HAS ANYBODY MADE THE MISTAKE OF FLOWERING TO EARLY AFTER TOPPING?

Hey guys thanks for all the advice I need to chat with someone with experience with the mainlining technique and scrogging together!!!!! I have 6 plants in a 2x4x5 under 2 led lights I'm scrogging and I want to make sure that when these plants flower I'll get some dense buds... My last attempt to mainline a plant turned out just ok mind you I switched to veg right after 2nd topping day 22.... I vegged for 40 days this time and I know I could have went longer but what I need to know is does anyone have pictures or experience with mainlining and scrogging and if could share some tips on flowering and making sure it comes out right... Ik over defoliation in flower can cause the buds to be extra leafy from my last harvest but that was only one plant and it was in with 7 others that weren't topped and it was a mystery seed that was female and the stretch was weak.... The strains this time are blueberry and white widow so I don't necessarily know what kind of stretch I'll get out of these strains

I heard to let them veg for up to 2 weeks after topping before transitioning to flower just to give them time to recover and not lose yields

Nice frame ... now please stop with two things.

First - topping. If you keep topping, you will never get your branches long enough to do any weaving through your SCROG netting. And thereby contradicting the purpose of your netting.

Second - counting the days that you have been vegging. Totally irrelevant. You are not worried about how many days you have been vegging. You will know when it's time to flip to flower. So starting right now, here is what you need to do.

Let the branches grow and as they grow, you spread them laterally by weaving them through the netting and fill all those bare spots in. As the branches get longer, you weave them over one piece of string then under the next and grow the branches outwards. You keep doing that weaving until all of those bare spots are filled in. The netting is filled in when you look at it from above and can't really see the floor underneath.

This is why you don't worry about the # of days in VEG. The plants tell you when it time to flip.

Have you ever had adverse effects from bud based defoliation like over leafy Budds?

Rickypsimer said:

Have you ever had adverse effects from bud based defoliation like over leafy Budds?

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You can Defoliate anything that’s not a sugar leaf

I don't know if you guys can see this but there is a color differential all of my tops are like a lighter yellowish then the rest of the plant now I know in flowering and in the stretch the tops are sometimes yellow but I'm starting to see like a brown spot at the end of the leaves and some big yellow discoloration in sections any ideas what it might be a sign of I'm trying to stay Strictly Organic I'm in Fox Farm ocean Forest I duties where I add the Big Bloom the only organic portion of the trio in distilled water with a little bit of extra Cal Mag and tons of Mico

And it's like so if I'm in soil and I need to boost my PK how do I do it without synthetics and if I have to use synthetics how do I go about doing it

Rickypsimer said:

... Have you ever had adverse effects from bud based defoliation like over leafy Budds? ...

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You can remove a some fan leaves here and there to thin it out a bit and let the light hit some more bud sites. You know ... just don't over do it. And when I do that, I don't have any adverse affects.

So are you in the BLOOM cycle or the VEG cycle right now?

I switched 12/¹² 3 days ago

Due to confined space I switched to flower and it's been 16 days since the second topping

Too many plants in too little space for a SCRoG. This is a SoG

A SOG with just 6 plants?

I think its just 6 plants with a net...

Kassiopeija said:

A SOG with just 6 plants?

I think its just 6 plants with a net...

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I mean I don't disagree with the 2nd notion haha

Kassiopeija said:

... I think its just 6 plants with a net ...

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Yup ... and a good frame that won't be used to it's potential. SIGH

Rickypsimer said:

... Due to confined space I switched to flower and it's been 16 days since the second topping ...

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OK thanks. I'm with Blazer - too many plants for a small SCROG.

So ... no more topping. There are bud sites are forming on those tops now that you are in the BLOOM cycle. You don't want to cut them off.

The weaving that I was recommending was during the VEG cycle. Being in the flower cycle, I suggest you not weave anymore. If you want to flatten the canopy, you could use small zip ties and gently secure the longer branches to the netting to flatten them. Otherwise just let her go and she will give you what she can give you.

Since you have the solid frame, we can help you put it to proper use during your next grow. As one who also grows in a 2 x 4 x 5 tent, you would be pleasantly surprised with what you can pull from 2 plants properly SCROG'd across 8 square feet.

the net is too far down, it should give stability for the tops... now youve triggered flower and these young plants will stretch like mad

Kassiopeija said:

the net is too far down, it should give stability for the tops... now youve triggered flower and these young plants will stretch like mad

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you could always add a second net later if needed

I hope they stretch ...... And the net is just to help spread the plants out flat I've topped them all twice for 8 mains and left some under growth when the inner shoots caught up to the other mains I switched to flower

I'm shooting for wall to wall mainlined COLAS .here's a few pics from my last grow.. these arnt topped

Breeder says the white widow is sativa dominant and the blueberry is indica dominant

Rickypsimer said:

.. I'm shooting for wall to wall mainlined COLAS ...

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Something like this?