Harvest a Pound Every Three Weeks!

joneric1014 · Dec 2, 2008

Hi guys!

Sorry for the wall of text, but Im trying to give all the information needed to answer my questions:

So I'm moving into my new house in 2 weeks, and its got this awesome invisible room already built right into it, complete with a hidden / secret room with a hidden/secret security door. When I saw it, I immediately thought "GROW ROOOOOOM!!!" and did a little dance inside! Its seriously large enough to replicate AL B Fucts grow in its entirety too, roughly 18 feet long and 15 feet wide, with a large walk in closet in the back, which is also almost hidden as well. I swear its almost a secret room inside a secret room.

My wife however, wasn't so thrilled about a grow room. After much discussion, a lot of whining on my part, and a couple of fights, it was decided. I can use the walk in closet in the room to build grow boxes out of a couple of armoirs, as long as they look stealth as hell, and stash them in the closet of the hidden room.

We all know how the wife always wins too, so thats what I get to play with. 2 Armoires, and frankly, Im glad to have that, and surprised as hell I actually got it.

Now Ive already built the first one, labled Set A below, and set up a couple of plants to practice cloning on, until I got it right. I am reliably able to clone now, and so, on the cusp of my move, am about to get ready to grab another armoire off of craigslist and build out my flower box.

I have established control of the temperature and humidity in the A box, and expect to be able to get pretty close to the temps in Set B when its built. (I experimented with the first armoire and the HPS to make sure it would work temperature-wise before I started.)

I am growing a strain from Nirvana called Supergirl, and after running a couple of test plants, have established she will get 1 meter tall at 2 months Veg, and be bushy as hell. I have not flowered any as of yet. This plant was designed to grow very short, be very bushy, and yield high in a hydroponic environment. Here is the link: http://www.nirvana-shop.com/supergirl-seeds-p-170.html

My goal is to be able to harvest around an ounce per plant (roughly), for 6 ounces total, once a month, SoG style. I built RubberMade Reservoirs with 6 3" Net Pots in the tops of them to DWC grow 6 plants per Reservoir.

I smoke about an ounce a week, so I figure that gives me a little room, and I can dump excess buds off to my grand mother in law whos battling cancer, and who just started smoking to combat chemo therapy nausia.

Id like you experienced cats to take a look at my little Paint drawing here if you would please, and offer me any tips or advice you might have. I am a Marine Biologist who works in a lab for a living, so Im sort of obsessed with perfecting my process, and have my PH, Lights, and TDS in order.

Thanks in advance for your help.

1) Should I Scrog my flowers or Lollipop?
2) Can I take the bottom 1/3 of plants from my Veg stage (5) and trim them off and use them as clones (3) on the day I move stage (5) to stage (6)?
3) If I can clone a plant from (5), can I then use one of those clones as a new mother when the old one is ready to get dumped into the flower room? How long can this be done?
4) Any problem alternating strains every time I send a new batch of clones down the conveyor belt?
5) Whats the potential harvest in this set up? Am I going to meet my target of 1 ounce per plant if I practice hard and stay dedicated?

Thanks!

-Joneric

DragonPhoenix · Dec 2, 2008

joneric1014 said:
Hi guys!

Sorry for the wall of text, but Im trying to give all the information needed to answer my questions:

So I'm moving into my new house in 2 weeks, and its got this awesome invisible room already built right into it, complete with a hidden / secret room with a hidden/secret security door. When I saw it, I immediately thought "GROW ROOOOOOM!!!" and did a little dance inside! Its seriously large enough to replicate AL B Fucts grow in its entirety too, roughly 18 feet long and 15 feet wide, with a large walk in closet in the back, which is also almost hidden as well. I swear its almost a secret room inside a secret room.

My wife however, wasn't so thrilled about a grow room. After much discussion, a lot of whining on my part, and a couple of fights, it was decided. I can use the walk in closet in the room to build grow boxes out of a couple of armoirs, as long as they look stealth as hell, and stash them in the closet of the hidden room.

We all know how the wife always wins too, so thats what I get to play with. 2 Armoires, and frankly, Im glad to have that, and surprised as hell I actually got it.

Now Ive already built the first one, labled Set A below, and set up a couple of plants to practice cloning on, until I got it right. I am reliably able to clone now, and so, on the cusp of my move, am about to get ready to grab another armoire off of craigslist and build out my flower box.

I have established control of the temperature and humidity in the A box, and expect to be able to get pretty close to the temps in Set B when its built. (I experimented with the first armoire and the HPS to make sure it would work temperature-wise before I started.)

I am growing a strain from Nirvana called Supergirl, and after running a couple of test plants, have established she will get 1 meter tall at 2 months Veg, and be bushy as hell. I have not flowered any as of yet. This plant was designed to grow very short, be very bushy, and yield high in a hydroponic environment. Here is the link: http://www.nirvana-shop.com/supergirl-seeds-p-170.html

My goal is to be able to harvest around an ounce per plant (roughly), for 6 ounces total, once a month, SoG style. I built RubberMade Reservoirs with 6 3" Net Pots in the tops of them to DWC grow 6 plants per Reservoir.

I smoke about an ounce a week, so I figure that gives me a little room, and I can dump excess buds off to my grand mother in law whos battling cancer, and who just started smoking to combat chemo therapy nausia.

Id like you experienced cats to take a look at my little Paint drawing here if you would please, and offer me any tips or advice you might have. I am a Marine Biologist who works in a lab for a living, so Im sort of obsessed with perfecting my process, and have my PH, Lights, and TDS in order.

Thanks in advance for your help.

1) Should I Scrog my flowers or Lollipop?
2) Can I take the bottom 1/3 of plants from my Veg stage (5) and trim them off and use them as clones (3) on the day I move stage (5) to stage (6)?
3) If I can clone a plant from (5), can I then use one of those clones as a new mother when the old one is ready to get dumped into the flower room? How long can this be done?
4) Any problem alternating strains every time I send a new batch of clones down the conveyor belt?
5) Whats the potential harvest in this set up? Am I going to meet my target of 1 ounce per plant if I practice hard and stay dedicated?

Thanks!

-Joneric

Looks like you've put quite a bit of time, effort and thought into this. In your own best interest I would post this as a thread of its own as not too much pertains to this thread. I feel you would receive better feedback that way. Good luck with everything.

DP

DragonPhoenix · Dec 2, 2008

peaceb2usall said:
I was discussing this method with my friend Pedro and he believes he can get a 2.5 lbs from 30 plants in soil, does that sound right?

What are the main benefits of stinks system versus soil and what are the usual time frames for each method i.e soil vs aero?

Thanks for any feedback guys.

Off the top of my head here ya go

Soil - slow growth, pain to take clones, easy to grow - water every couple of days
Aero - super fast growth, super easy to take clones, requires more attention - need to watch plants more, check on res, etc.

DP

wannabe grower · Dec 2, 2008

I think this thread should be titled, "How to grow a pound every three weeks and get busted and sent to state penetentiary in the U.S.". It's fine to grow so much in other countries that are lax in their enforcement, but in countries with strict policies against cultivation don't you think it's unwise to grow that much? Of course it's always been a state of "caveat emptor", or let the buyer beware. If you're Tyrone the grower from Detroit, MI and you don't care about rules...have at it! If, however, you are John Smith, from Anywhere USA, I'm pretty sure you don't want any pork knocking on you door anytime soon to check your "premises" on a hot tip from the interent.

repvip · Dec 2, 2008

wannabe grower said:
I think this thread should be titled, "How to grow a pound every three weeks and get busted and sent to state penetentiary in the U.S.". It's fine to grow so much in other countries that are lax in their enforcement, but in countries with strict policies against cultivation don't you think it's unwise to grow that much? Of course it's always been a state of "caveat emptor", or let the buyer beware. If you're Tyrone the grower from Detroit, MI and you don't care about rules...have at it! If, however, you are John Smith, from Anywhere USA, I'm pretty sure you don't want any pork knocking on you door anytime soon to check your "premises" on a hot tip from the interent.

You should have read the thread before posting... you'd think something like that may have already been covered in the previous 114 pages...

joneric1014 · Dec 2, 2008

Wow, kicked out of the SoG thread. Awesome!

Ill come back when Im harvesting for profit instead of personal use I guess, sorry to bother such big fish with my trivial SoG setup questions.

-J

andyman · Dec 2, 2008

wannabe grower said:
I think this thread should be titled, "How to grow a pound every three weeks and get busted and sent to state penetentiary in the U.S.". It's fine to grow so much in other countries that are lax in their enforcement, but in countries with strict policies against cultivation don't you think it's unwise to grow that much? Of course it's always been a state of "caveat emptor", or let the buyer beware. If you're Tyrone the grower from Detroit, MI and you don't care about rules...have at it! If, however, you are John Smith, from Anywhere USA, I'm pretty sure you don't want any pork knocking on you door anytime soon to check your "premises" on a hot tip from the interent.

I dont think anyone here is really serious , we all just talk like we would grow if we could. This site is were us pot heads go to talk about our fishing trip and how BIG the one that got away was. This is all just all fake, to give the feds something to do, right. :twisted:

But really if the feds wanted you they would probley just come and get you. were all probly allready all on a big redflag list anyway just for even typing the word grow and weed in the same sentence. Or we could all be redflaged or something just for even clicking on this sight. or leaving the message you just left. Unless we all did it from the computers at the library. There are so many thousands of people to worry about more important than a few people growing for med & to have some left over.

Im a pretty parinoid person and the internet bothers me about this, but there are so many people doing it. Just look how many views this thread has had in a few months. The fedz probly have better things to do with our country allways talking terror stuff to.
just my 2 worth of babble and im baked so? :joint:

Scooter93105 · Dec 2, 2008

Check this http://www.aquacave.com/eco-plus-dual-digitalbr-plug-in-timer-997.html

It seems to support a minimum on-time of 1 minute. There is no mention of the off-time intervals available - I assume it could go off for 5 minutes if it can go on for 1 minute? It seems like a match made in heaven with the Eco-Plus pumps.

I don't know why I decided to jump in here on this post. I've read it through more than once and finally got around to saying something... I am currently building my Aero units, preparing the space, and purchasing equipment. I came across this timer in my search for parts. Will it work guys? The sub $20 price is right.

As this is my first post (to the forum and this thread), I want to take a couple lines to thank you, Stink! You are the man. We all appreciate your help and your motivation - and patience! I can't thank you enough for sharing your method with us all. Keep up the good work.

PS - Thanks to all of you for making this thread happen. I have learned much! I plan to have my first StinkAero batch in between Jan 1 and Jan 15, I look forward to sharing my setup too, when I have all in order.

SVINIAR · Dec 2, 2008

Scooter93105 said:
Check this http://www.aquacave.com/eco-plus-dual-digitalbr-plug-in-timer-997.html

It seems to support a minimum on-time of 1 minute. There is no mention of the off-time intervals available - I assume it could go off for 5 minutes if it can go on for 1 minute? It seems like a match made in heaven with the Eco-Plus pumps.

From that website..
EcoPlus 15 Amp Grounded Digital Plug-In Timer.
Eco Plus timer features the ability to switch power on and off up to six times per 24 hour day.

Only 6 times a day wont work. needs to be a constant 1 min on/4-5 min off.

westmich · Dec 2, 2008

wannabe grower said:
I think this thread should be titled, "How to grow a pound every three weeks and get busted and sent to state penetentiary in the U.S.". It's fine to grow so much in other countries that are lax in their enforcement, but in countries with strict policies against cultivation don't you think it's unwise to grow that much? Of course it's always been a state of "caveat emptor", or let the buyer beware. If you're Tyrone the grower from Detroit, MI and you don't care about rules...have at it! If, however, you are John Smith, from Anywhere USA, I'm pretty sure you don't want any pork knocking on you door anytime soon to check your "premises" on a hot tip from the interent.

Please read the beginning of this thread - Stinkbud is a legal grower who supplies herb to cancer patients and such.

How many grams are OK to grow in your world? At what point do you get to say it is cool because "that's how much I grow" and at what point do you get to judge someone else's behavior as immoral? Should I get to pass judgment on you because I have yet to harvest anything? Should Stinkbud get to pass judgment on the guy who started a thread about growing 20 pounds a month?

StinkBud · Dec 2, 2008

joneric1014 said:
Wow, kicked out of the SoG thread. Awesome!

Ill come back when Im harvesting for profit instead of personal use I guess, sorry to bother such big fish with my trivial SoG setup questions.

-J

Most of your questions have already been answered in the thread.

Dragon wasn't trying to be rude. He wasn't kicking you out. You are more than welcome to hang out with us. It's not that we don't want to help but we are running a different system and are concentrating on specific questions pertaining to it.

You will also see that our system is not your typical SOG type of setup. We use EZ-Clone sprayers for everything. The flower system is an Aero/NFT system. All organic nutes. 3 week perpetual harvest. It's all in the thread.

All the plans, photos, instructions, parts lists, tool lists and many other cool things are available in this post. I teach you how to make the cloner, veg unit and flower system. It's getting to be a huge thread but worth the read.

Please don't be offended but Dragon is right. You would be better off with your own thread. Or better yet read the whole thread and join us all in the grow experience of a lifetime.

We are all friends here!

StinkBud · Dec 2, 2008

peaceb2usall said:
I was discussing this method with my friend Pedro and he believes he can get a 2.5 lbs from 30 plants in soil, does that sound right?

What are the main benefits of stinks system versus soil and what are the usual time frames for each method i.e soil vs aero?

Thanks for any feedback guys.

The outdoor soil growers around here get a pound per plant every season!

If you veg any plant long enough you will get a huge harvest.

Some people are actually better off with soil. My system is kind of loud when the water is running. Sounds like a mini waterfall when all my pumps are running! I love the sound but It's not exactly stealth if you know what I mean.

wannabe grower · Dec 2, 2008

You know what, to the balless person who gave me negative rep for posting on this thread, grow 1000000000000000 pounds if you want, I don't give a fuck. For most of us, growing that much is gonna get us a bunch of trouble. Maybe you're lucky enough to be able to grow massive amounts, good for you. The rest of you who want to grow a ton of weed illegally, suffer any consequences that you might incur. I was trying to instill a bit of common sense into people who might be charmed by this site and think they can grow as much as they want to. I am seriously pissed at the fucking pussy who neg repped me "ANONYMOUSLY". Wow, you must truly be a great grower and cultivator of this fine plant. I hope you're proud of yourself.

Scooter93105 · Dec 2, 2008

to be true - thanks for setting me straight.

dspec · Dec 2, 2008

StinkBud said:
The outdoor soil growers around here get a pound per plant every season!

If you veg any plant long enough you will get a huge harvest.

Some people are actually better off with soil. My system is kind of loud when the water is running. Sounds like a mini waterfall when all my pumps are running! I love the sound but It's not exactly stealth if you know what I mean.

i love the sound the cloner makes...i cant wait to hear my aero/nft =D my room is taking forever though...

peaceb2usall · Dec 2, 2008

wannabe grower said:
I think this thread should be titled, "How to grow a pound every three weeks and get busted and sent to state penetentiary in the U.S.". It's fine to grow so much in other countries that are lax in their enforcement, but in countries with strict policies against cultivation don't you think it's unwise to grow that much? Of course it's always been a state of "caveat emptor", or let the buyer beware. If you're Tyrone the grower from Detroit, MI and you don't care about rules...have at it! If, however, you are John Smith, from Anywhere USA, I'm pretty sure you don't want any pork knocking on you door anytime soon to check your "premises" on a hot tip from the interent.

Is there really anyone here that doesn't understand that possessing a pound of Marijuana would be unwise in country such as the USA with its ultra over policing and policy makers?

If it makes you feel better perhaps just do what 'they' tell you and go about your business of keeping all the laws of your country / state, there's a good boy.

The rest of here believe in thinking for yourself and not believing the false lies and bs the government spews forth. :wall:

Please find other threads, as this one doesn't need you, sorry.

repvip said:
You should have read the thread before posting... you'd think something like that may have already been covered in the previous 114 pages...

beta0701 · Dec 2, 2008

wannabe grower said:
I think this thread should be titled, "How to grow a pound every three weeks and get busted and sent to state penetentiary in the U.S.". It's fine to grow so much in other countries that are lax in their enforcement, but in countries with strict policies against cultivation don't you think it's unwise to grow that much? Of course it's always been a state of "caveat emptor", or let the buyer beware. If you're Tyrone the grower from Detroit, MI and you don't care about rules...have at it! If, however, you are John Smith, from Anywhere USA, I'm pretty sure you don't want any pork knocking on you door anytime soon to check your "premises" on a hot tip from the interent.

Growing weed is illegal in the United States?????

You cant sell it either??????

Damn......

Well now that i know that im just going to cut down all my plants!

Thanks for the tip kid, you saved my life :weed:

wannabe grower · Dec 2, 2008

Whatever, you guys obviously have it all figured out. Hopefully none of you need to phone me for bail money cuz I will be unsympathetic. Peace, hopefully your ideals never see the light of day while the rest of society exists or you will be totally fucked. I'm off this topic as you all are much better persons than me obviously. Have a wonderful day.

peaceb2usall · Dec 2, 2008

Ok guys I know we're all getting into this with negative guy, I must admit I jumped on in as well. Perhaps we could just ignore all of his posts until he has something positive to say or perhaps communicates in a way that doesn't completely piss off the entire user base

BigBud66 · Dec 2, 2008

Dude, dont be a dick. We are all grown ups and know what the risks are, now if you have some input on growing then thats all fine, but if your going to be vulgar , then you should move along, like Stinkbud said we are all friends here. Take a hit and relax.

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