Harvest a Pound Every Three Weeks!

stink.. where should i get my 600 hps systems and vent fan online? nd wat size vent fan should cool the 4 lights? thnks man.. i kno iv asked before but im hella high and i cant find it

car washer said:

Excellent question.... I practised with a white widow from Nirvana with GH nutes at 500 ppm at a similar point point in process and burned - whereby I am thriving at 1500 to 1700 ppm with Botincare and SB's veg formula... I have learned to listen to SB. I hypothesize that Al B Fuct would disagree with SB on nute strength schedule. Maybe its the organics that allow higher ppm or the aeroponics??? Beyond me...

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Oh - I wasn't even considering the different types of nutes... hmmm? I figured salts are salts, but that would make sense that plants are more naturally able to buffer themselves with organic nutes; more of a take what they need type of thing?

In Coco, I was actually referring to a nute mix mostly of Advanced products... so I am not even comparing apples to apples here! ha ha... Interesting stuff...

Anybody else - PPM's in other mediums vs. PPM's for same strain in Stink system?

Like you said - just listen to Stink!

BIGTIMEROOFERR said:

hey stink
i think all your ideals are great
you should run with it
your going to be famous
every pothead pot grower will know who you are
iv read alot of books too and they just dont make it as simple as you
im planning on buying the hightimes and the dvd and would buy your book too

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That's really nice of you to say those things bro. What a nice guy!

Now that I think about it everyone here is really nice. Is it me or does thread have a unique vibe?

I've never read a thread with so much positive energy. Everyone honestly wanting to help each other.

Spreadin' the love...

Hey stink, for veg what kinda bulbs do u use? I heard that actinic 420nm spectrum T-5/T-8 bulbs are much better than the cool white bulbs as far as the plants response to growth.

The blue spectrum makes em grow faster than the white?

StinkBud said:

I don't skate anymore. The concrete they use nowadays is a lot harder than the old stuff in the 70's. Must be a different mix or something.

I still snowboard 3-5 days a week if the snow is good.

I don't surf traditionaly anymore but in the Summer we go to the coast and hit the surf with our kites.

Same boards but with straps. We boost huge on the way out and surf back in.
It's the shit. Paddling out is way too much work at my age!

Right now I live in one of the windiest spots on earth just so I can kiteboard everyday in the Summer.

If you saw me ride you would say "how can someone ride so long and suck so bad?"

I'm the happy kook!

When I show up at the beach all the fellas come running. Everyone piles in the StinkBud van for a proper meeting. I love to make the kids laugh till they puke. (anyone under 35 is a kid to me)

Believe it or not I actually work a lot too!

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Bro - I know you! Not really (I don't think) - but I do!

Yeah the concrete is WAY harder today - I don't know what they put in it! Water is harder today too, for that matter!

Standard issue at the skate park or the beach - safety meetings are held in our neck of the woods on a regular basis!

You rock, Stink!

LionsRoor said:

Oh - I wasn't even considering the different types of nutes... hmmm? I figured salts are salts, but that would make sense that plants are more naturally able to buffer themselves with organic nutes; more of a take what they need type of thing?

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Of course it's the difference between nutes!

Organic nutes can go much higher with more room for error than inorganic because many of the individual nutrients are locked up in organic compounds until they are broken down by bacteria. It's not much different than eating a bunch of bananas for the potassium, but if I injected the identical amount (in mg) of potassium as the chloride salt into your veins, it would stop you heart.

mindphuk said:

Of course it's the difference between nutes!

Organic nutes can go much higher with more room for error than inorganic because many of the individual nutrients are locked up in organic compounds until they are broken down by bacteria. It's not much different than eating a bunch of bananas for the potassium, but if I injected the identical amount (in mg) of potassium as the chloride salt into your veins, it would stop you heart.

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Hmmm - I think I'm following you... but don't the PPM's just reflect the amount of salts in a given nutrient solution - makes no difference that one is organic and one synthetic, does it? if so - then to answer my original question:

If a strain does well in coco at 1200PPM using Advanced Nutrients, what should I run that strain at in the Stink system using the Botanicare lineup?

So, if 1200PPM is good in coco / Advanced - what is the optimium PPM with Botanicare in the Stink units?

I wanted to go horizontal, but I had to go up. The pic was a first run/test. I got rid of the tubes and ran 1/2" down the 1 1/2 pipes as if it was your system, just standing up. I'll wait till my system is 100% before I get the nerve to start my own thread. But man, you opened my eyes to how it should be easy, if you just keep it that way. Again, Thanks.

new1grower said:

I wanted to go horizontal, but I had to go up. The pic was a first run/test. I got rid of the tubes and ran 1/2" down the 1 1/2 pipes as if it was your system, just standing up. I'll wait till my system is 100% before I get the nerve to start my own thread. But man, you opened my eyes to how it should be easy, if you just keep it that way. Again, Thanks.

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Can i ask how you plan on overcoming the height issue unless of course this is a non issue for you?

StinkBud said:

I pop the seeds in wet paper towels first then put them in the RR plug. Then I take the plug an put it in a net pot and into the cloner.

I about a week the seedling will be about and inch long with the roots being about 2" long. Don't wait too long. Carefully pull them out of the plug and put them into a collar.

I put them right into veg at that point.

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just got my dutch passion blueberry, is it ok to put seedlings in the cloner with the clonex solution or should it be straight water? i was also wondering about ppms and growing different strains, this strain i have now takes over 4500ppms, i seriously dont know when to stop adding nutes. my question is, if i mix my strain with the blueberry and the blueberry can only take about 2000ppms will the other strain suffer from defiencies?

CapnBud said:

Originally Posted by mindriot
Has anyone made 3 single post flowering systems?

i did....oh man did i misunderstand the question

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LOL a little bit! I was looking to see if someone is using 3 separate single post systems. I don't have the space for 3 double-wides. Cool setup though.

Saladsmokin said:

stink.. where should i get my 600 hps systems and vent fan online? nd wat size vent fan should cool the 4 lights? thnks man.. i kno iv asked before but im hella high and i cant find it

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Do you have a local hydro store by chance. I always recommend helping the locals first.

I really can't help you with where to buy lights online. I buy all my stuff from the local shop. He gives me a discount because I only buy from him.

You know. I see some amazing deals on Craig's list sometimes. People selling entire grow setups cheap.

craigslist is definatly the hook up..you can find some nice used guitars too

robotninja said:

Hey stink, for veg what kinda bulbs do u use? I heard that actinic 420nm spectrum T-5/T-8 bulbs are much better than the cool white bulbs as far as the plants response to growth.

The blue spectrum makes em grow faster than the white?

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I think the blue spectrum bulbs work better for veg because they help to keep the internode length down.

I'm actually using a 250W MH for veg. It's one of those lights with the ballast built into the hood.

The truth is cheap $7 shop lights and some 40W cool white bulbs work great.

You don't need much growth in veg before you end up with monsters in flower.

whysohigh said:

just got my dutch passion blueberry, is it ok to put seedlings in the cloner with the clonex solution or should it be straight water? i was also wondering about ppms and growing different strains, this strain i have now takes over 4500ppms, i seriously dont know when to stop adding nutes. my question is, if i mix my strain with the blueberry and the blueberry can only take about 2000ppms will the other strain suffer from defiencies?

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Time for you to be a plant politician! You have to try different PPMs until most of the plants are happy.

You can please all of the plants sometimes.

You can please some of the plants all of the time.

But you can't please all of the plants all of the time...

4500 PPM! Holy shit! My meter only goes to 3000. I'm not really all that much surprised though. Some strains are freaks of Nature!

LionsRoor said:

Hmmm - I think I'm following you... but don't the PPM's just reflect the amount of salts in a given nutrient solution - makes no difference that one is organic and one synthetic, does it? if so - then to answer my original question:

If a strain does well in coco at 1200PPM using Advanced Nutrients, what should I run that strain at in the Stink system using the Botanicare lineup?

So, if 1200PPM is good in coco / Advanced - what is the optimium PPM with Botanicare in the Stink units?

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Here is a couple of things to think about.

Your PPM amount is decided by what strains you are running. Some strains can handle amazing amounts of nutes with no burn.

Some strains show tip burn if you just look at them sideways.

Your PPM meter measures electrical conductivity. Salts conduct electricity. We use this trait so we can put some kind of value to the nutrient mix.

There is a lot of organic matter in our mix than dosen't conduct electricity though, so many of the nutrients can't be measured by a PPM meter.

All you are really trying to do is set a reference point to start from. The number could be anything.

That number is a starting point to dial in your strains. I only recommend 2000 PPM because that's a good place to start from.

You have to take the time and experiment with your strains. Keep a log and write notes. It's actually quite fun.

Start by increasing your PPM slowly. Maybe 200 PPM per week. Watch for tip burn. As soon as you see some tip burn then go back down to the last good setting.

You just dialed in your strain. If you have more than one strain then your fucked...

Just kidding....

mindriot said:

LOL a little bit! I was looking to see if someone is using 3 separate single post systems. I don't have the space for 3 double-wides. Cool setup though.

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You just described Baby StinkBud. I've already sketched up some plans.

It will have a single fence post with two plants. I'm going to use a 5 gal reservoir.

There will be 3 of these units under one light so the person can still harvest every three weeks. That would provide someone with over an ounce of medicine a week. With the right strain it would be easy to hit 2+ oz. a week.

It will be just like my big system but be designed around a 6-plant limit to fit in with many State laws.

This is what I'm thinking:
StinkBud Sr. - Provides for 7 patients
StinkBud Jr. - Provides for 3 patients
Baby StinkBud - Provides for 1 patient

mindriot said:

LOL a little bit! I was looking to see if someone is using 3 separate single post systems. I don't have the space for 3 double-wides. Cool setup though.

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This is interesting,, I am in the process of adding a system and this just my be a better alternative...do you have any pictures of the 3 post system with the plants in final flowering stages? do they get enough light?

If you are going to add CO2 then you definately want to use air cooled reflectors, then just use the Proper cfm recommended by the reflector's manufacturer.

hey stinkbuddies
my co2 is coming in tomorrow
just had to tell someone
as i havent told anybody what im doing
people around here have big mouths
telling one person is like telling the whole town