Harvest a Pound Every Three Weeks!

Sub Zero · Jan 6, 2010

To ad to my stress, I just survived a Thrips infestation; then one day I open the door to my surprise, 1,000,000+ baby fungus nats.
I had a Sativa in dirt still 12 weeks flowering... Now I'm dealing with powdery mildew, beware of the clones you introduce to your gardens, my advise.

haikubutthead · Jan 6, 2010

Sub Zero said:
I did that's why I'm on this road of no return.
I got so excited about this set up with out really thinking about all the problems that will spring up.
For example, leaking cloner and vegger, which is solved now.

I was just stressing that day cause the res. temps reached 76.7 degrees.
Damn Socal and it's 83 degree winters...

With Stinks system I thought this would give me the best chance at a good winter grow
Just enough crop until next winters grow is what I'm shoot'n for.
It's so damn hot from April until mid Oct. in the IE...
I can't afford the AC and Lights, I grow for my personal meds.
I do not sell it as a cash crop, ok?

Really, it's all about the $$$

My leak fix...

1) The best solution I have seen to chilling multiple reservoirs was presented by SOG. It uses one chiller (size dependent on number of reservoirs to chill) and daisychains the cooling to each reservoir. In each reservoir is a cooling unit (I believe he used booster boxes). He was cooling more than 4 reservoirs and only had a 1-2 degree drop between incoming and outgoing. Lower tech solutions are taping the outside of the reservoir with reflective tape, insulation, extending the piping and moving the reservoir to a cooler location, adding frozen water bottles, and on.....

2) You may or may not need RO water. It depends on your PPM coming out of the tap. I didn't understand the 55-gallon bucket reference.

3) You may not have a day off, but it certainly isn't a full day of work either. Many days are just monitoring the system and making adjustments if necessary. Harvesting is the most work. That is the price of a successful system. You don't have to go the full monty. Check out StinkBud Jr if you want a smaller system.

Best to you....

Sure Shot · Jan 6, 2010

Sub Zero said:
To ad to my stress, I just survived a Thrips infestation; then one day I open the door to my surprise, 1,000,000+ baby fungus nats.
I had a Sativa in dirt still 12 weeks flowering... Now I'm dealing with powdery mildew, beware of the clones you introduce to your gardens, my advise.

I feel for ya Sub.
I'm in the same boat.
I just threw them all outside and sterilized the room.
Bugs and mold at the same time is detrimental to the plant's but they are looking good since I put them outside.
It seems the cold wet weather is just what they needed to fight the powder mold and the bugs.
Normally it would be best to wait to put them out until Feb.
But in this case I would advise you do the same if at all possible.
Good luck

Sub Zero · Jan 6, 2010

haikubutthead said:
1) The best solution I have seen to chilling multiple reservoirs was presented by SOG. It uses one chiller (size dependent on number of reservoirs to chill) and daisychains the cooling to each reservoir. In each reservoir is a cooling unit (I believe he used booster boxes). He was cooling more than 4 reservoirs and only had a 1-2 degree drop between incoming and outgoing. Lower tech solutions are taping the outside of the reservoir with reflective tape, insulation, extending the piping and moving the reservoir to a cooler location, adding frozen water bottles, and on.....

2) You may or may not need RO water. It depends on your PPM coming out of the tap. I didn't understand the 55-gallon bucket reference.

3) You may not have a day off, but it certainly isn't a full day of work either. Many days are just monitoring the system and making adjustments if necessary. Harvesting is the most work. That is the price of a successful system. You don't have to go the full monty. Check out StinkBud Jr if you want a smaller system.

Best to you....

Thanks, I have city water, about 157 PPM and PH is about 7.6 and lots of chemicals too.

I have a new 5 stage RO system a 55 gal drum and a float shut off valve and a place to put it; I have to run the water lines now.
I also found out the RO systems out there create huge amount of waste water to create 1 gal. of RO water.
Instead of wasting water I thought I would run the waste water line outside to some micro sprayers and water the flower beds or the lawn...

I am running a 3, 6-hole StinkBud Jr set-up, a 6 hole ebb n flow and a 12, 2 liter plastic bottle ebb n flow all built by myself. I must say, building these things has been a fun! :bigjoint:

haikubutthead · Jan 6, 2010

Sub Zero said:
<snip> I must say, building these things has been a fun!

Your PPM is acceptable. Your pH can be adjusted with Up/Down. The chemicals may require RO to get rid of. But you already have your unit.

Now I see what your are doing with the 55-gallon. Stockpiling water. :lol:

I think my RO kicks out 4 parts for every part it saves. The ratio is different, depending on the quality of the incoming water. What to do with the reject water? The chemicals will have a higher concentration than your tap water, but not substantially so - and hey, it is supposed to be "safe" to drink right? Ha!

Yeah, building the units is like adult Tinker Toys.

jfgordon1 · Jan 6, 2010

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Sub Zero · Jan 6, 2010

Sure Shot said:
I feel for ya Sub.
I'm in the same boat.
I just threw them all outside and sterilized the room.
Bugs and mold at the same time is detrimental to the plant's but they are looking good since I put them outside.
It seems the cold wet weather is just what they needed to fight the powder mold and the bugs.
Normally it would be best to wait to put them out until Feb.
But in this case I would advise you do the same if at all possible.
Good luck

The teenagers around here would love it if I put my Ladies outside, I live in the city... ROTFLMAO! Thanks for the laugh :lol:

P.S. I envy you NorCal growers big time!

MeJuana · Jan 6, 2010

My tap water is between 500 and 650 PPM. My plants are vegging in it right now too, so I just put the PPM right below 2000. Yes I ordered a RO DI system, but for now they are doing ok.

northeastern lights · Jan 6, 2010

So I'm joining the club. Just built my very own StinkBud setup. I did 12 sites on 2 4ft posts. Another 4 weeks and I'll have something to put in it. Oh and many thanks to StinkBud for the ideas :bigjoint:

dagobaker · Jan 7, 2010

streetlegal said:
yo DB, ghs good genetics?!..
not likely.. Never thought id see dagobaker rep ghs

ive grown the ams and the super lemon haze
the quality of the buds is second to none
i would say that the ams is a better easier overall plant to grow and the smoke is amazing with a kick in the ass
the super lemon haze smoke is 100% up high with it being like a brick through a plane glass window.............instant high
why u hating on greenhouse seeds?
they do sell a million seeds a year and they are very reasonably priced and easy to buy
u ever grow them?.....or just hating with the hype
im 2 for 2 on growing their strains......although growing hazes arent for the weak at heart

dagobaker · Jan 7, 2010

Sub Zero said:
Give it up Stink Buddies...

1. How are you going to chill 4 reservoirs, 4 chillers at $300. + each?
2. Are ready to buy a RO and a 55 gal drum?
3. Are you ready to never have a day off?

I'm half way into this, and I'm having second thoughts, think about it before you jump into the deep end.
Reservoirs

i have 22 aero systems with zero chillers
i run 85 degrees and co2 and never had an issue with temps

streetlegal · Jan 7, 2010

dagobaker said:
ive grown the ams and the super lemon haze
the quality of the buds is second to none
i would say that the ams is a better easier overall plant to grow and the smoke is amazing with a kick in the ass
the super lemon haze smoke is 100% up high with it being like a brick through a plane glass window.............instant high
why u hating on greenhouse seeds?
they do sell a million seeds a year and they are very reasonably priced and easy to buy
u ever grow them?.....or just hating with the hype
im 2 for 2 on growing their strains......although growing hazes arent for the weak at heart

Hey DB.. heres a copy/paste of a GHS rant i wrote with the reasons i wouldnt buy ghs gear.. to a degree im with the hype crowd, and also Shanti is a fellow countryman so that kinda makes me feel more compelled lol..

Nope the biggest reason ppl dont like ghs is bcos they are not breeders. Shantibaba has the original genetics and is the breeder and MJ enthusiast.

Where is the GHS new releases? they dont have any bcos they have no breeding program.

Why are GHS seeds all femenised? Bcos they have no parents and keep turning there crappy F2's fem.

Original Mr Nice Black Widow is knock off ghs white widow
Origial Mr Nice Medicine Man is knock off ghs white rhino
Original Mr Nice Shark Shock is knock off ghs great white shark
Original Mr Nice Super Silver Hze is knock off ghs ssh
GHS named there plant Trainwreck when it has NOTHING to do with the original clone only TW

The original Father of modern seedbanks and Haze craetor himself Neville Schoenmaker (nevilles haze) is aligned with Mr Nice Seeds and is also a fellow countryman of Shantibabas Australian! (Aussie Aussie Aussie)
So know the facts and make ur own decision.. the original seeds or sketchy knock offs.. they should both grow u plants.

streetlegal · Jan 7, 2010

dagobaker said:
i have 22 aero systems with zero chillers
i run 85 degrees and co2 and never had an issue with temps

Yo DB, i packed my SB system away for this reason.. wot temps are ur res's at? wot kinda of patho killer do u use?..
Ive gort co2 on the way, u think i can run my room at 85 without chillers?.. how do u stay clear of the funk?

i might need to change my plans if this is the case

mpgion · Jan 8, 2010

Would there be any issues with making the unit 5'6', instead of 44/48"? Also can you put more than two trays per res?

smppro · Jan 8, 2010

streetlegal said:
Hey DB.. heres a copy/paste of a GHS rant i wrote with the reasons i wouldnt buy ghs gear.. to a degree im with the hype crowd, and also Shanti is a fellow countryman so that kinda makes me feel more compelled lol..

I know a lot of people dont like GH because of where it comes from, but regardless of the source they have really nice strains that smoke very well for very cheap if you ask me, lemon skunk is one of my favorite strains right now.

MeJuana · Jan 8, 2010

I think most of use will not be able to run 85F in the room without relocating our res or running a chiller. I think this because Stinkbud says so. Well him and laws of physics, the res will be 85F

mindphuk · Jan 8, 2010

smppro said:
I know a lot of people dont like GH because of where it comes from, but regardless of the source they have really nice strains that smoke very well for very cheap if you ask me, lemon skunk is one of my favorite strains right now.

I have GH Lemon Skunk running in my SB setup for the first time. It is day 49 and it smells a like lemon pledge right now.
I have some pre-98 bubba kush too. The skunk isn't as full of crystals as the bubba.
Can't wait to smoke some of it.

streetlegal · Jan 9, 2010

MeJuana said:
I think most of use will not be able to run 85F in the room without relocating our res or running a chiller. I think this because Stinkbud says so. Well him and laws of physics, the res will be 85F

if u drop the organic nutes and dose h2o2 every 3 days u can run high rez temps

dagobaker · Jan 9, 2010

streetlegal said:
Hey DB.. heres a copy/paste of a GHS rant i wrote with the reasons i wouldnt buy ghs gear.. to a degree im with the hype crowd, and also Shanti is a fellow countryman so that kinda makes me feel more compelled lol..

im not denying that greenhouse didnt create most of the strains that they have
but to be honest there are very few NEW strains hitting the market that arent either clone only strains that are cubed or bx 6 times to create basic IBL (REZ) or taking 2 killer strains and crossing them to make new strains
how many breeders now a days are getting landrace strains from over seas and making totally new strains?.....how about almost none
the AMS and the CHURCH are very unique and growing swiss genetics arent exaclty what anyone else is doing
they did make the super lemon haze and thats a pretty amazing strain
so instead of hating just grow the best strains from each breeder instead of over thinking about where most of the other genetics come from
i dont hear people complaining about sam the skunkman not getting credit for creating nl5 x haze and skunk.........
how many strains have those as parents?

dagobaker · Jan 9, 2010

streetlegal said:
Yo DB, i packed my SB system away for this reason.. wot temps are ur res's at? wot kinda of patho killer do u use?..
Ive gort co2 on the way, u think i can run my room at 85 without chillers?.. how do u stay clear of the funk?

i might need to change my plans if this is the case

ive never had any issue with rez temps and "funk"
i use pure blend pro
cal/mag
sweet
liq karma
hydroplex (messing with this one)

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