Harvest a Pound Every Three Weeks!

AKGrowAreo

Well-Known Member
Thanks for the feedback. I'll stick with the t5's. With my setup I would rather have short and stockier plants.

What two strains are they?
I am running Trinity Kush and Blackberry OG. I usually chop the Trin about 5 days earlier that the BB. Trinity Kush is my all time favorite strain. medium in stature but still a huge produce, easy to clone, super stoney, indica heavy, loves heavy nute regiment, easy to grow and looks great in the grow process and after harvest, its an all around winner!

The Blackberry OG is a medium producer that is short in stature but its a heavy sativa, go figure... I have never smelled or tasted anything so fucking sweet in my life. I am from Oregon originally where blackberries grow everywhere along the side of the road, and the aroma of Blackberry OG is exactly like that of the sweet aroma you smell in the heat of Oregon summers as the sun beats down on the wild blackberries. The smoke actually tastes like blackberries too, which is weird to me cause even the fruitiest of buds that I have smoked over the past few decades never left a sweet aftertaste in my mouth like the BB OG does. The high has absolutely no ceiling so just keep smoking unitl you forget how to smoke. Fuck, now I just want to go get high. lol. All my patients and friends fucking freaked out about the BB from the first harvest of it and wont stop asking about it. Finally about ready to chop them down again and I cant wait.
 

ThaMagnificent

Well-Known Member
Havnt bought one yet so im open. I would like to run perpetual so at least 2 systems. If you have a design and parts list for a 4x8 please send
 

joey green

Well-Known Member
That's weird, ya they are usually connected, like the red one. That way if one trips the other does as well. If those are both feeding that outlet it's dangerous, one could trip, one couldn't, keeping power flowing to an issue. You sure they both feed that outlet? Is the heater they powered still there? If so go look at its voltage, that'll tell you what voltage it was getting.
I got rid of the heater a long time ago but i still have others that are the same make and they say 240v. i checked the outlet and if i turn off any one of the two breakers the outlet gets no power. I took pics and went to home depot but the guy in the electrical section didn't know much, he said he thinks i can take the wire out of one and put the two to one breaker at 15amps and leave the other dead...
any thoughts on this?
 

Attachments

WeedFreak78

Well-Known Member
I got rid of the heater a long time ago but i still have others that are the same make and they say 240v. i checked the outlet and if i turn off any one of the two breakers the outlet gets no power. I took pics and went to home depot but the guy in the electrical section didn't know much, he said he thinks i can take the wire out of one and put the two to one breaker at 15amps and leave the other dead...
any thoughts on this?
That's a 2 pole breaker, meant for 240, 120 each side. I've never seen one that the switch isn't connected, but I dont deal with electrical that much, idk if its OK to use half to get 120, I wouldn't . I think the best way is to get a 120v single pole breaker, they're something like $15. Kill the main, pull the breakers with the black and white wires, put the black wire on the new breaker, put the white wire, off the other breaker, on the bar below it, take the other white wire off of that bar( ****!!!! I'm assuming whoever wired it used common practice of putting associated wires under the corresponding breaker, if not, good luck! *******), mark the end well with green tape, marker, etc., then attach it to the smaller bar to the left with the bare wires on it, that's ground.

Wire accordingly on the other end, black to common, white to neutral, green to ground. Don't electrocute yourself.
 

AKGrowAreo

Well-Known Member
That's a 2 pole breaker, meant for 240, 120 each side. I've never seen one that the switch isn't connected, but I dont deal with electrical that much, idk if its OK to use half to get 120, I wouldn't . I think the best way is to get a 120v single pole breaker, they're something like $15. Kill the main, pull the breakers with the black and white wires, put the black wire on the new breaker, put the white wire, off the other breaker, on the bar below it, take the other white wire off of that bar( ****!!!! I'm assuming whoever wired it used common practice of putting associated wires under the corresponding breaker, if not, good luck! *******), mark the end well with green tape, marker, etc., then attach it to the smaller bar to the left with the bare wires on it, that's ground.

Wire accordingly on the other end, black to common, white to neutral, green to ground. Don't electrocute yourself.
@WeedFreak78 is correct!
 

joey green

Well-Known Member
Lol. .when you're broke and own a house, you figure this stuff out.
sure do! called a few electricians they all said the same thing, best not to play around with it, we can come out and have a quick look for you.... not gonna pay for something i could prob do myself and definitely not letting some stranger into my room.
so just to be sure i follow, is my picture correct? the 2 white wires move and the black goes in the same spot but with a new 120v breaker.
 

Attachments

WeedFreak78

Well-Known Member
sure do! called a few electricians they all said the same thing, best not to play around with it, we can come out and have a quick look for you.... not gonna pay for something i could prob do myself and definitely not letting some stranger into my room.
so just to be sure i follow, is my picture correct? the 2 white wires move and the black goes in the same spot but with a new 120v breaker.
You got it.
 

joey green

Well-Known Member
ok well im not dead and my fan seems to run like usual, so i think all went well changing the breaker. gonna get a meter to test it before running anything heavy duty. Got pretty lucky to, had 2 extra 15amp 120's sitting on top of the box all covered in dust, prob the ones my electrician removed to put in that weird dual breaker, anyway @WeedFreak78 & @AKGrowAreo thanks for helping me solve this issue, i woulda been in a shitty situation without those extra watts.
Cheers!
 

joey green

Well-Known Member
i just got a new tip for my ph meter and last night i whipped up a fresh nute soup, ended up adding too much ph down and dropped to 4.3, using tap water i got it back up to 5.3, then today i go to check the ph to see if it changed and its sitting at 7... wtf. is my meter not working right or does ph change over night like that?
I never check during the week unless i add water.
After adjusting with water i prob used 60L of tap water and i added:
180ml cns17 bloom
120ml of sweet
100ml of liquid karma
2tsp growtek monster bloom
30ml sm90
1000ppm total
i added 120ml of ph down to this.
i feel like i remember reading botanicare has an issue holding ph or something..
 

AKGrowAreo

Well-Known Member
i just got a new tip for my ph meter and last night i whipped up a fresh nute soup, ended up adding too much ph down and dropped to 4.3, using tap water i got it back up to 5.3, then today i go to check the ph to see if it changed and its sitting at 7... wtf. is my meter not working right or does ph change over night like that?
I never check during the week unless i add water.
After adjusting with water i prob used 60L of tap water and i added:
180ml cns17 bloom
120ml of sweet
100ml of liquid karma
2tsp growtek monster bloom
30ml sm90
1000ppm total
i added 120ml of ph down to this.
i feel like i remember reading botanicare has an issue holding ph or something..
Sounds like a bunk meter to me... Or there could be some algae issues going on. What is the temp in your res, and is there any light getting into the res?
 

joey green

Well-Known Member
Sounds like a bunk meter to me... Or there could be some algae issues going on. What is the temp in your res, and is there any light getting into the res?
ya i think the meter is faulty, it doesnt seem to hold the calibration long and the temp does not display, i let it sit in ph7 solution, heard it can recharge the node but i should prob jus return it since i cant check temps. i do have some light that gets to the water but i dont see any algae issues, guess i should find a way to block the light, roots were nice and white for the first 2 weeks then i added liquid karma and now roots look like shit, turned them brown... i got more ph down and went to fix it last night and found the ph at 5.8, i just calibrated the meter so im confident its a correct reading.
guy at the shop said ph changes daily.. is this true? he told me about a product called Z9, two parts $35 each bottle, said if u add a bit to the res it holds the ph almost perfect for about a week.
 

AKGrowAreo

Well-Known Member
ya i think the meter is faulty, it doesnt seem to hold the calibration long and the temp does not display, i let it sit in ph7 solution, heard it can recharge the node but i should prob jus return it since i cant check temps. i do have some light that gets to the water but i dont see any algae issues, guess i should find a way to block the light, roots were nice and white for the first 2 weeks then i added liquid karma and now roots look like shit, turned them brown... i got more ph down and went to fix it last night and found the ph at 5.8, i just calibrated the meter so im confident its a correct reading.
guy at the shop said ph changes daily.. is this true? he told me about a product called Z9, two parts $35 each bottle, said if u add a bit to the res it holds the ph almost perfect for about a week.
The Humic Acid (Liquid Karma) will definitely dye the roots, but damn its good shit. My plants love it. I would not run "organic" nutes without the Humic acid. Organic is in "" cause botanicare is not true organic, but its close enough, lol.

PH can change daily if you don't have the proper nute level for that particular strain. This is because the plants will drink more water than they eat food or vice versa, so as the water level lowers the PPM gets higher or lower, which will usually also make your PH go up or down. It is achievable to dial in a strain to a point that it eats food and water at the same rate and you will have much more stable PH. For instance my Trinity Kush LOVES food and is happiest when I run the nute level at 2300 PPM, and yes, I know thats super high, but the Trin ladies loves it. If I PH to 5.8 and PPM to 2300 they will drink about 5 gallons of water per day and the PPM will stay the same, as will the PH even because they ate the same amount as they drank. If the nute level is higher than that they would drink more water than they ate food and the nute level would rise, as would the PH. On the other end if the PPM was lower than stated above, then they would eat more food than they drink water, so at the end of the day after they drank the 5 gallons the PPM would be lower than you started with and as would the PH. Make since? Another example, My Blackberry OG likes to have the food level at 900 ppm and if I go higher or lower than that my PPM and PH will be unstable. Dialing in your strain can take years, but I usually have a new strain dialed by harvest 2 or 3.
 

joey green

Well-Known Member
so i guess i should check ppm and ph daily, keep track of it and try to figure out how much they eat. im pretty sure i need to stay under 1200ppm, i burnt them last round. thanks for the info!
 

joey green

Well-Known Member
got a new problem (im on a roll here!) i have never had an issue cloning, i changed all my veg units to coolers like stink and now im not getting any roots, first set of clones sat for over 2 weeks with nothing, so i did my research, learnt to cut by a node which seem to pop roots faster, cut the tips of the fan leaves so the plant needs nutes sooner, i was able to increase humidity in my room and get it above 50% which was important, temps are around 70-80.
i got round 2 going now, its almost 2 weeks and still no roots. i tryed putting a clear plastic dome (plastic spinach container from grocery store) on top but its doesnt hold humidity inside. not sure if this is a factor but i have seedlings growing in the same unit so i added some supermax B1 to the water.
 

AKGrowAreo

Well-Known Member
got a new problem (im on a roll here!) i have never had an issue cloning, i changed all my veg units to coolers like stink and now im not getting any roots, first set of clones sat for over 2 weeks with nothing, so i did my research, learnt to cut by a node which seem to pop roots faster, cut the tips of the fan leaves so the plant needs nutes sooner, i was able to increase humidity in my room and get it above 50% which was important, temps are around 70-80.
i got round 2 going now, its almost 2 weeks and still no roots. i tryed putting a clear plastic dome (plastic spinach container from grocery store) on top but its doesnt hold humidity inside. not sure if this is a factor but i have seedlings growing in the same unit so i added some supermax B1 to the water.
May just be the strain. I have seen some strains wait a month to pop, but they eventually did and they were great plants. My understanding is that the "woodier" strains take longer...
 

joey green

Well-Known Member
May just be the strain. I have seen some strains wait a month to pop, but they eventually did and they were great plants. My understanding is that the "woodier" strains take longer...
guess ill wait it out and see how long it takes then. hopefully soon! i got a perpetual cycle im trying to pull off here lol
 

WeedFreak78

Well-Known Member
got a new problem (im on a roll here!) i have never had an issue cloning, i changed all my veg units to coolers like stink and now im not getting any roots, first set of clones sat for over 2 weeks with nothing, so i did my research, learnt to cut by a node which seem to pop roots faster, cut the tips of the fan leaves so the plant needs nutes sooner, i was able to increase humidity in my room and get it above 50% which was important, temps are around 70-80.
i got round 2 going now, its almost 2 weeks and still no roots. i tryed putting a clear plastic dome (plastic spinach container from grocery store) on top but its doesnt hold humidity inside. not sure if this is a factor but i have seedlings growing in the same unit so i added some supermax B1 to the water.
I just watched this video on cloning. Figured out some of the things I was doing wrong. Mainly nutes to soon stopping root formation. Is got some good info in it.
 
Top