H.r. 5842 & h.r. 5843

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UniversitySmoker06

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sooo... im surprised no one has started talking about this yet... so, whats everyones believes?? obviously we all support the bills, but what do you HONESTLY think will happen, when do you think it will happen, and last, how do you PERSONALLY believe the bills should read for the best possible outcome for THE ENTIRE COUNTRY (including the citizens that do not agree with these.) to profit.

O...and if your "that guy" that has no IDEA what i am trying to talk about, then first off, QUIT GIVING THE REST OF US A BAD NAME!!! second, take five minutes out of your day to google and read about H.R. 5842 and 5843. you will be VERRRY excited i promise...

SO LET THE DISCUSSION BEGIN!!!
 
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UniversitySmoker06

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ViRedd said:
Congressman Barney Frank - Representing the 4th District of Massachusetts

I don't hold out much hope that legalization on the federal level will happen anytime soon. The only way politicians have of gaining power over the people is to pass laws, especially laws against personal behavior. Marijuana laws fall under that category.

Vi
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with already 7 co-sponsors, 5843 is gaining popularity... 5842 already has 14 co-sponsors!!!


OpenCongress - H.R.5843 Act to Remove Federal Penalties for the Personal Use of Marijuana by Responsible Adults
OpenCongress - H.R.5842 Medical Marijuana Patient Protection Act
 
ViRedd

ViRedd

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UniversitySmoker06 said:
with already 7 co-sponsors, 5843 is gaining popularity... 5842 already has 14 co-sponsors!!!


OpenCongress - H.R.5843 Act to Remove Federal Penalties for the Personal Use of Marijuana by Responsible Adults
OpenCongress - H.R.5842 Medical Marijuana Patient Protection Act
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How many pro votes are needed for it to pass? What groups will be lobbying against it? Let's see, every DEA agent and their union, every prison guard and their union, every police chief and their union, every pharmaceutical company, and then, don't forget every do-gooder and busybody in our society will be applying their pressure too.

Again, as sensible as the bill is, and as much as I'm on your side, I don't see much of a chance of it passing.

Vi

 
ZenMaster

ZenMaster

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ViRedd said:
How many pro votes are needed for it to pass? What groups will be lobbying against it? Let's see, every DEA agent and their union, every prison guard and their union, every police chief and their union, every pharmaceutical company, and then, don't forget every do-gooder and busybody in our society will be applying their pressure too.

Again, as sensible as the bill is, and as much as I'm on your side, I don't see much of a chance of it passing.

Vi
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Neither does Barry, but he just wants it to be on the radar. This is the first baby step and hopefully it will accumulate momentum and eventually lead to some sort of reform.
 
ElBarto

ElBarto

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ViRedd said:
How many pro votes are needed for it to pass?
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218. Just like any other bill.

ViRedd said:
What groups will be lobbying against it? Let's see, every DEA agent and their union, every prison guard and their union, every police chief and their union, every pharmaceutical company, and then, don't forget every do-gooder and busybody in our society will be applying their pressure too.
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Let's not forget the (mostly but not exclusively) Republican douche bags so willing to ignore the science for political expediency.

Still, baby steps...
 
ElBarto

ElBarto

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ViRedd said:
How many pro votes are needed for it to pass?
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218. Just like any other bill.

ViRedd said:
What groups will be lobbying against it? Let's see, every DEA agent and their union, every prison guard and their union, every police chief and their union, every pharmaceutical company, and then, don't forget every do-gooder and busybody in our society will be applying their pressure too.
Click to expand...
Let's not forget the (mostly but not exclusively) Republican douche bags so willing to ignore the science for political expediency.

Still, baby steps...
 
ElBarto

ElBarto

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ViRedd said:
How many pro votes are needed for it to pass?
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218. Just like any other bill.

ViRedd said:
What groups will be lobbying against it? Let's see, every DEA agent and their union, every prison guard and their union, every police chief and their union, every pharmaceutical company, and then, don't forget every do-gooder and busybody in our society will be applying their pressure too.
Click to expand...
Let's not forget the (mostly but not exclusively) Republican douche bags so willing to ignore the science for political expediency.

Still, baby steps...
 
ElBarto

ElBarto

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ViRedd said:
How many pro votes are needed for it to pass?
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218. Just like any other bill.

ViRedd said:
What groups will be lobbying against it? Let's see, every DEA agent and their union, every prison guard and their union, every police chief and their union, every pharmaceutical company, and then, don't forget every do-gooder and busybody in our society will be applying their pressure too.
Click to expand...
Let's not forget the (mostly but not exclusively) Republican douche bags so willing to ignore the science for political expediency.

Still, baby steps...
 
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UniversitySmoker06

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yes, Redd, i agree with you... and you didnt even start to think about the cotton, nylon, tobacco, alcohol and all other industries that would lobby against this because you kno if and when this passes, the hemp industry will start boomin... but baby steps are the way to go... and this is the first time in almost the ENTIRE prohibition that a bill has even been recognized... let alone co-sponsored by other members
 
ViRedd

ViRedd

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ElBarto said:
218. Just like any other bill.



Let's not forget the (mostly but not exclusively) Republican douche bags so willing to ignore the science for political expediency.

Still, baby steps...
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Sorry man, but I can't let this go by unanswered. To set the record straight, do a Google search on the escalation of the drug war, and in particular the war against marijuana that took place under the Clinton administration. Check out the increase in the prison population for drug related "crimes" under Clinton.

Vi
 
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