and use a 70/30 mix of coco/perlite and this works out great for me personally.

you can get tropic bat mix from Growell Hydroponics if that helps at all!

edit: just checked your original post and it seems you’re growing in soil. I’d imagine the plastic pot is falling behind and having issues due to it not being able to dry out as much as the soil in the fabric pot, this is also probably the cause of your fungus knat infestation, from not allowing the soil to dry out, but you may want to speak with soil growers to help out here!

Growing in coco vs soil is a different process, so if you’re going to continue in soil, you might want to check for posts regarding soil grows rather than coco… the tropic bat mix I linked is coco with guano, so for that, you would want coco grow guides!

Again, personally I found having an unknown quantity of nutrients in the media had potential to cause issues, so now just use plain coco with General Hydropincs flora trio nutrients, all pretty easy once you know what’s what!
 
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BadEend

BadEend

Member
Tuckatan said:
are you growing in soil? If so, it requires a wet and dry cycle, but if you’re growing in coco, you don’t want it to dry.

If you are growing in soil, your issue could be overwatering if you’re not letting it get a dry period to oxygenate the roots, but I grow in coco, so don’t have too much knowledge on growing in soil.

I always use fabric pots myself, and use a 70/30 mix of coco/perlite and this works out great for me personally.

you can get tropic bat mix from Growell Hydroponics if that helps at all!

edit: just checked your original post and it seems you’re growing in soil. I’d imagine the plastic pot is falling behind and having issues due to it not being able to dry out as much as the soil in the fabric pot, this is also probably the cause of your fungus knat infestation, from not allowing the soil to dry out, but you may want to speak with soil growers to help out here!

Growing in coco vs soil is a different process, so if you’re going to continue in soil, you might want to check for posts regarding soil grows rather than coco… the tropic bat mix I linked is coco with guano, so for that, you would want coco grow guides!

Again, personally I found having an unknown quantity of nutrients in the media had potential to cause issues, so now just use plain coco with General Hydropincs flora trio nutrients, all pretty easy once you know what’s what!
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Hi

Are you on the "local" 420 as well?
Yes I grew compost this year and I did not do a dry day, which seemed fine for the fabric pot but not for the plastic one

As my nutrients (disolved solids) are in a ratio for daily feed I am thinking of doing the feed differenty on the new grow.

Coco or a Coco Peat mixture seems to be the way (I always counted peat as soil as my ACTUAL blueberries are planted in it and do very well .
I stayed away from tea's this time ... but I seem to understand that you can actually feed a plant more organic that way.

The Bat-shit seems a good idea but I would have no clue on when that is/gets depleted . Nor did I on the tomato compost but....
If I want more control a less rich soil and metered feeding seems the locical option

And additionally another F up:
As my tent was too small I moved some plants outside ..with the current drought they were sprinkler fed ..... and I did not top dress : the plants got seriously flushed.
Hoping to undo it on my last AK47 which is coming back inside today.... the others are going to be Darwin Award harvests

Oh and the first harvest is in:
the 2 plants in a 2x4 yielded 5 ounces PLUS
That excludes the little popcorn buts and the trim that volume wise would make up for under another 2 ounce?
Humidity in my curing jars is 60%
 
BadEend

BadEend

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@Tuckatan so eventhough you us coco you use perlite as well? I also have seen people mixing with peat
The Coco retains less water, right?
That means watering every day? (which is not an issue as such)
 
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