Hail The Leaf's 3rd Grow - Greenhouse Indica H pack and Paradise Whiteberry

HailTheLeaf

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On 6/11/09 I planted 1 Greenhouse White Rhino, 1 Great White Shark, 1 Cheese, 1 Trainwreck, 1 Lemon Skunk, 1 Paradise Whiteberry, 2 seeds I got from my last Whiteberry hermie, a bagseed I had from another hermie in the first grow, and finally, one bag seed I got off a friend.

I'm using my usual organic method with Bioterra mixed with perlite, vermiculite, organic soil, bat guano, (at the bottom) and worm castings.

For Nutes I'm still going with BioCanna and BMO, because so far, my shit is the shit. The smell and taste is amazing with this stuff.

And I've still got my pathetic but competent little 400w digital ballast with shitty reflector, MH for veg and HPS for flowering.


Pics coming when there's anything to show, and feel free to post in here.
 

HailTheLeaf

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Alright, now up with 2nd set of leaves - Greenhouse Lemon Skunk, and Paradise Whiteberry...up with tiny 2nd set of leaves - Greenhouse White Rhino, Great White Shark, Mystery Seed From A Friend...Greenhouse Cheese is up with the first set of leaves just prying open, Whiteberry Hermie Offspring #1 is up and bent over in a ? shape.

Greenhouse Trainwreck, a mystery seed from my stash, and Whiteberry Hermie Offspring #2 have not surfaced yet...and a little surface digging reveals nothing. My last Trainwreck seed never came up, so I'm a bit concerned.

Pics: Greenhouse Cheese, Great White Shark, Lemon Skunk, Mystery Seed From a Friend, Paradise Whiteberry, Whiteberry Hermie #1, White Rhino
 

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HailTheLeaf

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*sigh* Mystery Seed From A Friend shriveled up and died for no apparent reason, and there's still no sign of my Greenhouse Trainwreck or Whiteberry Hermie Offspring #2. I have at least 5 more Whiteberry seeds from my hermie, but the Trainwreck, oi. This will be the 2nd Trainwreck seed that doesn't come up if it doesn't show soon...I still have yet to grow it for this reason and it's getting frustrating...everything else in the H pack comes right up, but not Trainwreck, same shit happened in my last grow.
 

HailTheLeaf

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So...my Attitude order showed up today :) so I planted a Big Buddha Chiesel in place of the Mystery Seed From a Friend...it'll be 6 days behind, but fuck it right? The Whiteberry hermie #2 finally came up, but it's that pale green/yellow kinda sickly color that MSFAF had, so if that doesn't look better by tonight, I'll replace it with a Dynafem freebie or another Chiesel.
 

HailTheLeaf

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Son of a...Trainwreck never came up, didn't sprout at all...I e-mailed Greenhouse about the issue and they said to e-mail Attitude for replacements...so off I go to do that.

I've planted another Chiesel in place of the Trainwreck, we'll see if those come up...gave the girls a little pinch of Biovega this morning.
 

HailTheLeaf

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Ok, Chiesel #2 is up, #1 never came up, so I've replanted another Chiesel. Gave everyone a little bit of Biovega and Rhizotonic today.

Pics! Greenhouse Cheese, Big Buddha Chiesel, Greenhouse Great White Shark, Greenhouse Lemon Skunk, My Mystery Seed, Paradise Whiteberry, Whiteberry Hermie #1, WB Hermie #2, and Greenhouse White Rhino. As you can see the Paradise Whiteberry and Whiteberry hermie #2 have a bit of leaf warp going on...I think White Rhino does too..what's up with that?
 

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HailTheLeaf

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Ok, I'm doing a major upgrade do to heat and space issues, this will be piece by piece and take some time since it's alotta $$$. So far in the past few days I've acquired the following: A Large (2'x4') Sunhut, 5 more 2 1/2gal square pots, a bag of BioTerra, a 1 liter of Rhizotonic, and a 1 liter of Cannazym. In the future I plan to acquire an Medium Adjust-A-Wing, or a cooled reflector and go up to a 600w Galaxy or Quantum digital ballast. Still having heat issues in the new tent with a 12" fan pulling air in at the bottom flange opening and a 6" fan blowing air out of a flange opening on top...a corner of the front door is also being left open to reduce heat, and I'm still just under 90 degrees...slightly cooler than the closet. I think I need another fan.

The last Chiesel I planted is up and going...*whew* 2 out of 3 there...

Now that I've got room for 15, I've added 5 more to the grow today: A seed that fell out of my Blue Cheese jar, (so hopefully a Big Buddha Blue Cheese hermie seed), 1 Dinafem Blue Hash, 1 Dinafem California Hash, 1 Cheese, and my last Trainwreck...I have yet to get a single Trainwreck to sprout, so we'll see. All the newbies are in the back row, they'll be 13 days behind the rest, but should be up in a few days. Middle row: Greenhouse Lemon Skunk, Chiesel #1, Chiesel #2, Greenhouse Cheese #1, Paradise Whiteberry, Whiteberry hermie seed #1. Front row: Mystery Seed, Great White Shark, White Rhino, Whiteberry hermie seed #2.
 

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HailTheLeaf

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Gave the girls that are up some Rhizotonic and some Biovega...the Paradise Whiteberry is the biggest by far.
 

HailTheLeaf

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The Dinafem California Hash popped up this morning, and the Blue Hash came up shortly thereafter...no sign of Blue Cheese, Cheese, or Trainwreck yet...gave the girls some Super Plant Tonic, and Rhizotonic today. Temp in the room is still above 80 degrees...damnit.
 

HailTheLeaf

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A bloody miracle happened overnight as for the first time, there's a Trainwreck sprout in my grow. This makes my Trainwreck germination rate 1-3 now. The 2nd Cheese has also appeared...still waiting for Blue Cheese to show.
 

warisnottheanswer

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lookin good my dude! im growin some trainwreck & kings kush right now (amongst other things:bigjoint:). i was thinkin about tryin the biocanna line of soil and nutes ill be ridin wit u!
 

HailTheLeaf

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Thanks bro...I'm really digging the BioCanna line right now, makes everything smell and taste great.

Pics! Grow tent, (left to right starting on 2nd row...Greenhouse Lemon Skunk, 2nd Big Buddha Chiesel, Big Buddha Chiesel, Greenhouse Cheese, Paradise Whiteberry, Whiteberry hermie seed #1, Mystery Seed, Greenhouse Great White Shark, Greenhouse White Rhino, Whiteberry Hermie #2.

Greenhouse Trainwreck, Dinafem California Hash, 2nd Greenhouse Cheese, Dinafem Blue Hash
 

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geekin69

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Lookin great so far man. dont be too bummed about the trainwreck, mine didnt sprout either.. my cheese also dropped dead when it was a wee young seedling. my lemon skunk is now a week into flowering and looking amazing. im still sittin on the great white shark and white rhino for the next go round. i was also looking at chiesel for my next grow. im liking your choices of strains...
 

HailTheLeaf

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Trainwreck is the most frustrating strain that I've ever dealt with...I couldn't even get them to poke out of the soil before today. That sucks about your Cheese, I like Cheese so much I'm ordering a 5 pack next time. It'll be my one "fun" strain since I'm growing for medical use, and it doesn't do much for me in that area, but the smell and taste are just amazing. Lemon Skunk smells great and makes me sleepy.

I just dug up the Blue Cheese hermie seed and it hasn't even sprouted yet....arrgh. I soaked it in water and Rhizotonic and put it back into the soil and watered it a bit...it's getting 24 hours to open before I have to try something else.

I've noticed that Mystery Seed bears little resemblance to marijuana, and looks like Catnip, this makes it an excellent candidate for transplant into the garden outside...it has only single serrated leaves.
 

warisnottheanswer

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yea when i grew the wreck the first time i was mad i burned a couple pretty bad but NOW its way different! it looks more like the cali cut! i would give wreck another shot. i want to get some cheese i just dont know which is the best and closest to the original greenhouse,big buddha or homegrown fantaseeds:confused: lol

Trainwreck is the most frustrating strain that I've ever dealt with...I couldn't even get them to poke out of the soil before today. That sucks about your Cheese, I like Cheese so much I'm ordering a 5 pack next time. It'll be my one "fun" strain since I'm growing for medical use, and it doesn't do much for me in that area, but the smell and taste are just amazing. Lemon Skunk smells great and makes me sleepy.
 

HailTheLeaf

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I'm not sure which is the original...and I haven't tried the BB Cheese...just Blue Cheese, and it's great.

My Mystery Seed has been transplanted to an undisclosed location outdoors and is currently enjoying the natural benefits of the solar system. A seed that fell out of my White Rhino jar has been planted in it's place.

Apparently my Whiteberry wasn't the only one that hermied in my last grow, I've had seeds fall out of my White Rhino, Blue Cheese and GWS also. Only about 2-3 each, but still strange. The Whiteberry jar has yielded over 10 seeds so far.
 

HailTheLeaf

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The Blue Cheese hermie seed never sprouted, so I've replaced it with another, (I've found 4 so far). Waiting for the White Rhino hermie seed to pop up. Everyone else seems to be doing well, Paradise Whiteberry is still way in the lead size-wise, much bigger than even it's hermie-spawned sisters.
 

HailTheLeaf

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Gave all the girls a nice dose of Biovega, Rhizotonic, and Cannazym. No sign of the 2nd White Rhino or the Blue Cheese yet. Everyone is still looking healthy, room temp is down to a bit over 80 degrees today.
 

HailTheLeaf

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I dug up the Blue Cheese seed and it's sprouted, so I pointed it in the right direction and recovered it. The White Rhino wasn't exactly close to the center of the pot so I transplanted it more into the middle...it's not looking too happy with me right now.

Pics! Dinafem California Haze, Greenhouse Cheese, 2nd Cheese, Big Buddha Chiesel, 2nd Chiesel, Greenhouse Great White Shark,
Greenhouse Lemon Skunk, Greenhouse Trainwreck, Paradise Whiteberry, Whiteberry hermie #1, Whiteberry hermie #2, Greenhouse White Rhino...the lighting is shitty on the little ones, and apparently I forgot to photograph Blue Haze, so next time...
 

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HailTheLeaf

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Blue Cheese is up...no White Rhino #2, just found an empty open shell...had to replant. *sigh*

Gave the girls some Biovega, Rhizotonic and Cannazym today.
 
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