Hanks First set-up

Hank's Hooter

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I have had great luck with clones rooting so far. As long as some of these root, I wont be sad if those sativas dont make it.
 
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Some of these seedlings are coming up nice. I have never done it, but when they get big enough to top, I will root the tops and put them into flower to determine the sex as early as possable. This summer I took care of a shit load of outdoor plants that ended up going male on me. I have since vowed to never do that again.
 
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None of the Sative clones made it. Trashed them last night. The two plants are looking pretty bleak too. Will trash them any day now.
 
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I plan on building the control panel for the hydro system today. It's going to look more complicated than the store bought ebb and grow, but I got lots of free control stuff from my electrician buddy.
 
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Used fish emulsion today for first time on the ladyies that are in their final month of flowering. Pretty stinky shit! Almost covers up the weed smell! LOL


 
milowerx96

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Right on dude! Nice first set up. I will also be going with the ebb and grow type system next time around. My system has performed for years but it is a little on the complicated side. I will set it up outside this spring for veggies. You are going to love hydro. It's so much faster than dirt and you get a lot less bug activity. There are a few things you might want to know about the Ebb and Grow type systems. When they drain they leave about 1.5" of nutes in the bottom bucket. This standing nute will eventually start rotting roots that make it to the bottom bucket. To fix this all you need to do is run an air hose through the top bucket so the hose extends from the bottom of the inner bucket about an inch. Put a small air stone on the end and a flow back on the other end so you have a place to disconnect it if you need to move plant around for better light or if you are on a perpetual harvest type system. You might want to get another barrel and connect it to the rez with a couple of hull fittings because if you are going to run 5 gallon buckets you are going to use a lot of nutes. You will fill each bucket with 4 or so gallons of water during flood stage. I like to have at least 30% left in my rez at the end of my flood cycle as to prevent running a pump dry. It also makes for a more stable res. The larger the res the longer it takes to make large movements in TDS count or pH. Make sure to get a particle pen and pH meter. I can not state just how important those items are.It can be the difference between a wonder crop and a wilted pile of yellow shit. On the 5 gallon bucket thought ,plants in hydro don't require nearly the root space that plants in soil do. Even when the roots get relatively bound by soil standards they are fine in hydro because they are constantly being bathed in nutes. You might want to consider going to a 3 gallon set up. If you shove those lights in cool tubes you can get them right down on top of your plants. Remember every foot you move away from the bulb your lumens are cut in half 100, 50, 25, 12.5, 6.25 and so on. You have a really nice room, Way better than mine right now; and I have been doing this for a while. Most of my gear is just sitting idle. It sucks! If I had that room I would put 2 ebb and grows up, Split the room about 60/40. Get some cooltubes and put a CO2 system in the flower room. Then all you do is feed clones into one end of your system every week or two and advance the previous plants through the system till they come out the other end. Then you are harvesting every week!! The Ebb and Grow system is perfect for this perpetual harvest method because of the removable inner pots. This post went on a bit longer than I planned. And you really have a shit ton of potential with that room. Good luck.
 
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milowerx96 said:
Right on dude! Nice first set up. I will also be going with the ebb and grow type system next time around. My system has performed for years but it is a little on the complicated side. I will set it up outside this spring for veggies. You are going to love hydro. It's so much faster than dirt and you get a lot less bug activity. There are a few things you might want to know about the Ebb and Grow type systems. When they drain they leave about 1.5" of nutes in the bottom bucket. This standing nute will eventually start rotting roots that make it to the bottom bucket. To fix this all you need to do is run an air hose through the top bucket so the hose extends from the bottom of the inner bucket about an inch. Put a small air stone on the end and a flow back on the other end so you have a place to disconnect it if you need to move plant around for better light or if you are on a perpetual harvest type system. You might want to get another barrel and connect it to the rez with a couple of hull fittings because if you are going to run 5 gallon buckets you are going to use a lot of nutes. You will fill each bucket with 4 or so gallons of water during flood stage. I like to have at least 30% left in my rez at the end of my flood cycle as to prevent running a pump dry. It also makes for a more stable res. The larger the res the longer it takes to make large movements in TDS count or pH. Make sure to get a particle pen and pH meter. I can not state just how important those items are.It can be the difference between a wonder crop and a wilted pile of yellow shit. On the 5 gallon bucket thought ,plants in hydro don't require nearly the root space that plants in soil do. Even when the roots get relatively bound by soil standards they are fine in hydro because they are constantly being bathed in nutes. You might want to consider going to a 3 gallon set up. If you shove those lights in cool tubes you can get them right down on top of your plants. Remember every foot you move away from the bulb your lumens are cut in half 100, 50, 25, 12.5, 6.25 and so on. You have a really nice room, Way better than mine right now; and I have been doing this for a while. Most of my gear is just sitting idle. It sucks! If I had that room I would put 2 ebb and grows up, Split the room about 60/40. Get some cooltubes and put a CO2 system in the flower room. Then all you do is feed clones into one end of your system every week or two and advance the previous plants through the system till they come out the other end. Then you are harvesting every week!! The Ebb and Grow system is perfect for this perpetual harvest method because of the removable inner pots. This post went on a bit longer than I planned. And you really have a shit ton of potential with that room. Good luck.
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All good shit! Thanks! I will change some plans based on your advice. I have aquired four 55 gal drums. I will do two set-ups. One in the veg room, and one in the flower room. I will use two 55 gal drums for the resevior on each system. Then I will cycle buckets through the system, room to room. One reason for the five gallon buckets is because I got them for free. I was thinking that having some water in the bottom of the bucket would be good. I was reading about hempy buckets, and they have standing water in the bottom. Wouldn't it be okay if it is cycled and flushed every four hours? Put a nice airstone in the brain bucket? I realize now the with air cooled hoods, I could double my lumens. Had I thought about it that way before ordering, I would have gone with enclosed hoods. I would like to grow the plants larger than most because of legal restrictions on plant count.
 
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These are from seed. I am topping them and rooting the clipping. If they root, I will be flowering them to early sex the plants.



 
milowerx96

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As long as your dirt is bug free you should be fine. I personally would get rid of the dirt as soon as possible but I have a nasty dirt potted plant in my room right now to. As far as the standing water in the bottom of the buckets you might not have the damping off if you cycle rapidly but at about $1 a pot to put an air stone in you cant go wrong. You can never have to much oxygen in you root zone! Well you probably can but not by simple aeration. The added oxygen help keep down harmful bacterias that can form in your root zone. So just keep an eye out for damp off. What kind of medium are you going to be growing in. I personally prefer hydroton. It is inert, holds moisture and allows drainage. Make sure you wash the shit out of it because if you don't you will have res sediment all thew out your system.. I have been thinking of using sure to grow but I need a little more info on it before I give it a shot. I am jealous of t he space you have! Mt new house fell through till January. Most of My shit is sitting in storage. It sucks!!!!!!!!
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I subscribed. I am interested to see the next evolution of your room. Mine is always evolving thus the huge ass pile of old gear in my garage. I tried to give a friend some of it. Enough to put together a 2000 watt room and he said he would just get new gear. He still doesn't have a grow room and I think he is to embarrassed to ask to use my old gear.
 
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I def. wont be ditching dirt anytime soon. My grow consultant wants to see me ending in like 30 gal pots with 2 1000w lights per plant! They told me I should just ditch the crappy little things in my flowering room so that I can focus on the task ahead. All those plants are my first babies. A big learning experience. I could never kill them! But I do get excited hearing them talking about the wasted potential in these plants. They say I should be able to pull 2 LB a plant easy. I am still on the fence as to which will be the most productive way to grow mathmatically. But for that I need more data. In a years time I will have drawn my own conclusions and found out what works best for my space.
The hydro I am trying on a whim. All my friends go hydro and think I am stupid to go dirt. I just prefer to be 100% organic; not to mention soil is very forgiving. I likr to tinker though, so don't be surprised if I end up with a completely automated self watering system that only needs my time once or twice a week. Unfortunately I work a lot so the grow op takes it out of me. I finally managed to paint the two walls closest to the plants in each room white. What a gigantic difference!! Those pics of closeup bud I posted look very orangy. That was from the color of the walls more than the bulbs. It is much brighter and lighter in there now.
 
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I run oranic hydro. The growth rates you get are awsome! Dirt is not as forgiving as one might think. If you have a problem with your dirt it takes a long time to fix.

Hank's Hooter said:
I def. wont be ditching dirt anytime soon. My grow consultant wants to see me ending in like 30 gal pots with 2 1000w lights per plant! They told me I should just ditch the crappy little things in my flowering room so that I can focus on the task ahead. All those plants are my first babies. A big learning experience. I could never kill them! But I do get excited hearing them talking about the wasted potential in these plants. They say I should be able to pull 2 LB a plant easy. I am still on the fence as to which will be the most productive way to grow mathmatically. But for that I need more data. In a years time I will have drawn my own conclusions and found out what works best for my space.
The hydro I am trying on a whim. All my friends go hydro and think I am stupid to go dirt. I just prefer to be 100% organic; not to mention soil is very forgiving. I likr to tinker though, so don't be surprised if I end up with a completely automated self watering system that only needs my time once or twice a week. Unfortunately I work a lot so the grow op takes it out of me. I finally managed to paint the two walls closest to the plants in each room white. What a gigantic difference!! Those pics of closeup bud I posted look very orangy. That was from the color of the walls more than the bulbs. It is much brighter and lighter in there now.
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Missed Fedex yesterday. got home early today and there is no attempted delivery tag. hopefully I will catch them so i can get my hydro system up and flushing.
 
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