HARD TO FIND SEEDS!?/wanted seeds

good look bra

The reason plants are clone only is most likely because when doing the breeding, it was a special pheno that only showed up in the one plant, and they could not get the genes to pass down to the next generation. Some times you will get a freaky pheno that is only 1 in a million, and to get that same pheno again is near impossible. That is why you should always grow as many seeds as possible when starting from seed to make sure you get the best pheno possible.

Even if you took this special pheno and bred it with a male of the same strain, you will not end up with the same plant as the original. Now you can back cross it and end up with an almost pure strain, but it will never be the original. Take "Cheese" for instance. It was clone only, then it was back crossed and now is available in seed form. It will be good bud, but not the same as the original clone because it is not pure "Cheese".

Hopefully this cleared things up for you.

oh I know about most of your statement I just didnt feel like typing all of that.
But after a while of continuous clones the genetics get more dormant unlike seed right?

mane2008 said:

oh I know about most of your statement I just didnt feel like typing all of that.
But after a while of continuous clones the genetics get more dormant unlike seed right?

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So you tell the guy that people are just keeping the strains from him to make them more exclusive even though it is totally wrong? That is kind of messed up.

What do you mean about clones genetics getting dormant??

I still think that in my mind though, I know its not the total reason of that.

After continuous cloning from clone to clone the genetics start to become dormant.

Thats not the reason? If its not the reason why are so many companies coming out with back crosses now of formerly clone only strains? There is a market for them, and that void is being filled. It just takes a long time to stabalize a strain and make them some what consistent.

By genetics becoming dormant, do you mean that the weed is not as good? If this were true, all the clone only strains would be crap because they have been cloned so many generations. But this is not the case at all. Trainwreck is still an awesome strain after all theses years, and what about the G-13.

no not good its being said that the phenoes get weaker after so much cloning, might be wrong heard this alot tho.
none said the bud was going to no good tho

There are no differences in phenos when you clone. All of the plants are the same pheno and genotypes. They will not lose their genetics over time, this is just a big myth. As long as the plants are healthy, you will have awesome plants 20yrs later.

If you didn't mean the bud would be no good, what do you mean by gentics going dormant? I just don't get it.

like the phenoes would be diff and some genetics would go dormant and not be as dominant as they were from say clone 5

You will not end up with any different phenos from clones of the same mother, it just wont happen. They have the same genetic make up and this wont change.

Now buds of the same strain grown in a different environments will turn out different, but the genes will never change. It will only change as much as the environment will let it.