Harvest a Pound Every Three Weeks!

10 days into first veg, clones are starting to pop some good roots. I just wanted to say the botanicare nutes are unbelievable I was getting leaf curl from some ph issues and even had stretching and some yellowing starting using Earth's juice and then my nutes arrive 2 days ago and I cleaned and changed the res out. Bam!!! 2days later yellowing almost gone and the plant are about 9 inches. not great but the next batch will be better and I think these will bounce back in time to give me a heck of a lot more bud than my soil SOG was doing

I can't thank StinkBud enough for keeping simple enough that I had the confidence to try. Anyone out there on the bubble about starting out aero let me tell you it can be done.

A question to the group I have a 400w HPS on a 4ft light mover in my grow room now I want a 1000W with a better reflector(ac) but moneys tight like everyone else.
I have a 1000w MH ballast

My Question is Buy a Conversion bulb (high rent) or flower for a while with MH?

This is going on what SB said about 1000wMH always better than 400wHPS

Stink, with everything factored in, what is the total cost per harvest $ wise.

human8 said:

my Art Dne timer decided it would stop working in the middle of the night. My luck. Lost half my cuts, are there any more reliable cycle timers than this fudgy little thing?

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Did you notice the small "Day, Night, Both" switch?
It must be set to "Both". It has a nifty photo sensor. Could be the reason it costs so much! I'm sure you saw it. But it is SMALL

I noticed it is very sensitive to vibration also.

Just catching up on this great thread!

Milton

Skinflute said:

Hello Everyone,
Has been 3 weeks and is time to change out the nutes in the Veg unit. I still have 1 galon jug with 1/4 full of nutes. Can I still use these nutes or should I make a fresh batch???
If 3 weeks is too long , what's a safe timeframe to use them up.

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I would help if i knew the right answer,,stink will comment im sure.

genfranco said:

well if you already bought it... then your like me... hehe... it doesnt do it bad... youll just be able to see in peoples pics.... lol... heat is allways an issue.
My summer grow is usually outdoors... but i did one indoors in june i beleave and it was hot as hell... but then again i grow in my garage...so kinda hard to cool it off.... my first grow was in a smaller space than that... like 3 feet wide 1 1/2 feet deep...If you grow with AC then your good.


Now i only use that cabinet for veg...

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On one of my very first indoor grows, well kind of indoor, was done in a garage. I say kind of indoor because a tornado had torn the roof off of the garage so it was open to the top. It had a dirt floor inside, so we dug it all up, added some pig manure, straw and dug it all in real well.

Then, planted lots of seed, spread it like you would grass seed, I mean like the lawn grass seed. I would open the garage doors during the day so that the south light could come in that way. As the year went on, I did not have to open the doors any longer because the sun was mostly overhead during the summer months.

About two weeks before harvest, we had a bad storm which took down the west wall right onto the plants. With no more security around the plants, it was past time to harvest. If anyone would have come onto the yard, they would be able to see my grow. Harvested a couple weeks early.

Ended up with 140 lbs of bud, leaf, seed and stems from a stall and a half garage without a roof. (in those days, we smoked or sold it all) The pot ranged from fantastic to something that best would have fed the cattle, but mostly it was smokeable. What was not smokeable by my standards still sold. At that time, pot sold for $10 a lid with some occasionally bringing as much as $15 a lid. This was back in 1962 to 1964 or somewhere in there. I was real happy and thought I was a regular weed baron. I guess that at the time, I probably was for my area.

Sorry, didn't mean to jack your thread, again, stinkbud, but I could not help it when I saw someone growing in their garage, it brought back memories, complete with music.

flabs

flabbyone said:

On one of my very first indoor grows, well kind of indoor, was done in a garage. I say kind of indoor because a tornado had torn the roof off of the garage so it was open to the top. It had a dirt floor inside, so we dug it all up, added some pig manure, straw and dug it all in real well.

Then, planted lots of seed, spread it like you would grass seed, I mean like the lawn grass seed. I would open the garage doors during the day so that the south light could come in that way. As the year went on, I did not have to open the doors any longer because the sun was mostly overhead during the summer months.

About two weeks before harvest, we had a bad storm which took down the west wall right onto the plants. With no more security around the plants, it was past time to harvest. If anyone would have come onto the yard, they would be able to see my grow. Harvested a couple weeks early.

Ended up with 140 lbs of bud, leaf, seed and stems from a stall and a half garage without a roof. (in those days, we smoked or sold it all) The pot ranged from fantastic to something that best would have fed the cattle, but mostly it was smokeable. What was not smokeable by my standards still sold. At that time, pot sold for $10 a lid with some occasionally bringing as much as $15 a lid. This was back in 1962 to 1964 or somewhere in there. I was real happy and thought I was a regular weed baron. I guess that at the time, I probably was for my area.

Sorry, didn't mean to jack your thread, again, stinkbud, but I could not help it when I saw someone growing in their garage, it brought back memories, complete with music.

flabs

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Ya sorry stinkbud, but this story is fucking crazy, and soooooooooo SICK, props to you man that is one of the best stories I have ever heard.

That reminds me of an idea I had a couple days ago. What if I use this system to veg the hell out of a few plants, like for a year, then flower them outside in a greenhouse, what kind of yield could I get per plant? A pound?

Check out these roots! The growth rate is insane!!

Thanks for everything StinkBud!

Been vegging for about 1.5 weeks and already have been sneaking a ton of clones! I'm not having good luck with cloning, yet. My cloner keeps getting infected with shit. I'm sure I'll get it down soon.

However, the veg reservoir has stayed solid! Had to top it off once and occassionally lower the pH from 6.0 to 5.8 maybe every 3-4 days so far. I am so freaking impressed!

Come on you stupid skunks! Hurry up and get out of my flower room! I'm tempted to machete that ish so I can start my systems but they are almost as tall as me

repvip said:

Check out these roots! The growth rate is insane!!

Thanks for everything StinkBud!

Been vegging for about 1.5 weeks and already have been sneaking a ton of clones! I'm not having good luck with cloning, yet. My cloner keeps getting infected with shit. I'm sure I'll get it down soon.

However, the veg reservoir has stayed solid! Had to top it off once and occassionally lower the pH from 6.0 to 5.8 maybe every 3-4 days so far. I am so freaking impressed!

Come on you stupid skunks! Hurry up and get out of my flower room! I'm tempted to machete that ish so I can start my systems but they are almost as tall as me

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looking great, i had a couple questions from you

what is your on/off watering time like?

what nutrients are you using?

are you using any root stimulants?

keep up the excellent work man!

Well i juss found out you have to buy a different timer for 4min on 1 min off.or the other way around i forget.WELL IM TO CHEAP.im gonna have my sprayers on 24-7.im coming from DWC(deep water culture) so i dont thinks its a problam. i have a timer for hte lights but its not the same.

happyface said:

Well i juss found out you have to buy a different timer for 4min on 1 min off.or the other way around i forget.WELL IM TO CHEAP.im gonna have my sprayers on 24-7.im coming from DWC(deep water culture) so i dont thinks its a problam. i have a timer for hte lights but its not the same.

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I have a timer that has little push down thingys. You can set it on/off at 15 minute intervals; that's a lot better than 24/7. Check em out; Eco Plus.

bobbyboy34 said:

looking great, i had a couple questions from you

what is your on/off watering time like?

what nutrients are you using?

are you using any root stimulants?

keep up the excellent work man!

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Thanks! I am using stink's system as close as I can.

1 min on/5 min off -- Cap ART-DNe timer.

Botanicare nutes.. same recipe as stink. ppm is currently ~2300.

Not using any root stimulators. If you look at the pic below, the center plant (and two directly behind it) were recently pulled from dirt and the roots coiled into the 2" net pots--few days later and root explosion! I'm wondering if I can use it to my advantage somehow.... it looks awesome! Who knows, maybe that much root mass suspended in the net pot is a bad idea? Might be a good location for root rot if water can sit up in there...

So would I be better with 2 1k cool tubes or 3 600w cooltubes? I was thinking that having one 600 watter per system might work well?

This is a great set up. I'm not in the right place to do that just yet but The next place I go will have to accommodate this system. currently use a hydroponics unit in a closet. It works for now
Thanks for all the teriffic stuff!

torrey420 said:

So would I be better with 2 1k cool tubes or 3 600w cooltubes? I was thinking that having one 600 watter per system might work well?

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If you have a choice--go with the 3 600watts for better coverage! I have 2 1000watts right now, and really wish I had gone with 3 600watts instead. It would have been a perfect fit in my case...

Oh, and if you do get cooltubes, don't get the shorter ones! Seems like I am always finding out the hard way.. anyway mine are only like 19" but if there are longer ones I think they would put out more light.. a lot of light from mine is shining down the ventilation!

EDIT: you can sort of see what I mean in this pic--if there were only an extra 1-2 inches on each side--would be so much better! The ventilation really cuts out alot of light.

I am on page 37 and reading till complete but i would like to ask a question that i dont beleive has been asked through at least pg 37. so hear it goes. I have room to due a 3 week harvest doing only 5 to 7 plants in a single row setup. The question i have is can i use the same res for the whole process or would i need three? not being cheap just have some spacing issues.

Just a quick tip...

If you are concerned about the noise coming from the Aero/NFT systems, i discovered an easy solution today on mine...if you cut the lid so that the flap that goes down, is pointing back towards the plants, the water will run down the side of the tote rather than splashing back down into the res...it is almost as quiet as the cloner now =D

potpimp said:

I have a timer that has little push down thingys. You can set it on/off at 15 minute intervals; that's a lot better than 24/7. Check em out; Eco Plus.

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dduuddee thats wat i have.i think 2 outlet eco plus. so u sayin 15 on an 15 off wouls be better? that wuld get too dry ?????

happyface said:

dduuddee thats wat i have.i think 2 outlet eco plus. so u sayin 15 on an 15 off wouls be better? that wuld get too dry ?????

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Botanicare recommends 1min 4min off...or a 1 to 4 ratio...there are many schools of thought on this though...some people leave their shit running all the time...some people start clones at 24/7 and taper them off durring flowering...

ive ran the pumps at 15min once per day, just in the trials for my room...and even then, the netcups stay pretty moist

i personally am gonna run mine for 15min on 45 off