Has Atheism become its own Religion?

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sherriberry

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just as we have an instinct that says fat ans sugar smell good, we have an instinct the killing off trouble makers feels good.

the only problem is, if you go your whole life trying to kill off trouble makers, and never learn how to bring anything positive to the table... then frankly... you are a trouble maker as well.

we are learning to control our fat and sugar intake because we see that too much of it doesnt bring happiness in the long run.

we as the masses have to learn to control our desire to blame and punish, and realize that killing everyone off is not the solution to solving the problem we are complainging about.

the solution is we need to work peacefully to solve it.

first thing they do in the military is give an iq test, if you get a high enough score, you dont go to the front lines, you go to a bunker and have the chance to rise through military intelligence, and solve problems with solution isntead of death.

doesnt matter what corner of the earth a person is born, or which religion, or which military, in the end, the tip tops of almost every team... are freiends, and they appreciate eachtoehrs work in trying to guide their portion of the globe to becoming a better society.

these are the kinds of people we all want to have around, but most are too lazy to try and become.

people think that blaming and knowing who to blame makes them important.

yes, you are as important as an ape at the zoo, thanks for your advice on who to punish.

heres a gun, heres a battlefield... whine some more after a bullet has ripped through your rib cage... maybe while you are bleeding to death you will realize that maybe life wasnt so bad after all, and maybe instead of point blame all day at the other team and your leader, you should have put some energy into making the world a better place and being peaceful and respectful.

but maybe its genetically impossible for you?

fine, we have the solution for that.
 
morgentaler

morgentaler

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Woodstock.Hippie said:

A Mystical Scientist is one that accepts the reality of and is fascinated by the Mystery of all the cool phenomena in the known multiverse.
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http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/mystical

Curiousity is not mysticism.

Without disclosing any personal information, Mr. Morgentaler, may I ask you again what is your favorite scientific discipline?
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Proteomics would be one of the most interesting.
A survey conducted between 2005 and 2007 by Elaine Ecklund of University at Buffalo, The State University of New York and funded by the Templeton Foundation found that over 60% of natural and social science professors are atheists or agnostics. When asked whether they believed in God, nearly 34% answered "I do not believe in God" and about 30% answering "I do not know if there is a God and there is no way to find out,"[63] According to the same survey, "[m]any scientists see themselves as having a spirituality not attached to a particular religious tradition."[64] In further analysis, published in 2007, Ecklund and Christopher Scheitle conclude that "the assumption that becoming a scientist necessarily leads to loss of religion is untenable" and that "t appears that those from non-religious backgrounds disproportionately self-select into scientific professions. This may reflect the fact that there is tension between the religious tenets of some groups and the theories and methods of particular sciences and it contributes to the large number of non-religious scientists."[65]"
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http://www.stephenjaygould.org/ctrl/news/file002.html

The fact that the US has a lot of Christians doesn't make religion any more valid. It just indicates that indoctrination works.

Europe's atheism is much higher. And here is Canada it lies in the middle between the US and Europe.

Faith is not logical nor informed of evidence. If you are indoctrinated to it, breaking the bonds are not easy no matter what education you seek.
 
Woodstock.Hippie

Woodstock.Hippie

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Good.

We share plenty of common ground, and you don't have to worry about me rocking your world by trying to change your life based on my personal concept of my own spiritual higher power.

I am much more interested in communicating with someone who understands how powerful genes are.

Does the concept of spiritual machinery no longer requiring DNA based proteomes excite you?

Or, do you believe DNA will continue to attract more sophisticated distribution technology?

Or, do you believe in 2012 Humansity will enter a mystical scenario where new spiritual machines continue to significantly increase the rate at which knowledge is acquired and as a result extending the boundary between belief and knowledge to a point where even you are impressed?

Do you believe in 2012 customized life will be significantly easier to create than IT is today?

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PadawanBater

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Woodstock.Hippie said:
Good.

We share plenty of common ground, and you don't have to worry about me rocking your world by trying to change your life based on my personal concept of my own spiritual higher power.

I am much more interested in communicating with someone who understands how powerful genes are.

Does the concept of spiritual machinery no longer requiring DNA based proteomes excite you?

Or, do you believe DNA will continue to attract more sophisticated distribution technology?

Or, do you believe in 2012 Humansity will enter a mystical scenario where new spiritual machines continue to significantly increase the rate at which knowledge is acquired and as a result extending the boundary between belief and knowledge to a point where even you are impressed?

Do you believe in 2012 customized life will be significantly easier to create than IT is today?

[youtube]QVsW2Ymb2dI[/youtube]
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Where were you educated? Why do you speak like this? Do you speak like this in real life, or just when you come get on RIU? Just curious.
 
morgentaler

morgentaler

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At least my experiment paid off to some degree.
After I saw that Hippie's speech patterns made an abrupt change when Brevity goaded him/her. I thought I'd try my own luck.
It worked, to a degree.

The ambiguity might be handy if one were doing a thesis on how inferred meaning from intentionally vague statements can sway a topic one way or another. I've often thought that might be the case here. After all, if one creationist university gives away a credit simply for posting an anti-evolution screed in the comments of a science blog, there are probably other programs at other less 'creationy' universities taking advantage of the pool of subjects available to be experimented on on the internet.
 
mastakoosh

mastakoosh

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We are infinitely removed from comprehending the extremes, since the end of things and their beginning are hopelessly hidden from us in an encapsulated secret; we are equally incapable of seeing the Nothing from which we were made, and the Infinite in which we are swallowed up.
Blaise Pascal, 1623-1662, French philosopher, physic and mathematician, Thoughts


 
Woodstock.Hippie

Woodstock.Hippie

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Would IT be unscrupulous for learning to occur without without the permission and assistance of an institution?

Are there any atheitic or mystic rules in particular that should be followed?

:peace:
 
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ryobidrill

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Athiests are just concerned with the well being of people. You have the two largest religions ready for the world to end and if anything threatens the future of humanity (including each other) they will simply accept it and die. That's not what we need in that kind of situation. We need to fight to survive. It is more important than ever to free people from something that may destroy humankind.

sideburnsnbellbottems67 said:
yes, its an oxymoron, but to start I do want to say that this thread does not pertain to all atheists. I have friends who are atheist who basically say "I don't believe in God, I don't go to church, I don't follow any religion, end of story." What I am talking about is the people out there claiming to be atheists, where it seems like they have made it their only goal in life to prove Christians wrong.

I was walking to class one day when I passed the atheist club at my college. It was a group of about 20 people sitting around listening to a guy standing on a milk crate preaching about how the bible is wrong and there is no Heaven or hell, and I pondered to myself, is this the next fad religion? a guy preaching about a holy book to his followers, while in turn trying to get others to follow his way. Is this really atheism? never once have I seen a group trying to tell jews that their wrong, or muslims or buddhists, or any other religion specifically.

I am not trying to say that my religion is right or that atheism, or any other religion for that matter, is wrong, (anything is possible, especially when it is based on faith) but even my atheist friends think that this is taking it too far. from what I have always thought, and from what my friends always said, atheism isn't about proving Christianity wrong, but just not dealing with it, removing yourself from any group that has to do with religion altogether.

So what are these groups? To me they seem like their trying to be their own religion, without being a religion.
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morgentaler

morgentaler

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ryobidrill said:
Athiests are just concerned with the well being of people. You have the two largest religions ready for the world to end and if anything threatens the future of humanity (including each other) they will simply accept it and die. That's not what we need in that kind of situation. We need to fight to survive. It is more important than ever to free people from something that may destroy humankind.
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It's definitely scary to think that the two largest religions on this planet are death cults.
 
Woodstock.Hippie

Woodstock.Hippie

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morgentaler said:
You just jumped between two different conversations.

Originally Posted by Woodstock.Hippie
Would IT be unscrupulous for learning to occur without without the permission and assistance of an institution?

Are there any atheitic or mystic rules in particular that should be followed?

:peace:
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We disagree.

IT is the same conversation.

Does the concept of spiritual machinery no longer requiring DNA based proteomes excite you?

Do you believe Spiritual Machines exist?
 
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