has anyone used pargro quick drain rockwool cubes?

tree king

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I was told that there are 3 different kinds (densities) of Grodan and they are labeled Delta, Classic, and one other inbetween the two. Apparently the Classic which is usually the slabs drains quicker where as the Delta which are usually the blocks hold more water... this would make sense if you are starting in a block then setting that block on a slab, you would want the slab to drain quicker. This is what I was told and was wondering if anyone could confirm this info?
id like to know this too? and how exactly do you use slabs?
 

i81two

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You start ur plant in the cube and then place it on top of the slab.

The roots grow into the slab.
 

nicedreamz

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I just checked, definitely BCUZZ.

Are you saying that you suspect your growing medium of contributing a slime to your filter and pump? I've never had that issue actually though I always soak and wash my rockwool before plants are planted into them. I've never used a coco mat so maybe that is the issue? Maybe some h2o2 is needed.
Hey homebrewer i mixed up a 5 gal bucket with 20 mil of pro and 15 mil of grow and the next morning i had brownish looking stuff floating in the water. I'm using 50/50 tap RO ppm before nutes is a 100, I'm also running a small pump to recirculate the water. My water never did this with GH, i'm curious if it's because i don't have a lid on my rez. I haven't even flooded the tray yet, so it can't be the coco mat. I can't figure out how to upload a pic unless i start a new thread. I also talked to somebody over at hydrofarm and they said the Bcuzz blocks are definitely different than the Grodan.. He said the pattern on the bottom of the blocks may have something to do with it.
 

nicedreamz

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What brand of nutes? You need a lid for your res, no question about it.
Dyna Gro, 100ppm water before adding 20ml of pro-tek and 15ml to 5gals of water. After mixing ppm is around 490. RH is 45% Temps are 78-82, looked at them tonight when i got home seems a few of my cuts have the taco shell look. Will not having a lid cause some problems? The last few grows have had issues and had no lid on the rez. Lost the lid between moves didn't think it was big deal now you got me thinking. If i could figure out how to upload a pic i would but idk i'm not very computer savy sorry.
 

tree king

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homebrewer i just read your dyna gro vs connoisseur thread and it was off the hook! im switching to dyna gro now because of it. thanks for doing the comparison.
 

homebrewer

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Dyna Gro, 100ppm water before adding 20ml of pro-tek and 15ml to 5gals of water. After mixing ppm is around 490. RH is 45% Temps are 78-82, looked at them tonight when i got home seems a few of my cuts have the taco shell look. Will not having a lid cause some problems? The last few grows have had issues and had no lid on the rez. Lost the lid between moves didn't think it was big deal now you got me thinking. If i could figure out how to upload a pic i would but idk i'm not very computer savy sorry.
Cover that res up with anything, maybe even a trash bag. There is nothing about DynaGro or GH or AN or any other hydro nute that I've used that will cause 'brownish looking floaties' naturally. If it's a growth, algae or something, looking into h2o2. Reservoir maintenance is Hydro 101 ;).
 

nicedreamz

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Cover that res up with anything, maybe even a trash bag. There is nothing about DynaGro or GH or AN or any other hydro nute that I've used that will cause 'brownish looking floaties' naturally. If it's a growth, algae or something, looking into h2o2. Reservoir maintenance is Hydro 101 ;).
Yeah i took 3 years off growing indoors and just really didn't think much about the lid, never noticed when using Gh the color is way dark from the start. Looks clear with DG so it was real easy to detect. Thanks again for the heads up
 

Highhopes99

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Cover that res up with anything, maybe even a trash bag. There is nothing about DynaGro or GH or AN or any other hydro nute that I've used that will cause 'brownish looking floaties' naturally. If it's a growth, algae or something, looking into h2o2. Reservoir maintenance is Hydro 101 ;).
How's your new strain coming along hb?

Just wanted to clarify, you are running nothing in your res for pathogens. ( no Bennys or h20) ?
Also what size is your air pump psi and res size?
There also seems to be a lot of potassium silica products on the market similar to dynagrow protekt. This should work in the same manner?
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homebrewer

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How's your new strain coming along hb?

Just wanted to clarify, you are running nothing in your res for pathogens. ( no Bennys or h20) ?
Also what size is your air pump psi and res size?
There also seems to be a lot of potassium silica products on the market similar to dynagrow protekt. This should work in the same manner?
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The strain is being tested right now and I have about 9 more females to go through before I find the best handful for future runs. I'm looking to create a clone-only strain, not really stabilize anything in seed form.

My res is 15-18 gallons and the pump is sized accordingly. I don't need to run h2o2 or bennys to take care of any issues in my res, it stays clean and I've never had issues. Actually, for 1 week I was using the water coming out of my dehumidifier since it was only like 40ppm. That shiz turned to slime in my res in a matter of days. No more dehumidifier water for my girls.

Protekt is a great product as are many silica products. Compare the labels of other silica products to protekt and I think you'll see protekt is an excellent product at a good price.
 

Highhopes99

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The strain is being tested right now and I have about 9 more females to go through before I find the best handful for future runs. I'm looking to create a clone-only strain, not really stabilize anything in seed form.

My res is 15-18 gallons and the pump is sized accordingly. I don't need to run h2o2 or bennys to take care of any issues in my res, it stays clean and I've never had issues. Actually, for 1 week I was using the water coming out of my dehumidifier since it was only like 40ppm. That shiz turned to slime in my res in a matter of days. No more dehumidifier water for my girls.

Protekt is a great product as are many silica products.
Compare the labels of other silica products to protekt and I think you'll see
protekt is an excellent product at a good price.


Thanks for the info hb . I can't seem to find dyna gro protekt local. Maybe I'll try elsewhere. I was going to run some h202 In my res because I know al b fuct has great success with it at 1 ml per liter but that is 50% grade. In Canada 29% is the strongest they can sell so I would have to add 1.7 ml per liter which would accumulate to 255 mls every 3 days (al's recomended dose). Seems like a lot of product to me but I have had issues with root growth in the last month of flowering and need something to clean up the res. Glad to know it is possible to run a sterile res without the use of h202.
 

tree king

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i just wanted to thank everyone for all the info. i decided to go with these jiffy coco cubes for my next crop. take care guys
 

bodyshop54

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i like realy like the cultilene 4x4x4 cubes you couldent get them for awhile for some reason but they stand up better then to grodans do i belive the grodan also are partialy recyled too. but i have had the problem before because i love to just transplant into 4x4x4 cubes and flower the thing i noticed most importent was the need to water as needed after the transplant and use root inoculents like tarentula and scorpian powder right in the cube before you transplant that way you blow those roots out and then never have the over water issue if you dont tease those roots out they will stay inside that cube and your yeilds will suck after also try setting your drain lower on tables to tease those roots down where you want them
 

bodyshop54

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floaties can be salts and scale or just shit reacting to other shit. i used advanced A and B grow with great white shark and a (now i use plant sucsess same shit cheaper) (scorpion and tarantula work well too)and a carb like carboload bud candy or sweet never heavyweight or molases in hydro cause of foam in sphagnum its fine. I would add big bud and switch to A and B bloom in flower and run a root inoculate for the first 2 weeks of flower then i switch to using a zyme like sinsizyme. basicly i figure you blow out the root system the carb feeds the inoculents and helps break down and feed the endo and ecto so they reproduce(like in teas) that builds nice big hairy roots at that point 2 weeks into flower you just need zyme to clean and maintain the roots you built as to help in uptake i like silicas in the summer cause lets face it most are rooms are not perfect labs and that shit helps fight pm and heat stress.
 

tree king

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bodyshop ive also tried the entire an 2 part program together and still had problems. i think my only option now is to switch to another medium. lets see how these jiffy coco cubes work out
 
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