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Xorv

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new to fourms. i need to decarb my weed and then going to put it in nutella mixed with coconut oil (i was using peanut before) firecracker. I was wondering for the decarboxylation process I use a porcelain bowl and spread the weed flat on the surface of the bowl which is about 2.5 grams then cover it as tight as possible with tin foil. I was wondering if this is good enough and what is the appearance of decarb weed? is it that of vaped weed? also i use a small convection oven and the weed is real sticky and takes awhile too decarb. I was thinking 250f for 1 hour? maybe 200f instead?

however i was thinking of just buying the smallest crock pot and making coconut oil infused as being my most probable chance of extracting as much thc for eating. My question is what temp and time is necessary for this with decarb weed vs not decarb weed, and is even using non decarb weed feasible? and what is the minimum oil to weed ratio needed? i wasted about 20g of weed on some failed oil process involving a stove at lowest and a metal pot and leaving the weed in for too long :( anyways ty for response. also, just wondering if anyone knows the price of a small crock pot at walmart?
 

gioua

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to decarb weed alone.. meaning not in oil

decarb the buds in a foil pouch at 225 for 10-15 mins.. depending on how fresh it is.. I generally use 225 at 12 mins..

once the bud is done.. take the pouch outta the oven let cool for 5 mins then open.. you will notice the smell has changed.. kinda nutty smelling and very easy to crumble into dust



if your using oil add bud add oil cook for 3-24 hours.. (I have never noticed a stronger or more potent oil after 3 hours) so I dont go for 24..

4 qt crockpot runs less then 20$ most places.. and will have 3 temp settings.. low med and high.. I use the high setting.
 

Xorv

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the bud turns to powder do i still decarb? can i use a porcelain bowl spread 2-3 g flat in bowl cover with foil and put in for 215f for 20 mins? also ive been using the same bowl afterwards to infuse it with coconut oil at the same temp for 3 hours(with tin foil), the mixture comes out green and the weed is black. was pretty strong first two times, but 3rd time was not as strong, could this be due to tolerance since i did first 3 doses in a span of 36 hours? or was it because i should cut the time in half (90 mins at 215f when initially was doing 3 hrs at 215f) or maybe lower temp to 180f for 5 hrs or something? I'm just pretty sure mostly black bud is bad.
 

gioua

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if your MJ is being used in oil.. there is no reason to decarb before making oil... and yes on the porcelain bowl your good as long as it's covered.. decarbing is to remove the THC(a) acid to become THC and it rases the CNB/CBD levels too..
 

Xorv

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ohh that's great. i was getting reports from different websites saying I have to decarb, even if the bud turns to powder and im making coconut oil. But next time i'll skip decarbing and cook the oil at 200f for 2hrs maybe 3.
 

gioua

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FWIW..

I will decarb the MJ if I am making small amounts of oil.. if I make less then a cup..

decarb.. add to oil.. bake in a pyrex pan for 45 mins.. then strain..I have not noticed the difference so.. you may want to try it..
 

Xorv

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so i did the single serving cannaoil recipe 4 times in a row (i know i could of done a large amount at once, but since im still learning different temps and times i dont want to waste so much so fast) using non-organic coconut oil (louana brand) first 2 times worked but last 2 not as strong, could this be due to tolerance? I also did not agitate the mixture during the process, but it worked the first two times so idk. I'm also guessing if I'd of bought the organic coconut oil the potency would go up, but does anyone know by how much? would it be noticeable? ty.

also, i thought when weed was already dry as heck then decarbing was not necessary? I mean i touch the bud and it feels like if i press any harder i am gonna start making flakes.

why would decarbing a single serving vs a non-single serving make a difference? is it because the single serving does not have as much thc so it'll be more potent by better utilizing whats available?

and a final question, the appearance of weed in coconut oil when the process is done, I mean is the weed suppose to be mostly black? can it be black or does that mean i left in for too long and/or too high?
 

gioua

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@Xorv..

tolerance can be a large factor.. were all going to act differently on MJ
I doubt you would noticed organic etc..

decarbing is only needed when you do not have the time to raise the MJ temps in something slow and low (oil or butter) otherwise when it's in oil it will slowly decarb pre decarbing is not needed IMO for more then a 2 hour cook..

I would say a long cook time will give you DARK very DARK fluid.. all depends on what you used to make the oil with.. doubt you got the oil too hot..
 

Xorv

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thanks for your responses, one of the few who do :(

anyways i bought virgin coconut compared to the refined brand that doesn't even smell like coconut. But now I have another question involving soy lecithin. this emulsifier is suppose to keep it all together, but does it increase potency? I would imagine so, also where would i find it? I tried GNC and they only had caps and granules , can i use the granules and how? do I add it to the coconut oil when mixing it with the bud before putting it in the oven? could I also substitute the lecithin with something else? ty
 

gioua

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IMO and I have been testing and using for only myself since 2011...

I tried the lecithin, canna caps with hash or mj, various edibles cookies brownies.. etc.. the thing that works best for me is the peanut butter I make.. it's quick.. cheap.. I have never noticed the difference with all the other ways to ingest medibles.. with the exception of the time it took to make all the other stuff..

what works for me may/may not work on you.. sadly the only real answer to give with most of the questions asked about medible reactions and various production methods is you will have to see what works best for you..

I was determined to use coconut oil for a few reasons.. but the end game effects were no different then the peanut butter.. I still goof around and make other edibles but I dont make oil much anymore.. I just find a recipe that uses oil.. decarb my MJ add ingredients and bake..

I found lecithin at a local health/vitamin shop I used about 4 oz of a 24 oz jar.. also found the citric acid.. which is another decarb process.. and that didnt do anything..

not sure about the granules or not? I would assume so as well.. the oil should melt it. from what I recall I added it towards the end of the process..
 

Xorv

New Member
thanks for response everybody

so I know what I've been doing wrong, my bud is not decarbed right! I've read it's suppose to be the consistency of flour when adding to oil and I've been using it with the consistency of weed, it breaks up real dry, but not as dry as a dirt rock - even though its close.

so if someone could help me out in pointing out my flaws in these steps for making canno oil using 2-4 grams and then consuming said oil on nutella sandwiches

1) break up bud and spread flat in a porcelain bowl then cover then put in a preheated oven at 225f for 30 minutes then after oven goes off let it cool close to room temp. Now what I would do then is take away foil and asses texture of bud, never during these past tries had it been the consistency of bud, more like nearly vaped bud, there was some water droplets in the bowl but the bud itself was not desert dry. Next time however i will make sure for flour consistency before even attempting anything with it.



2) dont mind the bold, thing is stuck anyways afterwards I would pour in virgin coconut oil in liquid form until I get atleast a 50/50 ratio of bud/oil. Then put in about 2-3 teaspoons of soy lecithin granules from GNC. Place in pre-heated oven at 250f for 1 hour, agitating every 20 minutes by either shaking the oven or opening the door and shaking the bowl. Would add 5 minutes after opening the oven every time though

3)After an hour or 90 minutes has passed (usually an hour) plus an additional 30 minutes in oven to cool i withdraw the bowl and asses the contest. Usually the bud is mostly black and the coconut oil is green (a darker green if left in longer like 200f for 4 hours, but by then the bud is real black, is this ok?)

4) consume


I've read about freezing the mixture then heating then freezing, is this necessary for potency?
 

qwizoking

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'I've read about freezing the mixture then heating then freezing, is this necessary for potency?"
No and is pointless...no offense kitty...

I make my coconut oil(preferred over butter) with hash...chlorophyll upsets my belly..and decarbing hash is most efficient..you can literally watch it decarb to see if its finished or went too far
But I can't really help make butter with weed
 

gioua

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'I've read about freezing the mixture then heating then freezing, is this necessary for potency?"
No and is pointless...no offense kitty...

I make my coconut oil(preferred over butter) with hash...chlorophyll upsets my belly..and decarbing hash is most efficient..you can literally watch it decarb to see if its finished or went too far
But I can't really help make butter with weed


I agree on it being an extra unneeded step..

the oil may be black due to the leaching out of the chlorophyll into the mix..
 

Xorv

New Member
I think its tolerance, i've been trying this everyday for 2 weeks. First 2 days were awesome, then from there not as high even after melting soy lecithin granules into the oil. Going to take a break. Also I'm curious as to what the color of the oil is suppose to be that signifies a complete extraction, a dark green? what about when soy lecithin granules are mixed in? (which is yellow) im guessing a darker green.

also I don't know what temp/time is best that thc is solvated in satured fats like coconut oil?
 
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