Harvest - Yes or Not yet?

Lucky Luke

Lucky Luke

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This has gone way of track..

Nice grow.

About two weeks seems to be the consensus.

The last two weeks is when the buds put on the most weight. Feed it for this or starve it are your options. Science says one thing and stoner growing says another.
Either way ull get a nice haul.
 
Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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It's been established more than a few times that OP's plants have more time to finish. Not sure why he keeps asking but oh well. We have also established that t bag doesn't understand what flushing means and actually feeds till the end. Yes t bag, flushing is running large quantities of water, plain water btw, not 300-600 ppm's, through your media for the last couple of weeks. But carry on, not much happening today lol.
 
Jon E. Doe

Jon E. Doe

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Dr. Who posted a commonly referred to piece which is peer-reviewed, published, and from a top Ag school. It's so fucking commonly taught and referred to that a cut and paste of the opening put into any search will pull up the information. (Side note: People pay thousands to learn this factual information, they're called 'students')

How far off the path does one have to get to ignore the existence of well documented fact?

Conclusion: T-bag is only here for attention.

OP- As said, you're a little early. Keep your eyes on 'em, and avoid 'bro-science". You've grown them this far with good results. Stay the course.
 
Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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Here is another cool read, and op this has turned into another flush train wreck as it always does when asked "when do I start flushing" which you did lol. Even the guy that says flush does not flush. If you read some of these articles presented timing the finish becomes a mute point and there is no need for timing the flush.
http://www.cannabisbusinesstimes.com/article/to-flush-or--not-to-flush/
 
peracho

peracho

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[Q
UOTE="Lucky Luke, post: 13755958, member: 929603"]This has gone way of track..

Nice grow.

About two weeks seems to be the consensus.

The last two weeks is when the buds put on the most weight. Feed it for this or starve it are your options. Science says one thing and stoner growing says another.
Either way ull get a nice haul.[/QUOTE]

Thank you! thats all I was looking for lol
 
ismann

ismann

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I go by the trichs since it's full-proof. I like about a 50/50 milk and amber or a little less amber for me.

I'm starting to think flushing is a myth as well after reading the science behind it. Seems what everyone thinks flushing means is actually leeching and even then, seems to make no difference to me. I mainly followed UrbanRemo's vids on youtube when I first started growing since he's awesome and won a ton of cups. He still stands by leeching though but I noticed he changed from 2-4 weeks to just a week of no nutes. Who fuckin' knows... I just give plain water for the last week just because I don't think it really matters so I don't bother to mix in nutes for the last week.
 
Dr. Who

Dr. Who

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T-Bag said:
Ohh you guys believe that curing can turn chemed out weed into white smoking shit?? I added some micro in week 6 one time and that shit STILL burns black after 2 fucking years of curing. You guys are fucking delusional. You may say you dont flush but you do weather you want to admit it or not. You arent going to hit your plants in week 8 like you would in week 4 or 5. So what are you doing? Decreasing the amount of nutrients, FLUSHING! Argue all you want but I know from experience, you cant tell me those times I had chemed out weed that if I let it cure it will be just fine! BULLSHIT! You say Im stupid but you guys are delusional. Youre like hipsters, I was wearing a fedora before every fag was wearing one so Im the coolest! You guys arent looking to help this guy you just want to spew shit from your mouth. No one asked what nutes he was using or even medium you just spew out DONT FLUSH IT!!! PUT MICRO, NITRO AND SUGAR IN IT IN WEEK 8 GO FOR IT BUDDY! Im gonna be real and tell him hey dont cut it down until its yellowed out or your going to have problem cutting down a green as fuck plant ESPECIALLY if youre using synthetic fertilizer.
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I don't change the way I feed for the last weeks. Other then no Mg and K sulfate supplementing. I change nothing....

I don't even suggest a "flush" for an overage!
I never overfeed, so I never get "Chemed out" weed.....

The ash color has to do with sugar contents. It has nothing to do with nutrient chemicals.

I told you already......Flushing is not even possible by plant science.
Fading simply moves any "stored" nutrition TOO the part of the plant, your trying to remove it from.
 
Dr. Who

Dr. Who

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elfo777 said:
I have boveda packs and I burp, but one time I didn't and I didn't have any problems. Do you recharge your packs? If so, how?
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Simply place them on an unused root riot tray - Place that in the water tray, filled with about 1/2 a gallon of clean, clear water. Place that on a seedling heater mat and cover with the dome...regulate the heating mat to 90F.....Feel the Bovida's for the crystals that form in them to be gone. Once gone - done.... The big one's for 5 gallon pails take longer....
 
Dr. Who

Dr. Who

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T-Bag said:
I feel like you guys consider flushing running 3 times your containers volume in water at night or some shit. That does NOTHING. But running nutes at 300-600 ppm for the last 7-10 days is pretty standard unless you are growing in closet with CFL like I feel most of you are doing. When you step up to the big lights let me know. Im going to make a thread on flushing general hydroponics so I can watch you fuckers go nuts hah!
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T-Bag said:
Does being a troll make you good at growing weed? From experience I would say no... Iv grown weed and Iv been a troll on a forum and guess what gave me more experience in growing? Rolling crops ever fucking month.
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You're the troll sport.

T-Bag said:
So far I havent seen any of you guys talking shit post any pictures. Iv got pictures and Ill go take a video of my shit in flower stacking right now. So you guys can put up or shut up. I suggest you shut the fuck up and stick to growing chemed out lafy as nugs. Here again in 4 weeks Ill be taking pics next to 5 gallon buckets for scale. Meanwhile you guys wont post a single pic, my weed speaks for itself. I dont need to flap my gums and run my jaws I just need you to see what you could be doing.
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Nice set up.
Sadly your avatar pic says you harvest early and still don't reach potentials. The size of a bud from some strains looks nice but, you harvest early, starve them out for 2 weeks, and basically miss the boat on the plants real potential. The reason you have big buds is the strain you run, not so much your skill. Too bad.

Did you know that it's a fact that the lower buds if allowed to ripen past the first harvest of the mains, have a higher potency then your beloved main cola pic?

You want to see pics of my gear? Look around.
 
T-Bag

T-Bag

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Budley Doright said:
It's been established more than a few times that OP's plants have more time to finish. Not sure why he keeps asking but oh well. We have also established that t bag doesn't understand what flushing means and actually feeds till the end. Yes t bag, flushing is running large quantities of water, plain water btw, not 300-600 ppm's, through your media for the last couple of weeks. But carry on, not much happening today lol.
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You guys are nit picking on the term flush. Flush means flushing out the nutrients. I run water the last 2 days. Its also been proven that a light nutrient solution will pull more nutrients out of the medium than straight water. What do you think final flush is? Say what you will but you need to flush salts out of hydroponic grows. Iv read the article youve posted and it actually supports my theory more than yours buddy, my question is can you guys even read the articles you post? Like I said if anyone wants to smoke the nugs of unflushed weed I have Id love to watch you choke your ass off :D

"Particles in mineral and organic soils have negative electric charges, which, while small, are strong enough to attract and hold positively charged potassium, calcium and magnesium (ions) among others. Soilless and organic media have the ability to build up nutrient reserves in the media when the plant is given even small amounts in excess of its uptake capability. Those reserves can be drawn on if the plant is not nourished on schedule, but this characteristic of soilless and organic media also can contribute to a buildup of excessive levels of nutrients, which, if left untreated, can result in plants suffering nutrient toxicity at worst and water uptake reduction at best.

The proper reaction to high nutrient concentrations is flushing — used to keep roots and the plant safe from damage by excessive nutrient levels.

Because organic media particles are negatively charged, negatively charged nitrate nitrogen and phosphate ions are repelled from the particles and are the first nutrients to leave the root zone when a flush is applied. Without nitrogen in the root zone, the plant’s biological processes will be starved, and it will turn to scavenging and moving nitrogen, phosphorous and potassium (NPK) and magnesium from older tissue to the current growing points.

Although positively charged nutrients are attracted to the media particles, sufficient amounts of water will dissolve the nutrients off the media particles and remove them from the root zone. Because of the media particles’ propensity for holding nutrient ions, flushing leaves the root zone of an organic media with a hard-to-predict nutrient profile."
 
OrganicGorilla

OrganicGorilla

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T-Bag said:
You guys are nit picking on the term flush. Flush means flushing out the nutrients. I run water the last 2 days. Its also been proven that a light nutrient solution will pull more nutrients out of the medium than straight water. What do you think final flush is? Say what you will but you need to flush salts out of hydroponic grows. Iv read the article youve posted and it actually supports my theory more than yours buddy, my question is can you guys even read the articles you post? Like I said if anyone wants to smoke the nugs of unflushed weed I have Id love to watch you choke your ass off :D

"Particles in mineral and organic soils have negative electric charges, which, while small, are strong enough to attract and hold positively charged potassium, calcium and magnesium (ions) among others. Soilless and organic media have the ability to build up nutrient reserves in the media when the plant is given even small amounts in excess of its uptake capability. Those reserves can be drawn on if the plant is not nourished on schedule, but this characteristic of soilless and organic media also can contribute to a buildup of excessive levels of nutrients, which, if left untreated, can result in plants suffering nutrient toxicity at worst and water uptake reduction at best.

The proper reaction to high nutrient concentrations is flushing — used to keep roots and the plant safe from damage by excessive nutrient levels.

Because organic media particles are negatively charged, negatively charged nitrate nitrogen and phosphate ions are repelled from the particles and are the first nutrients to leave the root zone when a flush is applied. Without nitrogen in the root zone, the plant’s biological processes will be starved, and it will turn to scavenging and moving nitrogen, phosphorous and potassium (NPK) and magnesium from older tissue to the current growing points.

Although positively charged nutrients are attracted to the media particles, sufficient amounts of water will dissolve the nutrients off the media particles and remove them from the root zone. Because of the media particles’ propensity for holding nutrient ions, flushing leaves the root zone of an organic media with a hard-to-predict nutrient profile."
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Ya good cover buddy!! We all know what you really meant!! Retard
Your shitty weed tastes like shit because you don't cure properly!
 
SoOLED

SoOLED

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T-Bag said:
You guys are nit picking on the term flush. Flush means flushing out the nutrients. I run water the last 2 days. Its also been proven that a light nutrient solution will pull more nutrients out of the medium than straight water. What do you think final flush is? Say what you will but you need to flush salts out of hydroponic grows. Iv read the article youve posted and it actually supports my theory more than yours buddy, my question is can you guys even read the articles you post? Like I said if anyone wants to smoke the nugs of unflushed weed I have Id love to watch you choke your ass off :D

"Particles in mineral and organic soils have negative electric charges, which, while small, are strong enough to attract and hold positively charged potassium, calcium and magnesium (ions) among others. Soilless and organic media have the ability to build up nutrient reserves in the media when the plant is given even small amounts in excess of its uptake capability. Those reserves can be drawn on if the plant is not nourished on schedule, but this characteristic of soilless and organic media also can contribute to a buildup of excessive levels of nutrients, which, if left untreated, can result in plants suffering nutrient toxicity at worst and water uptake reduction at best.

The proper reaction to high nutrient concentrations is flushing — used to keep roots and the plant safe from damage by excessive nutrient levels.

Because organic media particles are negatively charged, negatively charged nitrate nitrogen and phosphate ions are repelled from the particles and are the first nutrients to leave the root zone when a flush is applied. Without nitrogen in the root zone, the plant’s biological processes will be starved, and it will turn to scavenging and moving nitrogen, phosphorous and potassium (NPK) and magnesium from older tissue to the current growing points.

Although positively charged nutrients are attracted to the media particles, sufficient amounts of water will dissolve the nutrients off the media particles and remove them from the root zone. Because of the media particles’ propensity for holding nutrient ions, flushing leaves the root zone of an organic media with a hard-to-predict nutrient profile."
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Particles in mineral and organic soils have negative electric charges, which, while small, are strong enough to attract and hold positively charged potassium, calcium and magnesium (ions) among others. Soilless and organic media have the ability to build up nutrient reserves in the media when the plant is given even small amounts in excess of its uptake capability. Those reserves can be drawn on if the plant is not nourished on schedule, but this characteristic of soilless and organic media also can contribute to a buildup of excessive levels of nutrients, which, if left untreated, can result in plants suffering nutrient toxicity at worst and water uptake reduction at best.

The proper reaction to high nutrient concentrations is flushing — used to keep roots and the plant safe from damage by excessive nutrient levels.

Because organic media particles are negatively charged, negatively charged nitrate nitrogen and phosphate ions are repelled from the particles and are the first nutrients to leave the root zone when a flush is applied. Without nitrogen in the root zone, the plant’s biological processes will be starved, and it will turn to scavenging and moving nitrogen, phosphorous and potassium (NPK) and magnesium from older tissue to the current growing points.



http://magazine.cannabisbusinesstimes.com/article/march-2016/to-flush-or--not-to-flush.aspx

LOL, poser

it was the first google result.. :::smh:::
 
T-Bag

T-Bag

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GrowGorilla said:
Ya good cover buddy!! We all know what you really meant!! Retard
Your shitty weed tastes like shit because you don't cure properly!
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SoOLED said:
Particles in mineral and organic soils have negative electric charges, which, while small, are strong enough to attract and hold positively charged potassium, calcium and magnesium (ions) among others. Soilless and organic media have the ability to build up nutrient reserves in the media when the plant is given even small amounts in excess of its uptake capability. Those reserves can be drawn on if the plant is not nourished on schedule, but this characteristic of soilless and organic media also can contribute to a buildup of excessive levels of nutrients, which, if left untreated, can result in plants suffering nutrient toxicity at worst and water uptake reduction at best.

The proper reaction to high nutrient concentrations is flushing — used to keep roots and the plant safe from damage by excessive nutrient levels.

Because organic media particles are negatively charged, negatively charged nitrate nitrogen and phosphate ions are repelled from the particles and are the first nutrients to leave the root zone when a flush is applied. Without nitrogen in the root zone, the plant’s biological processes will be starved, and it will turn to scavenging and moving nitrogen, phosphorous and potassium (NPK) and magnesium from older tissue to the current growing points.



http://magazine.cannabisbusinesstimes.com/article/march-2016/to-flush-or--not-to-flush.aspx

LOL, poser

it was the first google result.. :::smh:::
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That was from the article the guy I quoted posted stupid. The article supports what Im saying Im assuming he didnt read it... You guys are just ready to just on anything, jesus christ. Did you even read my post?
 
Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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Pretty sure we all got that at first you comments were not geared towards a 2 day flush seeing how op was thinking a week or two lol. Really what is a 2 day accomplishing? My comment about being an idiot was not about flushing, but about your stupid comment about indoor soil grows, even though I am all hydro indoors I would never say a soil grow was wrong. Now as for flushing, if yes, you actually read that article you will see that it says the nutes will move into the newer growth so what again is it accomplishing? As doc said, you are driving nutes to the place you think your helping. Really I don't give a hoot if people flush, I don't but if it makes the grower think they're doing a good thing carry on.
 
Flowki

Flowki

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After reading your comments, that setup screams out wane be pro bro grower who just got off the mlg 420 hype train via AN studios. Even if you can grow weed.. that does not exempt you from laughable practices, as you've already shown. The fact you try and use that setup (nothing special) as a means to slap dicks shows your level.

It's a good setup don't get me wrong, one of many types that work.. but your setup: ------ your ego: -------------------------------
 
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