Harvest a Pound Every Three Weeks!

Jgoasnhja · Mar 8, 2009

Hey Andyman I ended up building the contactor before I read your post but here are some of the finished pics.
Also after I read your post I think I hooked up the wires wrong.
I think you were saying that the two prongs that are under the 1/L1
are for both the positive and neg wires.
Then the two prongs directly oppisite under the 2/T1
are for both the positive and neg wires.
I am also guessing that it doesnt matter which prong is positive or neg on the contactor just as long as the wire on the other side mathches colors (polarity)

Basicly I think you are saying that if I looked at the contactor from the top
and split it down the midlle verticly,
the left side would be for one power strip and the right side would be for another power strip

Please just look at my pics and see if that looks right, if not is what I just explained to you seem like thats right?

Also does it matter which side gets the power strip end of the cord.
From what I understand the 2/T1 side gets it

andyman · Mar 8, 2009

markj said:
I've been growing only in soil, and I've tried both 24/0 and 18/6 during vegging. I believe that my plants like it better when it's 18/6. I still use 24/0 on my clones though.

Im a firm beliver that plants , like us, need sleep time too. Mine seem to grow more during there 6 off time. This is there time to heal and fix them selfs. just my 2c :bigjoint:

andyman · Mar 8, 2009

Jgoasnhja said:
Hey Andyman I ended up building the contactor before I read your post but here are some of the finished pics.
Also after I read your post I think I hooked up the wires wrong.
I think you were saying that the two prongs that are under the 1/L1
are for both the positive and neg wires.
Then the two prongs directly oppisite under the 2/T1
are for both the positive and neg wires.
I am also guessing that it doesnt matter which prong is positive or neg on the contactor just as long as the wire on the other side mathches colors (polarity)

Basicly I think you are saying that if I looked at the contactor from the top
and split it down the midlle verticly,
the left side would be for one power strip and the right side would be for another power strip

Please just look at my pics and see if that looks right, if not is what I just explained to you seem like thats right?

Also does it matter which side gets the power strip end of the cord.
From what I understand the 2/T1 side gets it

yes this will work, but
you really only need say the white wire on it, reconect the black and green. or leave it like it is. if you reconect the black wire you can add a 2nd powerstrip doing the same thing with the white wire on it. def hook up that ground though (green wire) doesnt matter which one you use cause there is no + and - with ac just dc like a car battery. as long as you keep the colors the same. or you can leave it like you have it. my first one was like that but I was toasted when I built it and forgot I only need to make it interupt one side as a switch. hope you understand my giberish. good job. peace

StinkBud · Mar 8, 2009

dagobaker said:
so if i veg at 24 hours i can expect it to take about a week longer
with that being said can i expect it to stretch a little longer (my main strain only stretches 50 to 60%..so if i start at 2 feet it ends up 3 feet or a little more)
next question is would u say that ur plants stretch more since u started using co2>?
i wondering if ill get more stretch (i want more) once i get my co2 system

I flowered my last plants at 6-8". They are already 3 ft. high in only two weeks.

Last night 3 of my plants grew 2" in just one night! WTF!

StinkBud · Mar 8, 2009

whysohigh said:
this is my first pic post so if i did this right this is the strain ive been talking about called wappa, 4 weeks into flowering and taking 5200ppms of nutes and no burn yet.(yes both of my ppm meters work and are calibrated) never had a grow like this until i found this site.

That's crazy! It's amazing how much nutes some strains can take. My Snowbud is the same way.

I can't wait to see how it all comes out. Thanks for the pics bro and keep them coming.

Good job!

StinkBud · Mar 8, 2009

tomdon said:
StinkBud said:

Your container need to be light tight. If you see anything green growing that means light is getting though and causing algae to grow.

Quickest fix is to use a black contractors bag to line the res and block out light.

You also need a black or dark blue top. The gray ones let in light.

Drain, clean and refill with water up to the bottom of the sprayer pipes.

Watch your room temps. If your room/water gets to hot you could end up with funk growing in your res.
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Thanks for writing back, I will give that a try and keep you posted. One more question so you do recommend the clonex solution at all in the res? and if so what should the ppm end result be? Thanks stink I'll be posting pics soon!

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Check your water PPM. There is no way your cloner should be reading that high of PPM.

I recommend an RO machine if your water is above 200 PPM.

You don't have to use Clonex. No matter what you will end up with roots eventually.

StinkBud · Mar 8, 2009

sparat1k said:
SB, thanks for all great info on veging time and such. I've read that some memebers have remarked that some strains actually grow during darkness/take root better with darkness,2-6 hrs. Can you weigh in on this? I'd like to have an experiment were I could take different light periods, 18hr,20hr,22hr,24hr of veg and weigh the the same clones, plus mark how many days before budsites apeared. I think that would be interesting.

The whole clone thing is a non issue for me. Right now I have way too many clones already rooted. I always have more clones than I could ever use.

Ask Dirt or Andy if they have any clone issues? I bet they say the same thing as me. Too many clones!

whysohigh · Mar 8, 2009

StinkBud said:
That's crazy! It's amazing how much nutes some strains can take. My Snowbud is the same way.

I can't wait to see how it all comes out. Thanks for the pics bro and keep them coming.

Good job!

thanks stink, ill keep the pics coming but i have to speak up on this cuz no one else has, on top of being a pot guru, your an amazing fuckin photographer, some of your pics you take look like shit out of a magizine. ive got a decent camera that is at 7.8 megapixels it takes pretty good pics but they arent anything compaired to what you have goin on. :blsmoke:

Jgoasnhja · Mar 8, 2009

Hey Stink or any other buddies that have been following along. I know that you say that if your water's ppm is over 200 that you recomend a RO machine. The question I have is my tap water is at 280, do you think that is too high or do you think its workable.

StinkBud · Mar 8, 2009

whysohigh said:
thanks stink, ill keep the pics coming but i have to speak up on this cuz no one else has, on top of being a pot guru, your an amazing fuckin photographer, some of your pics you take look like shit out of a magizine. ive got a decent camera that is at 7.8 megapixels it takes pretty good pics but they arent anything compaired to what you have goin on.

Thank you very much! That's really nice of you to say.

I wish I could show you guys my work. I'm sure many of you would love it.

I just bought the new Canon 5D MKII. It's 21MP. I also have a really nice quiver of lenses.

StinkBud · Mar 8, 2009

Jgoasnhja said:
Hey Stink or any other buddies that have been following along. I know that you say that if your water's ppm is over 200 that you recomend a RO machine. The question I have is my tap water is at 280, do you think that is too high or do you think its workable.

That's OK. Just stop using Cal-Mag in your formula. You won't need it...

Shrike · Mar 8, 2009

Hell uv a nice camera, Stink! I'm jealous as can be. Damn, you could print wall sized clear prints with that set up. Nice pick... ;-)

StinkBud said:
Thank you very much! That's really nice of you to say.

I wish I could show you guys my work. I'm sure many of you would love it.

I just bought the new Canon 5D MKII. It's 21MP. I also have a really nice quiver of lenses.

LionsRoor · Mar 8, 2009

Shrike said:
Hell uv a nice camera, Stink! I'm jealous as can be. Damn, you could print wall sized clear prints with that set up. Nice pick...

What are we gonna do when the thread hits 420 pages! Wow, Stink!

LionsRoor · Mar 8, 2009

whysohigh said:
this is my first pic post so if i did this right this is the strain ive been talking about called wappa, 4 weeks into flowering and taking 5200ppms of nutes and no burn yet.(yes both of my ppm meters work and are calibrated) never had a grow like this until i found this site.

5200!! Wow - looks perfect! My meter would not read that! Is your meter actually an EC meter converting to PPM's? If so - what does 1.0ms = in PPM?

Do you flush along the way too? If so, how often?

Thanks!

andyman · Mar 8, 2009

StinkBud said:
The whole clone thing is a non issue for me. Right now I have way too many clones already rooted. I always have more clones than I could ever use.

Ask Dirt or Andy if they have any clone issues? I bet they say the same thing as me. Too many clones!

I originally took like 4 or more clones from each plant I had, incase some didnt make it. Now I have so many I keep putting the extras in dirt to transplant outdoors. I have no more room cause every thing I put into the cloner gets roots and lives. I cant wait to find out what some of my bagseeds are (male or female) just so I can throw the males out to make room. I had to add nuits to one of my cloners cause they all have roots and no were to put them yet to veg. I use strait tap water and add nothing else. shit I havent even changed the water in over a month in any of my systems. The veg and flower use so much water up that I just keep adding water and nuits. I havent cleaned my veg unit for over 2 months and it smell fine and there thriving great. My tap water is about 250-280ppm and I still use a little cal-mag. seems to work fine. I do have to add about 2 cap fulls of ph down though. to my veg unit.
peace

LionsRoor · Mar 8, 2009

FredSavage said:
so i setup my cloner early in the week... the water PH was over 7.0 so i used ph down. now @ 5.8 , but the leaves on the plants are turnin yellow... so i checked the ppms today.. they at almost 1000 ppm... hmm?? only ting ive added to this water was ph down, and the 150ml of clonex.. is this water no good and should i get bottled water, or am i just being impatient and the plants are just adjusting to their new home? stink or any stinkbuddies, your help is appreciated.. peace

What is the PPM of your water?

If your water is 1000PPM without nutes - your water likely has too much of something in it. Try bottled drinking water - or ad a bit of CalMag to distilled/purified water.

If you just put em in - even on Monday - it is likely that you will not see roots yet... I have trouble being patient too. One things for sure, lookin' at em doesn't speed things up - I know that firsthand! I suppose I am fussy!

Yellowing leaves is normal - and often signals the sign of roots!

LionsRoor · Mar 8, 2009

andyman said:
I originally took like 4 or more clones from each plant I had, incase some didnt make it. Now I have so many I keep putting the extras in dirt to transplant outdoors. I have no more room cause every thing I put into the cloner gets roots and lives. I cant wait to find out what some of my bagseeds are (male or female) just so I can throw the males out to make room. I had to add nuits to one of my cloners cause they all have roots and no were to put them yet to veg. I use strait tap water and add nothing else. shit I havent even changed the water in over a month in any of my systems. The veg and flower use so much water up that I just keep adding water and nuits. I havent cleaned my veg unit for over 2 months and it smell fine and there thriving great. My tap water is about 250-280ppm and I still use a little cal-mag. seems to work fine. I do have to add about 2 cap fulls of ph down though. to my veg unit.
peace

No sheit?! I'm way too paranoid! I need to ease up on my attack on germs that aren't even threre! Ha ha You rock, AndyMan!

FredSavage · Mar 9, 2009

ppm of water is around 400 pre-clonex... after clonex its around 1000ppm.. they were in the rockwool cube from co-op still when i first put them in there... not a good move i think. the roots were gettin all brown and shit. so i cut them from the rockwool cubes and are lettin them re-root... did this to a green crack clone i had, and shes nice and healthy.. seem like it was only the ones in the cubes that were gettin like this.. anyways, got rid of cubes and also cleaned and refreshed res.. they seem to be adjusting but it looks like my kaia kush is gettin claw leaves... over nute i guess.. gunna have to do another res change w/ out the clonex, abd bottled drinking water.. thank for the help. peace

LionsRoor said:
What is the PPM of your water?

If your water is 1000PPM without nutes - your water likely has too much of something in it. Try bottled drinking water - or ad a bit of CalMag to distilled/purified water.

If you just put em in - even on Monday - it is likely that you will not see roots yet... I have trouble being patient too. One things for sure, lookin' at em doesn't speed things up - I know that firsthand! I suppose I am fussy!

Yellowing leaves is normal - and often signals the sign of roots!

andyman · Mar 9, 2009

FredSavage said:
ppm of water is around 400 pre-clonex... after clonex its around 1000ppm.. they were in the rockwool cube from co-op still when i first put them in there... not a good move i think. the roots were gettin all brown and shit. so i cut them from the rockwool cubes and are lettin them re-root... did this to a green crack clone i had, and shes nice and healthy.. seem like it was only the ones in the cubes that were gettin like this.. anyways, got rid of cubes and also cleaned and refreshed res.. they seem to be adjusting but it looks like my kaia kush is gettin claw leaves... over nute i guess.. gunna have to do another res change w/ out the clonex, abd bottled drinking water.. thank for the help. peace

just use plain ol water or buy some good water. dont put anything like clonex or nuits in. Like stinkbud says make them lil bastards grow roots if they want some nuits or food. Trust me if the temp is not to hot or too cold they will pop roots. I even got a fan leave I trimmed off to start roots.

andyman · Mar 9, 2009

Well out of the 12 bagseed I started flowering 10 are male, 1 is def female, & 1 is still to close to tell yet. That sucks. I thought about 5 days ago that most of them were male, but I wanted to wait till it looked like a bannana tree first. lol
ohh well now I can kill a bunch to make room for others.

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