Not at all unfair Rick, and believe it or not I actually agree w/ you.
Again, my point was that you seemed to be complaining about the work ethic that you get w/ a $10 an hour employee. That is all.
It strikes me as kinda funny that most of the posters here are jumping on my back for something I NEVER said.
I NEVER said that it unfair to pay someone $10 an hour, not once. I DID say that if you're going to pay someone at that rate you shouldn't expect "employee of the month" types.
Rick thanks for keeping it a civil adult conversation. If we ALL did that more often I think that we'd probably see that we all are closer in thoughts than we think we are.
I never complained at all - you missed the point. I know perfectly well that I will get what I pay for - that was my point.
My point, was that if a man in his peak earning years is applying for a $10 per hour job, it is probably because he is a fuck up with a poor work ethic and not because life has never afforded him better opportunities.
Now, there are people who have really been unfairly oppressed by life and just need a chance. Think of a 20 year old kid who does 20 years for a false murder charge. Or, even a person such as myself why was systematically denied an education.
The very worst cases are the people who are destroyed by bad parenting. Often, the most critical tool for success, their brain, has been damaged in such a way that they lack the tools to be successful. We see these people every day. many of the people here probably are such people and will never know it.
We have all met those guys who always act like a hard ass everywhere they go and can never seem to get along with others. Well, that comes from child abuse. And that person completely lacks self awareness which is far too painful. So, they act out and become delinquent teens, wind up in trouble with the law and their life just spirals downward. Of course as adults, they become complete ass holes. Much of the time they are proud of their criminal records etc. The same thing happens in the ghetto where young kids grow to become the product of their environment.
See, personal character is learned. Kids grow up to emulate their role models. If dad was a diplomatic, charismatic, professional gentleman that is what his kid is going to become. If dad was a drunken redneck or a prison thug that too is what his kid will become. And this is not something our schools can teach. For this, we would need full time boarding schools beginning at a young age.
The answer to all of our problems is the spread of traditional values. It is my wish that there was some way we could create a virus that spread these values and let it affect everyone. If we could do this, our problems would be solved.
