Gun Control

Stricter Gun Control In US

  • Yes, stricter control.

    Votes: 22 17.2%
  • No, we love our guns!

    Votes: 106 82.8%

  • Total voters
    128
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Keenly

Guest
but while we're at it, why don't we set up some concentration camps

ironic


this is the EXACT reason why i am going to purchase firearms


FEMA camps


There is one fairly close to my location

and i will never ever ever go

and the other reason i want one is to protect myself if they enforce a mandatory swine flu (bullshit flu) vaccine

thats pretty much my only motivation for a gun
 
All automatic weapons should be destroyed. Lets go back to single load guns. Everyone could still protect themselves if necessary, and there would be no unfair advantages.
 

NoDrama

Well-Known Member
firstly, your constitution, like the bible, is a piece of paper. it does not mean it is how things work, it could be wrong..... it's a piece of paper

FWIW the US constitution does not give Americans rights, Americans have their rights granted to them by the creator, they are unalienable ( They cannot be taken away by anyone). So it matters not whether its a piece of paper as it does not grant the citizen anything, rather it limits what the government can do.

I will assume that you have never fired, held, owned or had anything to do with guns other than what you see the police carry.

If criminals in the UK do not have guns then why do the police need them? Why are their armed guards in the Airports if no one has a weapon?

Your link of the 2 kids who accidentally shot their siblings is anecdotal evidence and holds no water to your argument whatsoever. I am certain I can find examples of children in the UK doing things similar also.
 

tip top toker

Well-Known Member
i used to do a lot of shooting at school and at mates houses.

the link was more about the fact that yes, a lot of the time they are not well hidden/out of reach. i know most are responsible, but there are a llot that aren't.

as the the guns in the airport, well you're the ones that made us take that precaution ;) haha. or not, noone will know. but yeah, think yuo can peg that to the exploding types :)
 

NoDrama

Well-Known Member
i used to do a lot of shooting at school and at mates houses.

the link was more about the fact that yes, a lot of the time they are not well hidden/out of reach. i know most are responsible, but there are a llot that aren't.

as the the guns in the airport, well you're the ones that made us take that precaution ;) haha. or not, noone will know. but yeah, think yuo can peg that to the exploding types :)

Why would you ever have to worry about explosives? They are illegal, therefore no one has them. Right? I mean if were to understand your line of thinking and all.

Your country has a problem with guns also, there are after all an estimated 4 million of them in the UK. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/up-to-4m-guns-in-uk-and-police-are-losing-the-battle-505487.html
 

tip top toker

Well-Known Member
Why would you ever have to worry about explosives? They are illegal, therefore no one has them. Right? I mean if were to understand your line of thinking and all.

Your country has a problem with guns also, there are after all an estimated 4 million of them in the UK. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/up-to-4m-guns-in-uk-and-police-are-losing-the-battle-505487.html
first of all, i dn't think i'd ever read the independant. load of shite.

secondly, yeah, if exploives are illegal, then they'll sitll be out there, but under much more careful scrutiny and less of them.

i really couldn't care about any points any more.

can a pro-gun fanatic please answer this simple quesion. if you can't, then i don't think you have a plce in society.

do you think that guns lead to a higher fatal accident/murder?

i don't think i've read of a single gun nut here who actually realises that guns kill people faster and more than knives do. all i ever read is the same old bullshit response of "well let's ban batteries" or whatnot.
 

NoDrama

Well-Known Member
first of all, i dn't think i'd ever read the independant. load of shite.

secondly, yeah, if explosives are illegal, then they'll sitll be out there, but under much more careful scrutiny and less of them.

i really couldn't care about any points any more.

can a pro-gun fanatic please answer this simple quesion. if you can't, then i don't think you have a plce in society.

do you think that guns lead to a higher fatal accident/murder?

i don't think i've read of a single gun nut here who actually realises that guns kill people faster and more than knives do. all i ever read is the same old bullshit response of "well let's ban batteries" or whatnot.
For some reason I just knew you were going to cite the source as non credible from some "hack" journalist. And you did.

Of course guns kill people faster and with more frequency than knives do. Knives are up close and personal, you have to know what your doing with them or you will just end up hurting yourself when you get into a scuffle. A gun can kill from far away, so it is going to be the most used means as no one has to get themselves all bloody or run the risk of having it knocked out of your hand or having it used against you. People 100 yards away cannot do those things. Knives kill by blood letting for the most part the victim bleeds to death. Gun fire can kill by blood loss, but it can also kill by incapacitation , instant death, organ destruction etc etc. so of course the statistics are going to point to guns killing more than knives, people don't take knives to gun fights. In fact 99.9% of people will pick a gun over a knife any day for self preservation, you would be an idiot to pick the knife.
 

ilkhan

Well-Known Member
"can a pro-gun fanatic please answer this simple quesion. if you can't, then i don't think you have a plce in society.
do you think that guns lead to a higher fatal accident/murder?"


To answer your question yeah probably.
But until guns go away, all of them, I'm not givin' up mine.
This isn't a simple matter of "guns are bad."
Guns are around and you are at the mercy of anyone with one.
Every living thing on this planet has a RIGHT to self-defence.
Humans do to, its a simple fact of life.
Thats why they call it 'Natural Law.'
 
K

Keenly

Guest
first of all, i dn't think i'd ever read the independant. load of shite.

secondly, yeah, if exploives are illegal, then they'll sitll be out there, but under much more careful scrutiny and less of them.

i really couldn't care about any points any more.

can a pro-gun fanatic please answer this simple quesion. if you can't, then i don't think you have a plce in society.

do you think that guns lead to a higher fatal accident/murder?

i don't think i've read of a single gun nut here who actually realises that guns kill people faster and more than knives do. all i ever read is the same old bullshit response of "well let's ban batteries" or whatnot.
i am curious to know where you live so i can rob you and you cant do anything about it ;-)
 

jrh72582

Well-Known Member
ironic


this is the EXACT reason why i am going to purchase firearms


FEMA camps


There is one fairly close to my location

and i will never ever ever go

and the other reason i want one is to protect myself if they enforce a mandatory swine flu (bullshit flu) vaccine

thats pretty much my only motivation for a gun
Well since both of your reasons for owning a gun are absolutely silly and nonsensical, then you won't be needing one. Feel free to hand it over to me.
 

GanjaAL

Active Member
Of course gun control laws are for law abiding citizens, they are also for criminals. The law applies to everyone. With stiffer sentences being passed for the carrying of a gun, the only people going to prison would be non law abiding citizens.

Protect yourself from what? Invasion? The russians aren't coming to kidnap your children anymore... protection from what?

If guns were banned they wouldn't be so easy to come by. Sure, you could get one if you were enterprising enough as the sale of guns would be pushed deep underground. Which btw also pushes the price up. So, these dickheads that climb through open windows at night will not be able to afford or come by a gun so easily. This statement begs the same question, protection from what?

Also, how do you know the guy was a criminal? did he have a criminal past, or did he have a permit for those guns? I suspect (as is usually the way in cases like this) the latter.
Have you absolutely lost your mind... criminals do not obey laws. They love it when you disarm people because it lessons the chances of them getting shot by someone who has a gun legally.

Also hitler did a great job with gun control....

Paul harvey said it best:

Paul Harvey on Guns
Monday, November 06, 2000
Are you considering backing gun control laws? Do you think that because you may not own a gun, the rights guaranteed by the Second Amendment don't matter?
CONSIDER:
In 1929 the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, approximately 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915-1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, 13 million Jews, gypsies, homosexuals, the mentally ill, and others, who were unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million "educated" people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
That places total victims who lost their lives because of gun control at approximately 56 million in the last century. Since we should learn from the mistakes of history, the next time someone talks in favor of gun control, find out which group of citizens they wish to have exterminated.
It has now been 12 months since gun owners in Australia were forced to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed, a program costing the government more than $500 million dollars. The results Australia-wide; Homicides are up 3.2%; Assaults are up 8%; Armed robberies are up 44%; In that country's state of Victoria, homicides with firearms are up 300%.
Over the previous 25 years, figures show a steady decrease in armed robberies and Australian politicians are on the spot and at a loss to explain how no improvement in "safety" has been observed after such monumental effort and expense was successfully expended in "ridding society of guns."
It's time to state it plainly; Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws only affect the law-abiding citizens.
Take action before it's too late, write or call your representatives.



OPINION: Paul Harvey on Guns
Paul Harvey's comment on Columbine High shootings:
How can we blame it all on guns?
For the life of me, I can't understand what could have gone wrong in Littleton, CO. If only the parents had kept their children away from the guns, we wouldn't have had such a tragedy. Yeah, it must have been the guns.
It couldn't have been because half our children are being raised in broken homes.
It couldn't have been because our children get to spend an average of 30 seconds in meaningful conversation with their parents each day. After all, we give our children quality time.
It couldn't have been because we treat our children as pets and our pets as children.
It couldn't have been because we place our children in day care centers where they learn their socialization skills among their peers under the law of the jungle while employees who have no vested interest in the children look on and make sure that no blood is spilled.
It couldn't have been because we allow our children to watch, on the average, seven hours of television a day filled with the glorification of sex and violence that isn't fit for adult consumption.
It couldn't have been because we allow our children to enter into virtual worlds in which, to win the game, one must kill as many opponents as possible in the most sadistic way possible.
It couldn't have been because we have sterilized and contracepted our families down to sizes so small that the children we do have are so spoiled with material things that they come to equate the receiving of the material with love.
It couldn't have been because our children, who historically have been seen as a blessing from God, are now being viewed as either a mistake created when contraception fails or inconveniences that parents try to raise in their spare time.
It couldn't have been because we give two-year prison sentences to teenagers who kill their newborns.
It couldn't have been because our school systems teach the children that they are nothing but glorified apes who have evolved out of some primordial soup of mud by teaching evolution as fact and by handing out condoms as if they were candy.
It couldn't have been because we teach our children that there are no laws of morality that transcend us, that everything is relative and that actions don't have consequences. What the heck, the president gets away with it.
Nah, it must have been the guns.
Paul Harvey

Only thing that is different today then when the constitution was writen is.... the Government back then was affraid of its people... but now it is the people who are affraid of the government and we will pay for it in the end.


Hey skunkushybrid tell you what... why don't you post your real name and addy and how much money you have on one of those gang forums and see who comes nocking... guaranty they will have guns.
 
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Keenly

Guest
Well since both of your reasons for owning a gun are absolutely silly and nonsensical, then you won't be needing one. Feel free to hand it over to me.
better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it...
 
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