iBLaZe4tozErO
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2nd paragraph. But imma read ur thread in a min.
Harvest a Pound Every Three Weeks!
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SOG
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yep you can try and do that with the stem (this was not a mother plant)
in general this is not the practice for cutting clones with the Stink system
hehehemann
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I too have taken clones from the 'topped' part I cut. Its proven successful in the cloner and veg stations so far.
andyman
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shit guys this cloner works with anything. I rooted a fan leaf. Ive rooted tops just the same as lower branches.
The resson to do the lower branches is so there out of the way or they were gonna get removed anyway since they dont get enough light to make much and let air movement under the plant canopy. most people just prefer to have there top as the main biggest nicest bud. It doesnt matter either will clone just the same.
The resson to do the lower branches is so there out of the way or they were gonna get removed anyway since they dont get enough light to make much and let air movement under the plant canopy. most people just prefer to have there top as the main biggest nicest bud. It doesnt matter either will clone just the same.
Maybetomorrow
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Welcome back Stink! You got roots out of a fan leaf? how long did that take? I will be doing my first batch of clones since my 10 females from seed have hit 11 days into flowering and they are starting to form little buds all over the place. My question is when you clone can you use a lower branch of a plant and cut it into 3 parts each part with 2 sets of leaves would this work or does it need to have a top on it?
dagobaker
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i think im going to be going with 4 huge trees per post and ill have 2 units or 16 plants under each 600 hps.....add co2 and i think i have a shot at 1.5 oz per plant or 24 oz per light...... x by 4 lights and i can yield 6 # every 8 weeks
i have 6 vegging units and only grow half as many in each as stink........but they are very fat
i have 6 vegging units and only grow half as many in each as stink........but they are very fat
Like AndyMan says - anything works - I think Stink has rooted pencils! (ha ha). Ideally - the cut has 3 or more nodes - with a top section - at least 2 nodes above the collar and 1 below... I like to set the cut in the collar so the lowermost node is just above the neoprene collar. With pencils - I like the eraser about 3 inches from the collar.
txhomegrown
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I am glad this subject has come back up. I have built the cloner and veg unit according to specs. except I only did 21 holes in the cloner and 16 in the veg unit. I have the water PH steady at 5.8. My water comes out of the tap at 246 ppm. Cuttings are lit with cfls. I didnt use Clonex because Stink said it was not reallt needed. WHY are my cuttings shriveling up and dying? Is it possible that there is something else in the water that is causing this? If that is true, what the hell have I been making my coffee out of for 3 years? HELP please
NewHiddenGrower
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Great Idea
14 per veg unit is too much even just for 3 weeks. Your always getting better NewHiddenGrower
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Hey Stinkbud, dont be shy, do you recommend all stinkbuddies to convert all veg units to 8 holes instead of 14?
And convert all flowering units from 7 per a post to maybe 4 or 5.
All this is necessary for greater yield, because the only flaw of your system is the limited space. Everything else is basicly God-Like perfect.
Please dont be shy and brighten up your stinkbuddies.
Thank You,
p.s noone will be Mad by changing the system up, we actually want perfection.
And convert all flowering units from 7 per a post to maybe 4 or 5.
All this is necessary for greater yield, because the only flaw of your system is the limited space. Everything else is basicly God-Like perfect.
Please dont be shy and brighten up your stinkbuddies.
Thank You,
p.s noone will be Mad by changing the system up, we actually want perfection.
Hmmm - my cloner has 23 holes, veg units have 18 holes... but you don't have to use them all. Same goes for clone and flower units.
My original design used 4 sites per 4' post section.
https://www.rollitup.org/hydroponics-aeroponics/116859-harvest-pound-every-three-weeks-166.html#post1807431
I think Stink's yields speak for themselves! I think he is close to maximizing what can be had from a 16" x 48" space... but I too, am considering running a few less plants per flower unit.
Little change is required to run less plants...
http://www.igrowhydro.com/detail.aspx?ID=4525
NewHiddenGrower
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Not using up all the holes is basicly considered converting and changing like i said.
Its not about stinkbuds yield, its about stinkbuddies yields that speak for itself. Like dirthawker and others avg 1 oz per a plant, while other growers out there including soil growers are able to harvest avg of 2-8oz with the same veg/flowering time. Stinkbud has been growing with this system far longer than anyone and he says he avg 2-3oz per plant.
Another thing when you used 4 holes per fence post, how was your plants in size compared to the 7 hole per post.
Thank you
andyman
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sometimes when I take a clone I still have half of a stalk left with 2 nodes or branch starts. I clone that too and its like a toped branch so when it grows its like haveing 2 main branches from the start with one set of roots.. I use to do this more often but now I cant find enough room for the clones and other plants so I throw out scraps like that since I have more clones than I can flower. My cloner is not so needed rt now since I dont have the space to flower any more than about 18-20 rt now. I have lilacs in my cloner rt now, they take about 2-3 weeks to root, but the ol lady loves the smell the big lilac bushes make so I figured I would clone more of them to plant around the house.
so my long drawn out answer is NO you dont need a top to clone it.
as pictured
whats your temps (inside tote and outside tote), do you have a fan blowin strait on them (clones dont like it, drys them out to fast), how close are your lights, when you have the netcup out does water get your finger wet when you first start to stick it in the whole (as stink says, works for the wife too), how far are the sprayers up or down from the lid, how long do they live, and whats the ppm of the water? I will try and help you figure out whats up. also whats the ambient temp day and night around the room there in. and does the tote sit on a concrete floor.I am glad this subject has come back up. I have built the cloner and veg unit according to specs. except I only did 21 holes in the cloner and 16 in the veg unit. I have the water PH steady at 5.8. My water comes out of the tap at 246 ppm. Cuttings are lit with cfls. I didnt use Clonex because Stink said it was not reallt needed. WHY are my cuttings shriveling up and dying? Is it possible that there is something else in the water that is causing this? If that is true, what the hell have I been making my coffee out of for 3 years? HELP please
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StinkBud
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Basically anything will work. You can veg the plants longer and use less plants or you can stick them into flower early and harvest more plants.
By me going to less plants I'll get more bud per plant but the total harvest will be less. I really don't need as much bud as I harvest now anyway. My patients have all they can smoke right now.
Around here outdoor growers veg for three months and average at least a pound per plant. It's all about veg time!
The plants end up 7-8 feet tall and about 6 ft wide, I shit you not!
StinkBud
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If you take one plant that is 80% Indica and 20% Sativa and mix it with another plant that is 25% Indica and 75% Sativa, what is the final ratio of Indica to Sativa?
Blueberry + Skunk = Sour Blue
(80%I + 20%S) + (25%I + 75%S) = ?
Is this right?
80+25=105
20+75=95
105/2=52.5
95/2=47.5
That would mean 52.5% Indica and 47.5% Sativa, right?
You know you are getting old when your 10yr. old's math starts kicking your ass! I'm going to have to learn everything all over again!
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Blueberry + Skunk = Sour Blue
(80%I + 20%S) + (25%I + 75%S) = ?
Is this right?
80+25=105
20+75=95
105/2=52.5
95/2=47.5
That would mean 52.5% Indica and 47.5% Sativa, right?
You know you are getting old when your 10yr. old's math starts kicking your ass! I'm going to have to learn everything all over again!
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Sure Shot
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If you take one plant that is 80% Indica and 20% Sativa and mix it with another plant that is 25% Indica and 75% Sativa, what is the final ratio of Indica to Sativa?
Blueberry + Skunk = Sour Blue
(80%I + 20%S) + (25%I + 75%S) = ?
Is this right?
80+25=105
20+75=95
105/2=52.5
95/2=47.5
That would mean 52.5% Indica and 47.5% Sativa, right?
You know you are getting old when your 10yr. old's math starts kicking your ass! I'm going to have to learn everything all over again!
Wouldn't that have something to do with your selection of the offspring.
Since the little girls are all going to have different traits.
You would look for the strongest girl with slightly more Indica presence.
Then you'll have a mother.
But, I'm not speaking from personal experience.
Just think I read that somewhere.
SOG
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your good to go braIf you take one plant that is 80% Indica and 20% Sativa and mix it with another plant that is 25% Indica and 75% Sativa, what is the final ratio of Indica to Sativa?
Blueberry + Skunk = Sour Blue
(80%I + 20%S) + (25%I + 75%S) = ?
Is this right?
80+25=105
20+75=95
105/2=52.5
95/2=47.5
That would mean 52.5% Indica and 47.5% Sativa, right?
You know you are getting old when your 10yr. old's math starts kicking your ass! I'm going to have to learn everything all over again!
matt7835706
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Haha funny, Stinkbud, last night I found a great artical in high time about a nft system that yields a pound every three days with all the step by step instruction for the setup, I brought the mag to work today to finish it and low and behold I stumbled across this artical. Great work! hey why are the clone roots black ? Is that from the organic fert? I currently have a hydro set up but want to make a change. any sugestions to increace yeild in this small space. kiss-ass
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txhomegrown
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Temps stay about 76-78. I have a fan by the window AC blowing cool air into the closet(open door), but not directly on the clones. Also a small fan in the closet to circulate the air. 2 26 watt CFL's about 16 In. above clones. Water sprays out of the hole when the cup is out. The cuttings seem to live about a week. PPM 246. No Clonex. Room stays in the mid 70's. Tote is on the wooden floor, no concrete slab. Hope this is enough info. Thanks.whats your temps (inside tote and outside tote), do you have a fan blowin strait on them (clones dont like it, drys them out to fast), how close are your lights, when you have the netcup out does water get your finger wet when you first start to stick it in the whole (as stink says, works for the wife too), how far are the sprayers up or down from the lid, how long do they live, and whats the ppm of the water? I will try and help you figure out whats up. also whats the ambient temp day and night around the room there in. and does the tote sit on a concrete floor.