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anherbman

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A full editorial in today Star Advertiser....

FEAR OF MEDICAL POT ABUSE DESERVES FULL PUBLIC VETTING

Defenders of Hawaii's medical marijuana law were startled this week by a late effort to sharply limit uses of marijuana to reduce severe pain. The proposal carries an assumption that either doctors or patients are being less than candid about whether the pain actually exists. This may be. But the onus should be on Sen. Josh Green, who proposed the last-minute change, to provide evidence of such shenanigans before such changes become law.

Green, a Big Island emergency room physician and chairman of the Senate Health Committee, injected the proposal in a House-Senate conference this week in a bill to launch a medical marijuana dispensary as a pilot program.

The senator's concerns about the program - "pretty hard to wrap my mind around" - are not surprising. Opponents of medical marijuana point out that the number of Hawaii residents issued blue cards by the state Department of Public Safety as legal users has soared from 255 in 2001, the program's first year, to more than 8,000.

Hawaii's law, similar to laws in 10 other states, allows cannabis to be used by patients diagnosed as having a debilitating medical condition. That condition includes a variety of ailments, including severe pain, severe nausea and Crohn's disease, an intestinal condition.

Keith Kamita, deputy director of public safety for law enforcement, says the bulk of residents certified to use medical marijuana are in their 20s and 30s, and most of them cite severe pain as their medical condition. Green proposed that marijuana be accessible only to patients suffering from multiple sclerosis, cancer, HIV/AIDS or glaucoma.

A cautious approach makes sense for a pilot project. As Hawaii gingerly tests the waters of marijuana dispensaries, it should proceed carefully, with clear guidelines for physicans and patients alike. The four diseases enumerated by Green are objectively and physically diagnosable. Not so with cases of pain, which depend on a doctor's trust of his or her patients.

Dr. Jim Berg, a Big Island physician who the Narcotic Enforcement Division records showed had authorized 2,957 marijuana certificates as of last June, defends the medical use.

In an open letter to Green yesterday, Berg maintained that he has "witnessed the truth of these patients and know it helps them, and that it can be used safely." He suggested that his patients include those who have chronic neck, shoulder, wrist, ankle, knee or back pain from injuries in manual labor jobs.

Matt Rifkin, co-chairman of the Big Island Americans for Safe Access, an advocate of medical marijuana rights, says the limitation proposed by Green could disqualify most the patients who now have blue cards.

Berg says it would effectively disqualify more than 90 percent of currently registered patients.

Green's concern may be worthy of an investigation into the integrity of the medical marijuana program. But there are no shortcuts. Any proposals to lay the ground rules for such a controversial program deserve a full public vetting before being implemented.

Newshawk: Drug Policy Forum of Hawai'i http://www.dpfhi.org/
Pubdate: Sat, 30 Apr 2011
Source: Honolulu Star-Advertiser (HI)
Copyright: 2011 Star Advertiser
Contact: http://www.staradvertiser.com/info/Star-Advertiser_Letter_to_the_Editor.html
Website: http://www.staradvertiser.com/
Details: http://www.mapinc.org/media/5154
Cited: Big Island Americans for Safe Access http://www.safeaccessnow.org/article.php?id=287
Bookmark: http://www.mapinc.org/opinion.htm (Opinion)
Bookmark: http://www.mapinc.org/find?253 (Cannabis - Medicinal - U.S.)
Bookmark: http://www.drugsense.org/cms/geoview/n-us-hi (Hawaii)Newshawk: Drug Policy Forum of Hawai'i http://www.dpfhi.org/
 

tardis

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Medical pot abuse? Fuck me.
yeah I want to hear how many patients lives were saved from pot use in his years as an emergency room doctor. If any patients showed up how many would have died without his help. my guess nobody ever went in for pot related problems.
 

Puna Bud

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I think now is the time to stop posting your "little" bud pictures,and all of you including myself. We now need to pick up and put on our advocate hats. We all need to be a force within our community, especially if you love this plant. Sitting back and licking one's wounds will not solve this problem. We all need to become community activist. I imagine it's not the easiest thing to do on Oahu. Here on the Big Island it's not uncommon to find people on "soap boxes" ,screaming out their beliefs in front of Walmart. We all need to take up the cause,otherwise "butt worms" like Josh Green will have their day in the sun here and Hawaii will never get a Dispensary like it should have.

Come on gangy, power in numbers!!!!!!

I say don't post pics, then I post this shit!?!?!? I must be fucking ,....crazy doc! I figure Sen/Dr. Josh Green could use one of these "jizzles"?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ny0ix0OyO1c
 

Puna Bud

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I urge all you personal gardners to either call, email, or snail mail Sen./Dr. Josh Green. Take a break from posting pics of your gardens,and take the time to write this dork. Let him now how you feel about his ideas with regards to SB 1458

Come on gang, this is almost our last chance to change things in Hawaii. Please get involved, otherwise I have to get on a plane and fly to either Cali or Colorado to look for a plce to live for my wife , two boys, 3 pitbulls, and seven chicken. I'm leaning more towards Colrado than Cali though. I think the cannabis laws are more set up to protect the user there than in Cali. Though Colorado might trail in genetics though? But that's hardly a problem for "super breeder" as myself :lol:
 

Cooter@666

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Harvested some more AK 48 and Papaya (3 plants 10oz of wet bud :) should dry up to 2.5 oz) to the left is the AK 48 64 days of flowering....to the right is the papaya i'm not sure how long it flowered but it was ready so i took them down.
 

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Puna Bud

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:wall:Put a fork in it,..it's done gangy!


The Star Advisor reported Friday that SB 1458, a bill originally introduced to establish a well-regulated medical marijuana dispensary program, has died for the year. This bill took many forms throughout the legislative process that MPP supported; however, with the latest proposed amendments made at the last minute in a conference committee by Sen. Josh Green, we are thankful the bill did not become law.

Sen. Green’s proposal would have severely limited the list of qualifying conditions to multiple sclerosis, cancer, HIV, AIDS, and glaucoma. Thousands of registered patients who have other serious medical conditions, such as severe pain, would have been kicked out of the program and recriminalized. The bill would have also set up a pilot program with a single medical marijuana dispensary.

I’d like to thank all who submitted testimony in support of the original good bill and the Drug Policy Forum of Hawaii for their great work. Your advocacy helped advance the bill through both chambers of the Hawaii Legislature and sparked an important and necessary dialogue about patient access. It has also built a strong foundation from which to work next year.

Sincerely,



Robert J. Capecchi
Legislative Analyst
Marijuana Policy Project

good thing I got 'my own' meds Sen Green! It's know doubt that I will suffer from "anxiety",and or "severe pain", at one point or another from either having to wait another year to vote on these important matters to me. I'm sure I'll be sick to my stomach a lot knowing Sen./Dr. Green is working the Emergency Room at the hospital in Kona.

What makes me sick now is,..why the fuck didn't I know this shit Friday? If I'd pay more attention to folks speaking to me. I'd know this shit already. But then again what fun would that be? It would only mean I wasn't "bobo", at the time, and to tell you the truth...I kinda like being "bobo"
 

Puna Bud

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Harvested some more AK 48 and Papaya (3 plants 10oz of wet bud :) should dry up to 2.5 oz) to the left is the AK 48 64 days of flowering....to the right is the papaya i'm not sure how long it flowered but it was ready so i took them down.
looking gooooood!!! Keep in mind Coots, your haul is roughly 30% of what you see wet. So it's my guestimate that you will have in the neighborhood of a quarter pound? When was the last time you watered your plants before cutting down?
Better yet Cooter, how long will that last you?
 

Cooter@666

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QP i wish 10oz/4 = 2.5 oz (assuming it dissipates 75% of the moister). I watered it 3 days before the harvest. 2.5 oz will last about a month or so. Me and a few friends will turn all that into ashes fairly quickly. I have another AK that I’ll probably take it at day 70ish of flowering it already has a nice fade going on and I’m looking for a few more ambers trics prior to harvest. It’s going to be my bed time stash. The AK I took last week has dried enough to smoke, the smoke nice and smooth not much taste to it and it has a little “Shazam” in it. It’s good cruzing smoke. I can’t wait to try the mature AK

BTW I sent a nice letter to Senator Dick Face! I have to maintain a DOD Secrete Clearance so I have to do my part covertly J
 

Puna Bud

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QP i wish 10oz/4 = 2.5 oz (assuming it dissipates 75% of the moister). I watered it 3 days before the harvest. 2.5 oz will last about a month or so. Me and a few friends will turn all that into ashes fairly quickly. I have another AK that I’ll probably take it at day 70ish of flowering it already has a nice fade going on and I’m looking for a few more ambers trics prior to harvest. It’s going to be my bed time stash. The AK I took last week has dried enough to smoke, the smoke nice and smooth not much taste to it and it has a little “Shazam” in it. It’s good cruzing smoke. I can’t wait to try the mature AK

BTW I sent a nice letter to Senator Dick Face! I have to maintain a DOD Secrete Clearance so I have to do my part covertly J
being an avid smoker of many different strains. AK-47 was one of the very first ones Itruly loved. I grew some just last season too,and I came away really quite dissapointed. The quality is just not there anymore like it once was. Has anyone else noticed that too with their AK-47 grows?

As for AK-48, Gypsy Nirvana's rip off of Serious Seeds AK-47 name sake. Da "48" has done well in my opinion. Actually it is my opinion that the AK-48 is the best Nirvana has to offer the growing masses. I have serious reservation about Nirvana's testing of new strains. I think they release them to soon with out proper testing. There is just no excuse for a Seedbank to be dealing in "hermies" whatsoever
 

Cooter@666

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being an avid smoker of many different strains. AK-47 was one of the very first ones Itruly loved. I grew some just last season too,and I came away really quite dissapointed. The quality is just not there anymore like it once was. Has anyone else noticed that too with their AK-47 grows?

As for AK-48, Gypsy Nirvana's rip off of Serious Seeds AK-47 name sake. Da "48" has done well in my opinion. Actually it is my opinion that the AK-48 is the best Nirvana has to offer the growing masses. I have serious reservation about Nirvana's testing of new strains. I think they release them to soon with out proper testing. There is just no excuse for a Seedbank to be dealing in "hermies" whatsoever
This is my first experience with Nirvana. I think the Papaya is fairly stable, I’m also growing Bublelicious and Blackberry and should have some finishing around the end of May or the first few weeks of June. So the verdict is still out on those two strains. The AK 48 that I harvested on Saturday has a typical rock hard and dense indica style flower and The AK 48 that is finishing has a light fluffy sativa flower. The plant is at 66 days of flowering and I swear it’s about a week and a half from finishing. I thought it would finish at day 70 but I’m not too sure about that now. There is a lot a variation between the two pheno’s. I took cuttings from both AK pheno’s and will likely keep the strain that has the most potency. In the future I’d like to grow some of Soma’s strains I know his strains are pricy but I truly believe you get what you pay for
 

808toker

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This is my first experience with Nirvana. I think the Papaya is fairly stable, I’m also growing Bublelicious and Blackberry and should have some finishing around the end of May or the first few weeks of June. So the verdict is still out on those two strains. The AK 48 that I harvested on Saturday has a typical rock hard and dense indica style flower and The AK 48 that is finishing has a light fluffy sativa flower. The plant is at 66 days of flowering and I swear it’s about a week and a half from finishing. I thought it would finish at day 70 but I’m not too sure about that now. There is a lot a variation between the two pheno’s. I took cuttings from both AK pheno’s and will likely keep the strain that has the most potency. In the future I’d like to grow some of Soma’s strains I know his strains are pricy but I truly believe you get what you pay for
If you ever decide to get some of somas seeds i HIGHLY recommend the lavender. My favorite strain i have ever smoked.
 

SurfdOut

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I've been pretty bummed with everything Serious Seeds has for sale anymore, Simon lost the original AK and shits weak...Soma gets a little bit, but you can better spend that money on a better breeder......or a Thai massage
 

Cooter@666

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If you ever decide to get some of somas seeds i HIGHLY recommend the lavender. My favorite strain i have ever smoked.
I was thinking about lavender, I want to try the Somango, Amethyst and of coarse the world famus NYCD. I picked up Soma book from Green Hands a few weeks back and i been wanting to try out some of his strains.
 

Cooter@666

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I've been pretty bummed with everything Serious Seeds has for sale anymore, Simon lost the original AK and shits weak...Soma gets a little bit, but you can better spend that money on a better breeder......or a Thai massage
Soma is pretty proud of those seeds and I’ll probably change my mind about 700 times prior to purchasing any seeds....I also have what I believe to be 100% landrace seeds from Afghanistan. A friend brought them back while stationed in Kabul. I'm going to germ those pretty soon.

"Thai Massage"....lol....i always have spare change for one of those :)
 

Cooter@666

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I was hoping to chop this little sucker in about a week or so, but it appears that fate had other plans for this little monster. Yesterday after poking around I discovered a little bud rot starting so I eradicated the rot and harvested the plant. This is the AK-48 with the sativa(ish) pheno. The buggah weighed in at 5oz, I should be looking a good oh-zee once it dries up. It had a mixture of tric’s mostly milky with a few ambers and a few clears….should be decent
 

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