Hanging Gardens - Floating 1200W Stealth Cab Under Kingsize Bunk-bed

Buschmasta420

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Had a look in your thread, done a decent job for sure! It works man, thats all that matters, long as the job gets done! Looking forward to seeing the finished product of the cab and stuff. OSB should be fine for the walls, and moisture resistant paint sound fine, just make sure its not gloss! I've never painted anything but i seem to remember people saying it should be painted matt not gloss, i could be wrong.

Anyway, ventilation. IF sound is an issue, in my opinion a silencer is one of the most effective things you can use. I have tested both flexible ones and solid ones in the past and found the solid ones are a FAR superior silencer. I also tested an 8" airforce fan (high air movement) with a silencer on both ends, and i could hardly hear a thing, i had to put my ear on the fan to check it was running. That being said they can take up a decent amount of space. If you got the space, get silencers and acoustic ducting and box it all up once its in place. With acoustic ducting, you have to make sure both ends of the ducting are sealed.... i.e. you must fasted or tape the inner sleeve and the outer sleeve, and it must be SEALED. Otherwise air and smells will escape, more of a problem if you don't use a filter like some....

The other thing you should do is get a fan speed controller. I've stated in a post above somewhere what controller i'm using and why. But yeh, a controller can make a big difference with noise. I always like to over spec my fans, and then run them on 50% or something. It makes for a much quieter set up depending on the fans used. I'm using 2 acoustic fans so it works well. Things to think about..

Check my post about my fans and fan speed controllers..
Thanks for the tips. I just got a vortex s-line 600 and without a duct or filter it is pretty silent in that you cannot hear the motor running. However it can be heard by the sound of fast moving air. I got a van-tech speed controller for it and it works well. I plan on getting some insulated ducting however I have never bought it before and am unsure of the increments it can be purchased in. I only need a little because of the small size of the box so hopefully not too much. I'm just waiting for a little more cash flow to come through and then I will buy a filter, some ducting, a 400w hps and maybe a jigsaw to cut the holes for the fan and ducting. Anyway, cant wait to see your setup in action and I can assure you will see mine at work soon as well.
 

only1realhigh

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Flat white is the most reflective of standard paints. Did you put up a few smoke detector's ? safety is first always.
 

lilindian

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Thanks for the tips. I just got a vortex s-line 600 and without a duct or filter it is pretty silent in that you cannot hear the motor running. However it can be heard by the sound of fast moving air. I got a van-tech speed controller for it and it works well. I plan on getting some insulated ducting however I have never bought it before and am unsure of the increments it can be purchased in. I only need a little because of the small size of the box so hopefully not too much. I'm just waiting for a little more cash flow to come through and then I will buy a filter, some ducting, a 400w hps and maybe a jigsaw to cut the holes for the fan and ducting. Anyway, cant wait to see your setup in action and I can assure you will see mine at work soon as well.
When you stick some ducting on the fans, and close one end off with a filter, the noise of the air flow will be reduced a lot. The noise of airflow can be handled by snaking the ducting temporarily to slow the air down, while you get your filter and acoustic ducting. Normally comes in 5m and 10m lengths, some places do 2m. Use a drill and cut loads of little holes along the cut out line for the ducting, and save the money you'd spend on a jigsaw. More work but you can put that money into something else where you don't have "options".

well done....
.... Thanks man....

Flat white is the most reflective of standard paints. Did you put up a few smoke detector's ? safety is first always.
Thanks for the confirmation. Safety first indeed, the reflective material is flame proof (doesn't catch alight, just shrivels up), and i have a fire angel heat detector next to the cab, free from the local fire department!
 

lilindian

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Finished product (nearly)
  • Mirror has been attached to the door.
  • The other door has been painted.
  • Rail has been added along the top of the ladder.
  • 4" caster wheels have been fixed to the bottom of the ladder.
  • By pulling the ladder all the way to the right i can now fully open both doors, no more lifting the ladder and moving it out the way, it can be moved with 1 finger.

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  • The ladders steps were half cut. This is because of the angel of the ladder, sometimes it makes it difficult going up and down. My way around this used to be coming down sideways and side stepping. Now with the steps cut like this i can go up and down normally facing forward, it works a lot better and looks nicer!
 

lilindian

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PLANTS


So, anyone who followed my previous grow knows that i'm a BIG fan of Sannies Seeds, and have pretty much exclusively grown Sannies strains in the past throughout my growing career.


This grow, is no exception. All the strains i run have either been purchased directly from Sannies website, or have been sent along with an order as freebee's.

For this run, i have not had the luxury of picking which strains to go with. Instead, i have peered into my mother cabinet, and taken cuttings off whatever was inside. It should be noted that the plants in my mother cabinet had been slightly neglected. For this reason they were not in the greatest of health, and thripes were running rampant. I took as many cuts as i could, and waited to see how many would root. The mothers and cuttings were sitting under T5's.


A few weeks down the line and i have potted up the first 18 cuttings to root. This compromised of the following:


x10 Cheeseberry Haze (From Regular Seeds) - Sannies

x1 Santa Maria x Blueberry (Freebee Regular Seeds)

x2 Katsu Kush x Killing Fields (Freebee Regular Seeds)

x5 Kollosus (Feminized Seeds) - Sannies


Now, before i continue, it's important for me to describe the genetics of each.


Cheeseberry Haze - this plant loves to grow HUGE, big inter nodal spacing, big hazey foxytaily buds. Even in veg this plant stretches out and grows pretty big, therefore to veg a Cheeseberry Haze out properly, it must be trained.


Santa Maria x Blueberry - This plant, is probably the best in my current pool of genetics. It's growth is STRONG and FAST, its structure is almost perfect, open, but compact, it loves to be trained, topped, LST'd, super cropped, you name it. Always bounces back strong no matter what you do to her. Very very good yielder and its smoke has people fighting over it. Delicious taste (strong blueberry influence), SUPER STRONG sativa high, puts you in a real good mood for no apparent reason....


Katsu Kush x Killing Fields - This strain has the most insane kush smell factor, only second to Mad Kush by Sannie. A true deep down kush smell, with a very very powerful hard hitting stone.... this plant likes to stretch its limbs, on a par with the Cheeseberry Haze, node spacing probably greater. Similarly, to get the most of of this plant, one must train its branches and open her out, to help her grow outwards instead of straight up as she would untrained. The smell factor of this strain is off the charts, i cannot seem to contain it. In fact anyone who's had some has struggled to lock up the smell, it just has to fill the room/house.


Kollosus - This strain i ran last time, but the plant was very neglected. Therefore i do not have an accurate smoke report of it yet. However, she's a real nice plant structure wise, nice and bushy, relatively fast growing, clones real easy. This was labeled on Sannies website as a commercial strain, with A+++ quality nugs. Although i haven't tasted her properly yet, she filled up my space REAL nice, with a lot of nice sized nugs. Basically if she smoked like she produced, i'd be on to a winner. Time will tell with this one...


As for this grow i would be running a variety of different genetics, it was even more important that usual that i train the plants to maintain a uniform canopy. In the past i have tried many many different ways to train my plants. I have used K'nex to make screens, used fence netting as a screen, chicken wire, lock-able yo-yo's, and elastic netting. I found each method had its pro's and con's.


I found it absolutely essential that should i need to, i could remove a plant from my grow area, to attend to it, treat it if need be, or to harvest it if it finished early and the rest were still going. Using a net, as such, does not allow any plant mobility, as once the branches grow through the netting, that is where they will stay. For this reason i decided to invest in something new this time round, circular plant support trellis. In my head, these were the perfect solution to my problem. I could train each plant individually and open them up nicely, remove any plant i wanted from my growing environment if need be, and re-use the support whenever wherever i wanted.
  • The haze's were vegged for the first couple weeks under a 400W metal halide, whilst the rest were sitting under a 400W HPS. After around 2 weeks both bulbs were Metal halides.

  • I did not use any circulating air fans for the whole of Veg and the first week of flowering. At this point the canopy had grown so dense that below and above canopy temperatures differed drastically.

  • I could also not turn the lights up to 600W without better air circulation, so added 2 8" magnetic motor fans.

  • With the fans added, i turned up the wattage of the ballasts to 600W each and the fans kept at 50%. Temperatures sitting at 27C.

  • Plants were supercropped in veg to control their growth and help bush out the plants.
ANYWAY - no more waffle... pictures in order of age

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lilindian

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- End Of Week 3 Flower -
  • Plants were allowed to stretch up, and all growth below the line where they were initially tied to the trellising at the beginning of flowering was removed. This was to improve air circulation from bottom to top, remove dead or deficient growth, and redirect the plants energy to where it matters.

  • As you can see the left side of the cabinet with all the haze's and the 2 kush plants has stretched a lot more than the other side. The Kush's have by far stretched the most and drink the most. 6L pots, most the plants i water every 2-3 days, the Kush's are every other day... thirsty girls. They are kept at the front so i can keep an eye on them.

  • Most plants are in perfect health, i'm trying to keep the reflectors as close the the canopies as possible. The tallest plant on the left, the top of the bud is neeeaarly level with the bottom of the bulb.... i'm trying not to raise the reflectors until i see problems... trying to achieve developed growth all the way down. Raised them a little to take pics.

    Smells real nice in here now​
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lilindian

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- End Of Week 4 Flower -
  • So, we are at the end of Week 4 Flower... All but one plant seems to be doing fine. The one plant in question is a Cheeseberry Haze. Although she looks healthy, she seems to be suffering from a Nitrogen overdose. This has come from the Calmag supplement i've been feeding the plants at the beginning of flowering. Most if not all the Calmag available to me is Calcium and Magnesium bonded with Nitrogen in the form of Nitrates (calcium and magnesium nitrates). Therefore i can't feed the Calcium and Magnesium without adding Nitrogen to the soil. The only way around this would be to use Mono-elements, however i rarely have a problem with nitrogen overdoses, so haven't bothered going down this route yet. The overdosing of nitrogen can delay flowering, and thats pretty much exactly whats happened. The Plant is a dark dark green, and the flower development is now what looks to be at least a week if not more behind the others. A flush would be the best course of action for this one plant, but i'm against flushing out all the goodness in the soil. I plan to keep feeding water, until she starts to take off again. She isn't burning, growth isn't completely stunted, and she will recover. All in good time....
  • Anyway, the reflectors weren't raised this week when taking the pictures, so you can see exactly how low i am keeping them. As a result of this the pictures aren't amazing this week, but next week should be a good post.... I will remove all the plants, clean them up of any dead leaves, maybe do a little pruning to increase light penetration... and feed them a tea which i shall be brewing over the course of this week.

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lilindian

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Quick note: Over fertilising with Nitrogen will not only delay flowering but will also increase the plants stretch, almost as if the delay in flowering is because the plant wants to stretch for another week or so. Anyway this can be seen in the pictures. The two plants that are over ferted in N are the two tallest plants on the left grid (the only two sticking up over the trellising, one at the front, one at the back). Look carefully you can also see the under development of the flowers in comparison to the other plants around them.
 
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