Harvest a Pound Every Three Weeks!

Ok i have some question on lighting, seems i fell asleep during that part of class. Say i have a small grow space that i would be able to fit 3 single posts systems. I dont have any lights yet so i'm a fresh slate but on a very limited budget for now. So my question is how do you calculate lumens? I would like to have 2 600 watters eventually but cant swing it right now due to my budget. Should i pick up 4 of those $20 150 watters(first choice) or 1 600w right now? would 4-150w equal the 1-600w based on light output and light penetration? I could always incorporate the 150w's later as supplementary lighting if i went this way so it wouldn't be an issue of wasting my money on those but if there is a really big disadvantage with using them then i will just do the one 600w light. Thanks for your input.

StinkBud said:

The buds should be nice and dense. You will notice that the hairs are starting to turn orange/red.

You should have nice fat trichromes also. They will still be clear but after the two weeks of flush they should turn cloudy. Some may even turn amber.

Amber trichromes means it's time to harvest.

I bet you're getting excited bro!!! You will be the first to harvest with the StinkBud system.

Keep up the good work friend.

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Judging from your pics stink (in your album) it looks as though i may need to flower for an extra week ..I think?

remember i went from 24/7 lights in veg. so they probably took a little extra time to start.

so i guess i will just keep a sharp eye on them.

My mountain top retreat smells so sweet!!!

look i made a rhyme..

I will be so proud and thankfull to be the first pupil to turn in the homework assignment!!!!

ps...i got that 4th 600 watter up....yehawwww

dirth how many watts total are you running and how much bud you think your going to get off one setup

andyman said:

hey stinkbud Im lookn to order from dr cronic soon, didnt you say you ordered from them. ever heard of any problems gettin into the usa?
thanks
BIGGIE SMALL$37.50 1 $37.50 Blueberry regular$59.98 1 $59.98 Sensi - Afghan#1 $52.48 1 $52.48 World of Seeds Feminized Legend Collection Skunk 47 X 3 SEEDS$27.00 1 $27.00 Delivery$7.50 Total $184.46

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Hey andyman -
I've ordered quite a bit of seeds in the past few months and kept up on seedbanks etc. I can say that I've read of Dr Chronic not shipping to US recently and taking money and not delivering. I have no experience personally with Dr Chronic. I've ordered a large majority - about 80% of my seeds - from Attitude. I'd say I've received about 5 orders from Attitude. I love the company! I've also got seeds from BC Bud Depot but it took FOREVER.
My recommendation would be Attitude.

DP

hey this is brilliant !! THANK YOU !! (i needed a little help ) ( found it here ! )

dear mr stink bud - i think your whole system is brilliant - i am already anticipating your next post so thanks for sharing your knowledge !!!

DragonPhoenix said:

Hey andyman -
I've ordered quite a bit of seeds in the past few months and kept up on seedbanks etc. I can say that I've read of Dr Chronic not shipping to US recently and taking money and not delivering. I have no experience personally with Dr Chronic. I've ordered a large majority - about 80% of my seeds - from Attitude. I'd say I've received about 5 orders from Attitude. I love the company! I've also got seeds from BC Bud Depot but it took FOREVER.
My recommendation would be Attitude.

DP

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thanks dp I plan on ordering from attitude now since my cousin told me he orders from there too. and now hearing this from you reasures me. again thanks

justinsbigbuds said:

dirth how many watts total are you running and how much bud you think your going to get off one setup

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4-600 watters.

How much? Maybe a LB ..i really dont know,, but i am gonna find out soon.

latinrascal said:

Ok i have some question on lighting, seems i fell asleep during that part of class. Say i have a small grow space that i would be able to fit 3 single posts systems. I dont have any lights yet so i'm a fresh slate but on a very limited budget for now. So my question is how do you calculate lumens? I would like to have 2 600 watters eventually but cant swing it right now due to my budget. Should i pick up 4 of those $20 150 watters(first choice) or 1 600w right now? would 4-150w equal the 1-600w based on light output and light penetration? I could always incorporate the 150w's later as supplementary lighting if i went this way so it wouldn't be an issue of wasting my money on those but if there is a really big disadvantage with using them then i will just do the one 600w light. Thanks for your input.

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For sure go with the 600W light. Light is the single most import aspect of your grow.

Aeroponics has the potential to grow big plants quickly. The key is you have to have to address all the issues. Nutrients and O2 are just part of the equation. Light and CO2 are the others.

The same goes for light. You can keep adding lights until your blue in the face but when your plants use up all the CO2 in the room, they stop growing.

So it's important to understand the concept. The StinkBud method of growing address all aspects of the plants needs.

That's why I stress that light and CO2 are every bit as important as my Aero systems.

LionsRoor said:

Nice - love the Stinkbud9000! Where do you order those?

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I got it locally from a sign shop. The Binford Tools logo is from the show Home Improvement.

StinkBud said:

For sure go with the 600W light. Light is the single most import aspect of your grow.

Aeroponics has the potential to grow big plants quickly. The key is you have to have to address all the issues. Nutrients and O2 are just part of the equation. Light and CO2 are the others.

The same goes for light. You can keep adding lights until your blue in the face but when your plants use up all the CO2 in the room, they stop growing.

So it's important to understand the concept. The StinkBud method of growing address all aspects of the plants needs.

That's why I stress that light and CO2 are every bit as important as my Aero systems.

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Thanks for the reply SB. I would like to apologize for my ignorance in advance but can you tell me why you would choose the 1 600w over the 4 150w's? is it because they dont penetrate as deeply or is 150 watts only 150w meaning i dont add up the 4x150w=600w? I was thinking of the 4 150 because of how you were stating you would like 4 600w vs 2 1000w. I was thinking that the 4 150's spread out would be better then 1 600 centrally mounted. I am sure i am wrong in my thinking but if you can please educate me as to why?

latinrascal said:

Thanks for the reply SB. I would like to apologize for my ignorance in advance but can you tell me why you would choose the 1 600w over the 4 150w's? is it because they dont penetrate as deeply or is 150 watts only 150w meaning i dont add up the 4x150w=600w? I was thinking of the 4 150 because of how you were stating you would like 4 600w vs 2 1000w. I was thinking that the 4 150's spread out would be better then 1 600 centrally mounted. I am sure i am wrong in my thinking but if you can please educate me as to why?

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Lumens do not add up. A 600 watt bulb puts out more lumens than a 150 watt bulb.



Bigger bulbs can cover a larger area. Please see table below for a generic coverage;

1000 Watt 6' x 6'
600 Watt 4' x 5'
400 Watt 2' x 4'
250 Watt 2' x 3'
150 Watt 2' x 2'


The 600 watt will also penetrate the top canopy of leaves better due to being brighter.

So moral of the story, the plants will get more of what they need(lumens) with a 600 watt.

With the 4 150's could hit about a 2 x 8 space approximately.

I was wondering if the StinkBud System can be done at 1/4 scale. I have a small closet grow - actually a closet size bathroom with everything removed. It measures about 30" x 45" at the floor. I've got a simple closet grow going, but I am a big fan of this thread. I've considered doing the StinkBud System but it would require converting a room in the basement and a budget I don't have at the moment. However, can it be done in micro?

There are three principals that I think set the StinkBud System apart. I want my system to follow these:

• Aeroponics - water, air, and nutrients are applied directly to the bare roots
• Perpetual Grow - having a pre-defined harvest cycle at 3 weeks makes it ideal - I'd much rather get every 3 weeks than have to budget for every four months - the system can be scaled up and down based on the number of plants but the harvest will always be every three weeks (plus or minus based on nature of course)
• No Clone Mothers/Seeds

Here is what I've been thinking. Something like 5 shoe box size (roughly, a bit deeper) totes using DWC. These would be heavly airiated so I think it would still qualify on principal 1. Each tote would hold 3 plants and spend 3 weeks in each of 5 stations hoping to get a 1/4 pound each harvest. Each box would have 'plugs' hanging off of it so I could just hook them to alternate stations and not transfer the plants from box to box. I would also need to sub divide the room in some way. Maybe a box or a muck larger tote.

Just thinking it through now.

westmich said:

However, can it be done in micro?

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I had the idea of using little plastic toolboxes. It's such a small set-up that I don't think more than one plant would fit.

Actually, it's not so much about shrinking down his components to 1/4 scale, but to follow the principles of his system as I outlined above. I just measured a shoe box at 10" x 13" x 5" deep. I should be able to get 3 - 3" net pots about 5" from center to center. Hopefully I can find a tote a little deeper. It is Deep Water Culture with a lot of air. The top couple of inches of water just below the net pots will be almost foamy with air. I never actually done it but my understanding is that it is very efficient if not quite as efficient as NFT.

But hey, if there is a way to shrink down the components or make 2 sprayers and 3 NFTs fit into the room I am all for it.

mercilus said:

I was originally planning on going with a flood and drain system, but this post inspired me because my space/height is limited and this seems like I can modify it to fit better in my cabinet.

So after all returns were done on all the extra buckets I went to my local Lowes.

• They had 4x4 vinyl fence post covers but they had a coating on the inside that was beige and made it a little thicker than what i see in your pictures? Anyone know if this will complicate things like maybe give off bad chemicals in the water or something?

I will probably be doing three - three foot long posts to fit my space.

This will leave me 39 inches to the top of my cabinet. Minus some for the lighting of course. And yes, I have accounted for my resevoir already. I built a shelf in it that has my resevoir below it already so I just have to lay the Fence on top and thats how much space is left. So I may try a SCRoG grow to keep them short and bushy for my supports.

Anyways my biggest concern right now is getting the proper fence posts. If anyone can direct me to a good place to buy online or let me know that the stuff I am seeing at Lowes is safe. Why cant they just have the cheap thing PVC crap like everyone else uses lol =) have to get all fancy and fill them up to make them thicker!

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Hey I went to lowes and had that same problem. Those posts are very heavy and would be a problem. If Im correct you found them in the building supplys section by the wood. What you need to do is go to the lawn and garden section outside the store, they should have the same 4x4 vinyl posts out there only without that hard beigh crap inside. Just regular vinyl post. They are also cheaper so it all works out!

Well Stinbud I am finally starting to make your systems and have come to a issue and just want to make sure im correct.
I made your clone system with no problems at all and your PDF's were great!!
I made your veg unit also but came to a very slight issue, when your making the "H" for the sprayers.
The instuctions says to cut seven 7" pieces of PVC pipe, and the 10" piece also.
So since you have the 10" piece from the "H" extending through the tub that means that there is no leg there because there is no elbow. I just ended up with one extra 7" piece and just wanted to make sure I wasnt missin something here?

Jgoasnhja said:

Well Stinbud I am finally starting to make your systems and have come to a issue and just want to make sure im correct.
I made your clone system with no problems at all and your PDF's were great!!
I made your veg unit also but came to a very slight issue, when your making the "H" for the sprayers.
The instuctions says to cut seven 7" pieces of PVC pipe, and the 10" piece also.
So since you have the 10" piece from the "H" extending through the tub that means that there is no leg there because there is no elbow. I just ended up with one extra 7" piece and just wanted to make sure I wasnt missin something here?

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That's your stir stick....yea that's it...

It can also be used as a really fat straw for those extra thick milkshakes.

Sorry to post so quick again but had another question.
I was thinkin about your Aero/NFT system. (Flower system)
There was alot of ppl that were having problems with the roots growing out of the posts on the very end spot on the 4x4 post closest to the resivor. Everyone also seems to be very afraid to cut the roots, so I thought this could help.
Since the roots are so long when your taking the out of the veg unit and placing them in the flower unit, couldnt you position the roots on that last spot closest to the resivor to grow up the fence posts in the oppisite direction of the resivor.
This could resolve some stress of ppl thinking that cutting the roots would be harmful.

StinkBud said:

That's your stir stick....yea that's it...

It can also be used as a really fat straw for those extra thick milkshakes.

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Thats great!
Thanks man I know it was probally a common sence question, I just wanted to make sure everything was correct.

I couldnt believe how easy it was to make those systems for how perfect they are.
It was soo much fun too, Thanks again