Have you owned a business/company?

NLXSK1 said:
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How much did you pay for your place again? I think I got the better deal!!
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the deal was your parents died, and you inherited their home.

because we all know that people who have to take out personal loans for living expenses, lime you do, cannot afford a mortgage.

not even in apache junction, arizona, meth capital of the world.
 
@whiteebb every Sunday morning there has to be some craziness here lol.


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kmog33 said:
Apparently I don't own a business because I believe in paying my employees enough to live off of.


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It's called being self employed . Just because somebody owns a business, that doesn't necessarily mean they hire employees.
 
kmog33 said:
They will be making more money though. Welfare it's more than minimum wage, that is a problem. If people on welfare made more working than not working, then they would work. I don't see your point with this one.


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WTF? $8/hr x 12 = $96.......$16/hr x 6 = $96
They do make more working than living off welfare if they're worth it. That's the problem. You can't see beyond what you want to see.
 
Not GOP said:
It's called being self employed . Just because somebody owns a business, that doesn't necessarily mean they hire employees.
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Yep totally get that. That's actually how our business started.


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Red1966 said:
WTF? $8/hr x 12 = $96.......$16/hr x 6 = $96
They do make more working than living off welfare if they're worth it. That's the problem. You can't see beyond what you want to see.
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That statement doesn't even begin to make sense. Minimum wage is minimum wage. It doesn't depend on whether "they're worth it" or not. Where the fuck did you get the idea that minimum wage had anything to do with what people were worth? Minimum wage is supposed to cover housing and food. If you want more than that you find a job that values your work more and get paid more.

But even McDonald's should have to pay their employees enough to live wherever they are located. The fact that you are insinuating paying someone less than is necessary to survive is ok is pretty daft. If your company can't afford to pay your employees enough to survive, your business should/will fail.


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kmog33 said:
Depends on who's perspective you're looking at it from.

For they business owners, it mean you pay less in taxes and benefits per employees.

For the employees, you're making twice as much money that you see and get to spend. Most people would say that's a win. Granted I know it isn't really because insurance/healthcare isn't cheap, but hey, they just made the affordable care act, so if you can't afford your insurance the government will help you out. With money that people like me pay into the system so all the people that can't afford insurance still get it.

That is a totally different argument, but as far as it goes you would be spending more and less as a business owner depending on how you choose to adapt to wage hikes


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Taxes are the same. The employee isn't making any more money because he's working half as long. And losing benefits, too. The ACA just shifts the burden to others. But hey, robbing others is OK as long as you benefit.
 
kmog33 said:
That statement doesn't even begin to make sense. Minimum wage is minimum wage. It doesn't depend on whether "they're worth it" or not. Where the fuck did you get the idea that minimum wage had anything to do with what people were worth? Minimum wage is supposed to cover housing and food. If you want more than that you find a job that values your work more and get paid more.

But even McDonald's should have to pay their employees enough to live wherever they are located. The fact that you are insinuating paying someone less than is necessary to survive is ok is pretty daft. If your company can't afford to pay your employees enough to survive, your business should/will fail.


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So then nobody has a job?
 
Red1966 said:
Taxes are the same. The employee isn't making any more money because he's working half as long. And losing benefits, too. The ACA just shifts the burden to others. But hey, robbing others is OK as long as you benefit.
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Taxes are not the same, on the business, for full and part time employees. Neither do you have to pay benefits on part time workers. So as a business owner it would cost you less to have twice as many people working part time as half as many people working full time.

That's why businesses love contractors. They cover half of the taxes themselves.


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kmog33 said:
Dude just claimed a photo I took was stolen off of fb so I posted it with my username in it. Now he wants my deeds lol.


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The photo was taken from the balcony or stairwell. There is clearly no window frame on the left side. Or do the not use windows in California? www.facebook.com was in the header
 
Red1966 said:
So then nobody has a job?
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Most of the people I know would still have jobs. I don't honestly know that many people that make minimum wage out here. As stated before, I live in Los Angeles , where you cannot survive off min wage. So literally this will not affect anyone around me. Anyone I know that wants cheap labor outsources, again another argument, but pay their employees well over minimum wage.


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kmog33 said:
Lol I have a house right by those posted. And a penthouse loft in downtown la.
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Neither of which anyone could afford on minimum wage.


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Red1966 said:
Stolen from a Facebook post. Lying piece of shit
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kmog33 said:
You are an idiot.
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Red1966 said:
I see nothing to indicate you own the location you are photographing from. Or that you are even inside a building. Your complete inability to do even simple math indicates you have no clue
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Lol this is hilarious

@kmog33 This person is incapable of admitting a mistake. It's literally impossible for him because his ego is too inflated. I've caught him in the same kind of blatant situation two or three times before
 
kmog33 said:
Taxes are not the same, on the business, for full and part time employees. Neither do you have to pay benefits on part time workers. So as a business owner it would cost you less to have twice as many people working part time as half as many people working full time.

That's why businesses love contractors. They cover half of the taxes themselves.


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You pay insurance on employees, not taxes. Employees DEDUCT from your taxes.
 
Red1966 said:
The photo was taken from the balcony or stairwell. There is clearly no window frame on the left side. Or do the not use windows in California? www.facebook.com was in the header
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No it wasn't, it was taken from my window, right before I posted it lol. Lofts have big windows smarty. And there are no stairwells off the side of my building.
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So it was "clearly" taken from where?


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Padawanbater2 said:
Lol this is hilarious

@kmog33 This person is incapable of admitting a mistake. It's literally impossible for him because his ego is too inflated. I've caught him in the same kind of blatant situation two or three times before
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Claims to accomplishments that never happened. Typical of your lying ass. Now accuse me of rape and murder some more.
 
Red1966 said:
You pay insurance on employees, not taxes. Employees DEDUCT from your taxes.
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employers have to cover half of the FICA wages for any employee they have. that is 6.2% for social security and 1.45% for medicare.

contractors like me who are self employed get the pleasure of paying that twice, a whopping 15.3% of every dollar i make.

you have no fucking clue what you are talking about.

and you live in a rented shit hole of a house.
 
kmog33 said:
No it wasn't, it was taken from my window, right before I posted it lol. Lofts have big windows smarty. And there are no stairwells off the side of my building.
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So it was "clearly" taken from where?


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So you rent a place with a view of a parking lot. I'm impressed. Really, I am.
 
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