Harvest a Pound Every Three Weeks!

dagobaker · Feb 21, 2009

if i wanted to run a 3 post system all running into the same container what size would i need..........can i get one at lowes/wally world/home depot?........
i have an area that i can fit 5 foot long posts (they sell 10 footers so ill just cut them in half) and its about 3 foot wide
my 32 gallon rough neck is about 31 inches long.....is that long enough?....was thinking about doubling up the container for added stability since i have about an 8 foot ceiling so height is no problem
another question........if i use 4 foot by 4 foot tents.........can i fit the unit in there ? i have the room sealed and can have the container outside so i dont have to close the tent ever..just want to contain the unit without it having contact with the floor directly

dagobaker · Feb 21, 2009

question?
if i added a substance like hydroguard could i exceed the water temps with no problem? stuff (just bought online) says it kills all the nasties the are created in a nute solution..........im thinking about a greenhouse usage and know the temps will go up in the summer

DIRTHAWKER · Feb 21, 2009

StinkBud said:
I had my flow meter set to about 1.7

Ok,, I hooked up my co2 tonight. I set it to come on for 30 minutes right at lights on, of course the exhaust fan is set to turn off right before the injection and is set to come back on in 2 hrs and 45 min (15 min) before the next injection 3 hours later. The temp in the room has been steadily rising without the exhaust and is now 90deg and still rising. The RH has risen also but the dehumidifier is keeping it at around 60%.

Im wondering if i should hold off on my co2 until i can vent the lights?

or is there a different configuration to run co2? like maybe raise the flow rate and inject for a shorter time? alowing the exhaust to run once an hour?

I have been doing different configurations trying to find the right formula and i think i have it somewhat dialed in ok for now. I set the flow rate at 3cfh for 15 minutes on and the exhaust to come on 30 minutes after the c02 is done. The room heats up to 98 right about the time the exhaust kicks on and brings it back down to around 90 before the next co2 injection......I feel like a mad scientist trying to solve the universe. :shock:

Interesting....I just read on weedfarmer that adding co2 during flowering will decrease potency...any truth to that?

Verdant · Feb 21, 2009

Just a quick question.

Will I be able to grow both my clones and my veggies under a 400w MH light? Say if i kept the cloner and the vegger back to back under it?

shage · Feb 21, 2009

anyone have a idea for watering if you have 15 min timers, low on budget building this idea, grow log on forum as started, ww, white berry, red dragon, strawberry cough grow

motif · Feb 21, 2009

Verdant said:
Just a quick question.

Will I be able to grow both my clones and my veggies under a 400w MH light? Say if i kept the cloner and the vegger back to back under it?

thats perfectly fine if you can put a humidome over the clones, they need humidity too survive, if it gets too cold too, they will die, clones need a temp around 78-80F and a lot of humidity

dagobaker · Feb 21, 2009

ive found the aero cloner needs no misting and average humidity
i just keep the water temp around 70 and cut and place in a running aero cloning maching.......i use to mist and cover.....no more

havefungodumb · Feb 21, 2009

StinkBud said:
If you can't afford .90 cents for the correct mister then you can't afford to run my system.

The nutes alone will set you back over a $100. A timer is close to $100.

You are way better off doing soil right than my system wrong. There is nothing wrong with soil if you are broke.

Save up your money and when you can afford to do it right you will be glad you waited.

im just broke for now right, im getting a new job here soon so ya,

i just havnt wanted to order cant trust any friends there all backstabbers so i try to keep my distance.

im just hoping my misters would work, i thought it was really hard to get them in

ill stick with doing a 400w soil grow for now,

im almost done just need to grab a cheap timer, misters if these ones dont work(havnt tried 360's only 180's)

i bought a few pumps so im gonna get to using them, maybe i could get my flood tables going for once

i got some huge ones.

stink, thanks for all the help man sorry for leaveing so many f'ing msgs on your thread,

just wanted to make one of those systems man i thought they looked cool lol, and you helped me do that

later stink buddys.

StinkBud · Feb 22, 2009

andyman said:
Guess Im gona have to crank that space heater up. That sucks. If it gets to lets say 55f during the lights off will it kill them or just slow there growth and nuits uptake?
Im out of room cause all these darn clones all live and I dont have room for them yet. this system just works too good thanks

Lower temps at night are fine. I was just stating the optimum temps.

What happens when the temps get too low is you start to get nutrient lockout. That's why you see outdoor plants turn colors as soon as it gets cold.

Some purple strains need the cold to show their colors.

Warmth increases the plants metabolism. It's kind of like when we exercise and raise our own metabolism.

The warmer the room, the faster the plants grow. At least until you reach a point of diminishing returns. You need CO2 once you go over 80 degrees.

I keep my room at 85-89 degrees during lights on and the growth rate is crazy!

StinkBud · Feb 22, 2009

dagobaker said:
if i wanted to run a 3 post system all running into the same container what size would i need..........can i get one at lowes/wally world/home depot?........
i have an area that i can fit 5 foot long posts (they sell 10 footers so ill just cut them in half) and its about 3 foot wide
my 32 gallon rough neck is about 31 inches long.....is that long enough?....was thinking about doubling up the container for added stability since i have about an 8 foot ceiling so height is no problem

It should work fine. I saw a 3 post system in this thread already.

The cool thing about my system is that it is easy to modify to fit your own needs and space.

another question........if i use 4 foot by 4 foot tents.........can i fit the unit in there ? i have the room sealed and can have the container outside so i dont have to close the tent ever..just want to contain the unit without it having contact with the floor directly

Didn't you just say your fence posts are going to be 5ft.? Not sure if I understand the question.

A 4x4 tent would work fine for your veg and cloner though. Maybe that's what you mean...

Demosthenese · Feb 22, 2009

so i have a similar setup to stinkbuds cloning/vegging setup, but i'm not using roughneck containers. The garbage bag lining is one way to stop leaks, i have found another. I use a big sheet of thin plastic sheeting on top of my res. it has holes cut in it for the plants, and drapes over all four sides of the res lid. Then i tuck it under the lid tso that a couple inches is hanging inside the res on all sides. A towel around the base to catch the occasional drop and it works very reliably.

StinkBud · Feb 22, 2009

andyman said:
Guess Im gona have to crank that space heater up. That sucks. If it gets to lets say 55f during the lights off will it kill them or just slow there growth and nuits uptake?
Im out of room cause all these darn clones all live and I dont have room for them yet. this system just works too good thanks

The whole clone thing gets kind of crazy sometimes. I end up giving a lot of my rooted clones away.

I've never lost a cutting yet! I remember pulling my hair out in frustration back in the day. Cloning was one of the hardest things for me to get right.

I wish I had known about my aero cloner back then.

StinkBud · Feb 22, 2009

dagobaker said:
question?
if i added a substance like hydroguard could i exceed the water temps with no problem? stuff (just bought online) says it kills all the nasties the are created in a nute solution..........im thinking about a greenhouse usage and know the temps will go up in the summer

Roots don't like warm water. If your water is getting too warm then you need to invest in a chiller.

Hydroguard will fix the symptoms but not the problem.

Think of it like this. Suppose you had an infection on your foot that caused a lot of pain.

You could take Morphine or Penicillin. Morphine will get rid of the pain but won't help the problem. You need Penicillin to cure the infection.

Hydroguard is Morphine, the chiller is the Penicillin. :hump:

StinkBud · Feb 22, 2009

DIRTHAWKER said:
Ok,, I hooked up my co2 tonight. I set it to come on for 30 minutes right at lights on, of course the exhaust fan is set to turn off right before the injection and is set to come back on in 2 hrs and 45 min (15 min) before the next injection 3 hours later. The temp in the room has been steadily rising without the exhaust and is now 90deg and still rising. The RH has risen also but the dehumidifier is keeping it at around 60%.

Im wondering if i should hold off on my co2 until i can vent the lights?

or is there a different configuration to run co2? like maybe raise the flow rate and inject for a shorter time? alowing the exhaust to run once an hour?

I have been doing different configurations trying to find the right formula and i think i have it somewhat dialed in ok for now. I set the flow rate at 3cfh for 15 minutes on and the exhaust to come on 30 minutes after the c02 is done. The room heats up to 98 right about the time the exhaust kicks on and brings it back down to around 90 before the next co2 injection......I feel like a mad scientist trying to solve the universe.

You have to vent the lights if your room is sealed. No choice here.

Hold off on the CO2 until you can get your temps under control.

You are going to have to pull the air to your lights from outside your room. I cut a hole in the wall and take the air from my bathroom.

Then I vent the hot air into the attic. My lights are warm to the touch.

Eventually A/C will be your only option. Soon as Summer hits even venting won't be enough.

The good news is eventually you will have everything you need and won't have to buy anything except nutes. It just seems like it takes forever.

If it makes you feel any better it took me 14 years to get all my stuff!

Interesting....I just read on weedfarmer that adding co2 during flowering will decrease potency...any truth to that?

Those are the kind of guys I love to load a huge bong hit for them. Then I sit back and watch the show.

First they turn bright red, then puple/blue and last a kind of pasty white.

When they look up at you their expression is like they just got kicked in the nuts. After a couple of bong hits they always STFU.

Milton187 · Feb 22, 2009

DIRTHAWKER said:
Ok,, I hooked up my co2 tonight. I set it to come on for 30 minutes right at lights on, of course the exhaust fan is set to turn off right before the injection and is set to come back on in 2 hrs and 45 min (15 min) before the next injection 3 hours later. The temp in the room has been steadily rising without the exhaust and is now 90deg and still rising. The RH has risen also but the dehumidifier is keeping it at around 60%.

Im wondering if i should hold off on my co2 until i can vent the lights?

or is there a different configuration to run co2? like maybe raise the flow rate and inject for a shorter time? alowing the exhaust to run once an hour?

I have been doing different configurations trying to find the right formula and i think i have it somewhat dialed in ok for now. I set the flow rate at 3cfh for 15 minutes on and the exhaust to come on 30 minutes after the c02 is done. The room heats up to 98 right about the time the exhaust kicks on and brings it back down to around 90 before the next co2 injection......I feel like a mad scientist trying to solve the universe.

Interesting....I just read on weedfarmer that adding co2 during flowering will decrease potency...any truth to that?

Hey Dirthawker,

I use a c.a.p. controller that will shut the co2 off if the fans come on. It also shuts it off at night. I have NO idea how much co2 I am running. I went through a BIG tank in 4 weeks. Backed it down some now! I will get a balloon and time how long it takes to fill it. Then do some heavy math and adjust. I am saving for an addon that will dose the co2 based on ppm! Maybe next year? Good thing co2 is cheap!

I disagree with the weedfarmer quote!

MILton

StinkBud · Feb 22, 2009

Verdant said:
Just a quick question.

Will I be able to grow both my clones and my veggies under a 400w MH light? Say if i kept the cloner and the vegger back to back under it?

Yes, just don't put the cloner very close to the lights. Too much light on the clones causes them to transpire too much water.

They will wilt and die. Clones need just enough light to stay alive and pop roots.

If you have the room you are better off with just a cheap shop fluorescent light for the clones and use the 400 over the veg. That would actually kick ass big time!

Another option would be to just use shop lights for both your clones and veg and use your 400 in the flower room. That's where you need the most light.

Even if you already have lights for your flower room you can never have too much light.

StinkBud · Feb 22, 2009

shage said:
anyone have a idea for watering if you have 15 min timers, low on budget building this idea, grow log on forum as started, ww, white berry, red dragon, strawberry cough grow

I always recommend going with soil if you are low on funds. The timer is just one small expense in the whole system.

Nutrients will be your biggest expense. They are very expensive. Although my system is cheap compared to buying one, it is still expensive to run. My system is not for everyone.

Grow with soil and save your money. In the long run this will save you a lot of frustration.

Milton187 · Feb 22, 2009

Hi StinkBud,
As long as you are online, look at my latest girls.
The pics are three days old. You inspired me to get off the couch and into the garage! Thanks Thanks Thanks!
This is both fun and helpful hobby!

What do you think? About how long left? Man do I want to sample!!

BIGTIMEROOFERR · Feb 22, 2009

havefungodumb said:
stink,

what you think of the idea of drilling a few tiny holes where a mister would go?

cause my fing misters sucky..

no money to order nutes,

i need nutes,cups might work for pots,pc meter(using cheap one now)
hmm misters?, need to find a friend to order a few things, i put my flowers back into cloner, gonna see how they do.

timer, speakin of that

i had my flowers running 24/7 no air time, thats probly another reason why they are taking so long.

put some of your wifes pantyhose around the pump and your sprayers wont stop up

dspec · Feb 22, 2009

^ Looks great. Those will fatten up for sure, 2 weeks moar? how many days in flower?

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