Hawaii Growers

Bobotrank said:

You're right, he's still alive. It was Terrance McKenna. I've gotta ask my wife the deets about it tho... we were watching a movie filmed at his house, and it was straight up Puna style, and I'm pretty sure it was BI, too. This isn't over yet... I musta been stoned lol

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terrance mckenna grew a psy garden not far from me,every drug you can think of,one day he crashed his bike in my yard and fell about 10' down the gully on his head,choppers had to fly him out...he was diag w/brain tumor,died 1 year later

theexpress said:

i was surprised that bj was able to take fitch down a few times.... but that last round was real real ugly.. if that was a belt fight bj was gonna get bvanged out some more by boreing ass fitch

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take the draw and run! BJ's fight plan was awesome. Had BJ done his tactics of late(stand & bang),Fitch would have done his famous smoothering act. BJ's fight plan was what got him his draw in my opinion. Unfortunately BJ's old nemesis once again came in his fight last night. Conditioning in my opinion was his undoing. Going into the third rd. he was already zapped of all his energy. Between Fitch leaning on him, and his several attempts and takedowns of Fitch in first two rounds drained him. Looking at BJ's face being tatooed on the ground by Fitch in rd. 3 reminded me of the Penn vs Hughes II. Oh by the way. I believe the sucess of the first two rds was directly related to having Matt Hughes come out to hilo and train with BJ on his wrestling up against the cage!

Even though he's 32. BJ is still talented than most. But todays MMA and especially in the UFC. It's constantly evolving,and if you're not too. Well then youre left out! Well BJ enjoyed years of sucess in the UFC off his pure talent alone. But those days are quickly falling behind as he gets older, and the rest of UFC is evolving. BJ's first two rds. was a sign of change! By bringing in Matt Hughes, BJ looked at his fight differently. First rd two legged takedown was right outta hughes playbook . That was a start. But if BJ plans to return to days of glory. He must do one more major overhaul once again to his camp. BJ Penn suffers from what is known as Mike Tyson Snydrome. Meaning your camp is full of "yes men". Not one soul has the balls to say no to the dude. What good is that? BJ's camp should be conducte on mainland not in Hilo. Hey, just my 2 cents,..

hup234 said:

terrance mckenna grew a psy garden not far from me,every drug you can think of,one day he crashed his bike in my yard and fell about 10' down the gully on his head,choppers had to fly him out...he was diag w/brain tumor,died 1 year later

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Yes, exactly. He lived in a virtual drug lab, and was all about DMT and the craziest of the crazy hallucinogens. He also had some really interesting views on the world in General. So that was south side BI, then, Hup?

If i want my plants to grow in long season when would be a good time to plant the seeds? And i am new to growing, what is the minimum height in long season does anyone know?
Aloha,
KR.

hup234 said:

terrance mckenna grew a psy garden not far from me,every drug you can think of,one day he crashed his bike in my yard and fell about 10' down the gully on his head,choppers had to fly him out...he was diag w/brain tumor,died 1 year later

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Wow, lets use the marijuana logic here that politicians and police speaking about marijuana use all the time. 10' Falls cause deadly brain tumors!!!

Kruise said:

If i want my plants to grow in long season when would be a good time to plant the seeds? And i am new to growing, what is the minimum height in long season does anyone know?
Aloha,
KR.

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Long season doesn't work for anything but a few sativa varieties. In hawaii since the most sun we goin get is 13.2 hours In the end of June (flowering for 90% of strains is 14hours or less) you don't get a long season. For long season I suggest vegging indoors as long as you like then put outside to flower when the bugga stay bully.

tardis said:

Wow, lets use the marijuana logic here that politicians and police speaking about marijuana use all the time. 10' Falls cause deadly brain tumors!!!

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no,the brain tumor caused him to pass out alot,he just happened to be going by my house at the time,the garden he grew for someone else on kawaihae rd.ainakea subdevision,it's been bought and sold several times it probably overgrown now...although i'll bet a few goodies are still popping up.nothing against terrance the guy was a pioneer...

hup234 said:

no,the brain tumor caused him to pass out alot,he just happened to be going by my house at the time,the garden he grew for someone else on kawaihae rd.ainakea subdevision,it's been bought and sold several times it probably overgrown now...although i'll bet a few goodies are still popping up.nothing against terrance the guy was a pioneer...

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think tardis was sayin that this would be a perfect opportunity for the marijuana haters to use the accident info and twist it into..the ol fucker was stoned when he wrecked his scooter...kinda deal.

hup234 said:

no,the brain tumor caused him to pass out alot,he just happened to be going by my house at the time,the garden he grew for someone else on kawaihae rd.ainakea subdevision,it's been bought and sold several times it probably overgrown now...although i'll bet a few goodies are still popping up.nothing against terrance the guy was a pioneer...

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Ohhh man, guaranteed there's still some ayahuasca vine creeping around that place. . . hell, I know quite a few people who have it growing on their land around that area... the thing grows just like a weed, lol. If you wanna go to outerspace, ayahuasca brew will take you there.

Police on Kauai are fighting to stop disabled people from having access to Medicine which works better than anything available by doctors. Their public argument has been that they are trying to protect children. But there is a bigger issue that should be looked at first.

Police have a much higher Domestic Violence rate, 24% according to this study. Regardless of the excuses why, domestic abuse not only harms children, it harms society as those children living in abusive lives grow up to cause abuse. Since alcohol seems to be related in over 90% of the situations, it seems a better way to stop harm to our children, and what we should focus on first, is to make it ILLEGAL in hawaii for any police officer to have any alchohol, beer, wine, hards, even of duty. THey have already said that what someone does when they arn't at work DOES matter, so they can't argue as long as they are off duty, since thats when the most harm comes to children. If the politicians really want to protect kids like they say, they should have immediate federal imprisonment for any officer who ever handles alchohol. Here are the links that prove a police officer with a beer does more harm to children and society then disabled people with marijuana.

http://www.womenandpolicing.org/violenceFS.asp
http://alcolim.com/Alcohol-Treatment-News/19387924_Police-identify-link-between-alcohol-and-domestic-violence.html

Do I really think they should not have the right to a beer? No. Neither do I think someone with severe pain should be forced to go on oxycotton and have their kidneys shut down. Alcohol has caused more harm to teens then marijuana possibly could, with many deaths (no teen who ever did only marijuana and stayed away from alcohol ever died from it, not even in car accident statitstics). SO, to quote the bible, Mathew 7.5 "Hypocrite! First get rid of the log in your own eye; then you will see well enough to deal with the speck in your friend's eye."

If you want to punish MMJ patients, do so after you punish alcohol drinkers in the police department, it just makes more sense for society

(that being said the majority of police officers are in fact good people who work hard for our community. Good police officers should be hailed as heroes of our society, however corrupt police are more damaging to innocent people than even terrorists, and should be treated as such.)

It is Logical, and a statistical FACT that making it a crime for off duty officers to ever drink alcohol will protect children FAR MORE than if all marijuana was removed from Hawaii forever. I'm just saying, the facts don't lie. All it would take is one federal petition from our angered marijuana smoking residents, and it could be law too.

But that would also mean months of advertising showing the facts of domestic violence and police and alcohol, going into great detail of every event that happend so the public had all the facts..... tit for tat. Of course I wouldn't support it, because the good cops deserve a beer after a long day, just as someone in pain deserves a painkiller that doesn't cause addiction, kidney shutdown, or negative side effects, something that the Medical Drug Industry JUST CAN'T OFFER PEOPLE!

Here's how I see it. Marijuana is illegal right now, and for the most part society as a whole functions normally. If I have no weed, I'll go out and get it from someone. No harm, no foul. World keeps on spinning.

On the flip side, imagine if alcohol and tobacco were illegal. Alcohol was illegal before and the violence/murders that took place were horrible. Gangsters killing each other/ civillians for control of the black market. Here in Hawaii, there are many pakalolo dealers and I don't see people being killed for control of the pakalolo market. That to me, says that if legal life would go on. No increase in violence, children would still be fine. Police just get too much money from putting people in jail.

DelSlow said:

Here's how I see it. Marijuana is illegal right now, and for the most part society as a whole functions normally. If I have no weed, I'll go out and get it from someone. No harm, no foul. World keeps on spinning.

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YOu left out that you go to get weed, police are staking out your dealer. you leave. Cop pulls you over, thinks you look violent and decides to taser you. YOu fall to the ground writhing in pain then he yanks your arm spraining your elbow while he cuffs you, you go to jail, lose your job, your wife, access to your kids. Then you go to a holding cell for your trial, where the lack of room causes them to put in a cellmate who hates your race. Although he seems fine to the guards the moment they leave he sneaks that shiv that was in his ass out and stabs you in the heart. You die slowly in a pool of blood.

A real horrible possibility thanks to a corporate bigotry against pot smokers.....


excessive? Yes. But a lot more likely with pot illegal.

Lol! That's pretty extreme

tardis said:

YOu left out that you go to get weed, police are staking out your dealer. you leave. Cop pulls you over, thinks you look violent and decides to taser you. YOu fall to the ground writhing in pain then he yanks your arm spraining your elbow while he cuffs you, you go to jail, lose your job, your wife, access to your kids. Then you go to a holding cell for your trial, where the lack of room causes them to put in a cellmate who hates your race. Although he seems fine to the guards the moment they leave he sneaks that shiv that was in his ass out and stabs you in the heart. You die slowly in a pool of blood.

A real horrible possibility thanks to a corporate bigotry against pot smokers.....


excessive? Yes. But a lot more likely with pot illegal.

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That made my day. Look, I know that is a possibility (a small one) but I was trying to make an argument for legalization. Anyone who wants ganja knows where and how to get it, even with it being illegal. And everyone keeps doing their thing. Cannabis is not the cause of society's problems. So....if cannabis were legal, I can only see positive outcomes. Medical patients will be allowed to grow their meds, try new strains from dispensaries, buy seeds, clones, etc. People who want to smoke recreationally will have a reliable way to get weed, and they won't have to worry about cops.

I don't get what people are so afraid of. Anti drug people are always up in arms about how using drugs is a way to escape reality. No shit. If I work day in and day out, why can't I smoke to relax or to "escape" normal life? People drink and get fucked up. But that's ok. People smoke cigs, which WILL kill you if you do it long enough. But that's ok. Hell, I can pop 10 Xanax and OD. But that's ok.

We all lead different lives. Some people hunt, some people race. Some people surf, some people go to church. Different strokes for different folks. The sooner the masses realize this, the sooner marijuana will be legal.

BTW, not knocking drinking or smoking or pill popping if that's your thing. Just examples.

pepperbelly said:

think tardis was sayin that this would be a perfect opportunity for the marijuana haters to use the accident info and twist it into..the ol fucker was stoned when he wrecked his scooter...kinda deal.

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I didn't know who terrence mckenna was at the time of the accident.about a week later I'm listening to art bell bell on the radio and he's the one telling the whole story,i guess tm w/on art's show alot after that i looked him up and read one of his books on dmt the guy is a trip...worth reading...almost ,almost wanted to try dmt but i can't hardly handle the ssh i grow now...

DelSlow said:

I don't get what people are so afraid of. Anti drug people are always up in arms about how using drugs is a way to escape reality. No shit. If I work day in and day out, why can't I smoke to relax or to "escape" normal life? People drink and get fucked up. But that's ok. People smoke cigs, which WILL kill you if you do it long enough. But that's ok. Hell, I can pop 10 Xanax and OD. But that's ok.

We all lead different lives. Some people hunt, some people race. Some people surf, some people go to church. Different strokes for different folks. The sooner the masses realize this, the sooner marijuana will be legal.

BTW, not knocking drinking or smoking or pill popping if that's your thing. Just examples.

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My husband likes to stay glued to video games..He really has no safe alternatives being Military and all. I after a long day of cooking, cleaning prefer to smoke. He tells me that it will never be legal until the government decides that it's fine. That states can decide all they want, but ultimately it's up to the government.

come on over you can smoke all you want no judgements...

tardis said:

Long season doesn't work for anything but a few sativa varieties. In hawaii since the most sun we goin get is 13.2 hours In the end of June (flowering for 90% of strains is 14hours or less) you don't get a long season. For long season I suggest vegging indoors as long as you like then put outside to flower when the bugga stay bully.

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Aloha Iren,
Jah Bless.