Harvest a Pound Every Three Weeks!

batrgrower

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Okay guys, I need some help here. My veg res was about 2 weeks old so I decided to do a change.

Before I changed it, my plant was in 300ppm nutrient solution, I'm using botanicare pure blend pro line. She was looking really good and healthy.

She is in week 5 of veg so I thought I'd bump the ppm up to 400-450. After doing that and then adjusting ph down to 5.8 the ppm went up to 550 (does ph down affect ppm that much), but all in all everything was up and running good.

This morning, the res water is 550 ppm, ph is 5.9 and 60 degrees but she wasn't looking so good, pretty droopy. I have attached pics.

Is this the effect of too high ppm, or could it just be the res change stressing her out some?
 

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batrgrower

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After researching a little more I'm thinking maybe the new res water may have been too cold for her.

The water before the change had been around 68-71 or so. The new water was probably in the low to mid 50's when I put her back in there and this morning it was 60.

I wasn't even thinking about the water temperature being a problem.

What steps can I take to rectify this problem? Will she be able to bounce back if I get the water heated up?
 

420Barista

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the sudden change might have shocked her.

to avoid this have a spare sanitized res fillled a day or 2 b4 you do the change and the standing temps shouldnt be a problem.

your plant there looks good though.
 

batrgrower

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the sudden change might have shocked her.

to avoid this have a spare sanitized res fillled a day or 2 b4 you do the change and the standing temps shouldnt be a problem.

your plant there looks good though.
You think that as the res temp naturally heats up that she will recover? Or do I need to take some drastic measures to get things corrected?
 

disbeverk

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You think that as the res temp naturally heats up that she will recover? Or do I need to take some drastic measures to get things corrected?
Nah man, they're fine. They're still healthy looking plants, just let the res temp climb back up on it's own, they'll be fine. Don't go changing more things on them and exacerbating your problem.
 

batrgrower

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Nah man, they're fine. They're still healthy looking plants, just let the res temp climb back up on it's own, they'll be fine. Don't go changing more things on them and exacerbating your problem.
Okay, that sounds good. I'll ride it out and see how she turns out.

Things have been going so smoothly with her so this problem really had me concerned.

I'll post back when I have an update.
 

disbeverk

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Okay, so I went in to check her progress. Her leaves are starting to curl inwards now.

I'm really starting to worry she won't be able to recover from this.
Slow down homie, she's going to be alright. The leaves are dying off from the damage already done, not something new you need to battle. She will recover, and be ok.

Couple quips though... what's up w/ that humidity bruh? def not helping. Your leaves are tacoing up like heat stress from the low humidity. I'm sure it also contributed to those leaves crisping up.

What lights are you running? You'll want to insulate the top of the res to stop light/heat from getting in. Keep an eye on the roots and make sure they stay healthy, and stay on top of your res temps.
 

batrgrower

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Slow down homie, she's going to be alright. The leaves are dying off from the damage already done, not something new you need to battle. She will recover, and be ok.

Couple quips though... what's up w/ that humidity bruh? def not helping. Your leaves are tacoing up like heat stress from the low humidity. I'm sure it also contributed to those leaves crisping up.

What lights are you running? You'll want to insulate the top of the res to stop light/heat from getting in. Keep an eye on the roots and make sure they stay healthy, and stay on top of your res temps.
Man, that humidity is something I've been battling from the start. I've got the room sealed up with panda film (although I'm sure air is escaping/entering from all kinds of cracks and crevices, I didn't get the room air tight) except for a bathroom vent fan in the ceiling and I'm running a humidifier in there nonstop. Some days it will get up to 25%-30% and other days it'll be down in the teens.

It has started to get really cold where I live outside and I think because of that the humidity has significantly dropped. I'm thinking I might need to get a humidifier with higher output, that's something I've been looking into.

I'm running a 4 bulb T5. I had wondered at the start if the light getting into the top of the lid was going to be a problem but one of the guys, superstoner, was a big part of this thread a couple years ago and he insisted the yellow lids weren't a problem. My res temps have never gotten above 70-71 even when the room is 76-79.

Everything is looking better this morning, she's standing up better and looking like she'll recover. But, you're right those other leaves are going to be dying off. I'll keep updates periodically on progress.

Thanks for everyone's input.
 

mountain dweller

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Hey I built one like Stinks OG design and Using Botanicare nutes with the 18 gal. res and when I pull my pots up to check the roots they have a lot of muddy looking build up on the roots. it rinses off.I just wondered if that was normal for those nutes?
 

batrgrower

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Hey I built one like Stinks OG design and Using Botanicare nutes with the 18 gal. res and when I pull my pots up to check the roots they have a lot of muddy looking build up on the roots. it rinses off.I just wondered if that was normal for those nutes?
I have not noticed any "muddy" buildup. The liquid karma does start to stain the roots a brownish color though.
 

mountain dweller

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No it just like organic solids building up, just on the bundles of roots...... Ill snap a pic later . Its just the solids basically getting trapped in the crevises of the root bundle. You can rinse it and the roots look fine. Just wondered if thats normal for the Botanicare nutrients
 

StinkBud

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No it just like organic solids building up, just on the bundles of roots...... Ill snap a pic later . Its just the solids basically getting trapped in the crevises of the root bundle. You can rinse it and the roots look fine. Just wondered if thats normal for the Botanicare nutrients
Yea, Liquid Karma causes the roots to turn brown and it leaves a coffee-stain like residue. If the roots look grey and slimy then you have root rot. Brown is fine...
 
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