Hawaii Growers

Ya they was flying over my house today back and forth for a while really low. I'm wondering if NED will still be enforcing compliance. Can't wait till the first so I don't have to keep track of what's mature and what's not by their definition

Plants look good Rory, nice size pot you going up to also. Though the next time you pop beans and stick em in the dirt, that is when you should be adding mycorrhizae. They take a bit to become established and the earlier the introduction, the better.

Thanks for the insight Puna!

Puna Bud said:

Let me try and put it in perspective for everyone. AS history points out, anybody in power who is set to lose that power usually runs amok in their last days of power. AS NED will be handing the program over to the Dept. Of Health after the first of the year . So they are putting the screws to us one last time! Things should die down after that! The DEpt. Of Health won't be flying and checking out of gardens. After all the Dept. of Health has been running the Needle Exchange program on Oahu for around ten years or more, and they have never checked up on the junkies that come and grab needles. It makes sense to have your card after the first of the year for sure!

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They are still flying over you guys? That sucks

My buddy lived in volcano for years. I've been visiting him many times, where out of the blue, you hear the chopper coming. We then start shuffling the plants around. That sucks they still fly them things. Sorry

Thanks Hilo, I'll do that next time for sure...

transplanted today. virgin grower. the center light is a 125w 2700K cfl and the outer are 45w 6500K T5s. got myco in direct contact with roots, diatomaceous earth on top, and azomite worked in whole pot. All are in root bags except one in a plastic pot just for comparison on final product.
If anyone has tips on this setup, I'm all ears.

Just ordered for upcoming season from world of seeds their pure origin collection, supposed to be all untouched landrace sativas. 20 beans for $45 plus shipping. What do y'all think? Think this will solve most of my mold and bot problems?

20 seeds per pack

5 Seeds Columbia Gold
5 Seeds Kilimanjaro
5 Seeds South African Kwazulu
5 Seeds Wild Thailand
Exclusive collection of five seeds of each world of seeds sativa varieties.

Rory808 said:

random... did some searching here for threads about when to transplant, and im guessing im about due? started in 12 oz cups, now in 1 gallon, ending up in 25 and 30 gallon pots. the pots theyre in now are about 6 inches across i guess. i had em out today for a bit of the first decent sunshine hilo has seen in over a week. theyre going into the pot below them in the picture... going to add mychorizzal or however you spell that whenever i do this... any other tips? the transplant from seedling to these went fine, but ya final home coming up and i know nothing practically...
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You're plants are looking happy Rory, good job

Mohican said:

Progress!

The triploid baby is a male:




Cheers,
Mo

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Howzit Mo? What's a triploid? Is it something you would want to do some breeding with? And on an unrelated note, do you ever make it back to Maui to visit?

I am hoping I will be there in May or June. Depends on the new job.

Triploid is three sets of DNA instead of the usual two. I don't know whether the three branch structure is actually a triploid trait. I should call it triangle instead!

I moved him inside and he is generating pollen. I will need to grow some new females to find out whether the pollen is viable.

Mohican said:

I am hoping I will be there in May or June. Depends on the new job.

Triploid is three sets of DNA instead of the usual two. I don't know whether the three branch structure is actually a triploid trait. I should call it triangle instead!

I moved him inside and he is generating pollen. I will need to grow some new females to find out whether the pollen is viable.

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Right on if you get to visit in the near future.

Are you saying a true triploid has 3 nucleotides (a triple helix) in its DNA structure? I haven't heard of this before.

Did you post pics here of your triangle/triploid plant before? I missed it if so. So does it have 3 sets of spiraling asymmetrical branches continuing up the main stem? That would be cool if the triangle/triploid branching continued on in the progeny in a beneficial way.

808newb said:

Just ordered for upcoming season from world of seeds their pure origin collection, supposed to be all untouched landrace sativas. 20 beans for $45 plus shipping. What do y'all think? Think this will solve most of my mold and bot problems?

20 seeds per pack

5 Seeds Columbia Gold
5 Seeds Kilimanjaro
5 Seeds South African Kwazulu
5 Seeds Wild Thailand
Exclusive collection of five seeds of each world of seeds sativa varieties.

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I've seen a few reviews of W.O.S. Afgan Kush and they were very positive, but that's the only strain of theirs that I've read about. Hopefully the rest of their wares are just as good.

Those will probably do well against mold I'd think. The only African strain I've grown, and still grow, is Ace's Malawi and they do well against mold and they're probably the toughest plants I have and they yield well and I enjoy the effect a lot. The smell is odd too which I lime, but not everybody does.

I doubt the Colombian Gold is untouched, but I'd be excited to try it.

And I didn't check what W.O.S. said the flowering time is on the Wild Thailand, but you may want to wait until long season for those. Some Thai strains can take up to 20+ weeks to finish. They will probably start to reveg before they finish the short season if that's the case. And FYI, if you do grow those Thai seeds for long season they will most likely get huge. A fellow grower over here used to put out at least a few Thai plants per long season and they'd get 14' tall and 14' wide and he'd pull 12-14lbs. per plant. They wouldn't finish until December or January though.

I be excited to try all of those.

i think my taller ones might be stretchin too much, could be wrong... and i dont know anything about pruning. just growing without any right now. im gunna super crop, probably top. watched a bunch of youtube...

Finishing times(weeks)
5 Seeds Columbia Gold:11-13
5 Seeds Kilimanjaro: 9-10
5 Seeds South African Kwazulu:11-12
5 Seeds Wild Thailand:11-13

I also ordered Ace's Malawi and there tropical mix this weekend. Their advertising says Malawi takes 11-14 weeks and there Tropical mix takes 12-16 depending on what u get. I couldn't imagine having to wait 5 months (20 weeks)to get to harvest!
On a side note tho I was going through some boxes in the garage this weekend and came across a little pill bottle with about 50 beans...I remember them now because my father confiscated them from me when I was 16 back in the day 30 years ago). I doubt they are still viable tho, but where I lived then on the gulf coast, that all we ever got was good brick Mexican. I'm going to try and soak em and see if anything happens.

ACE has a killer Panama strain too that you might enjoy. Congrats on finding the treasure! A few drops of beer in the water can help old seeds germinate. Coconut water is also a reviver of old seeds. Good luck and post pics of the seeds on the saeed pic thread (in my sig link).

Cheers,
Mo

rikdabrick said:

I doubt the Colombian Gold is untouched, but I'd be excited to try it.

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You're right in that account. It's the only one out of all I bought that is not 100% sativa after doing a little more reading. It's 75% sativa 25% indica that they consider a landrace because it's been grown in the Santa Marta area of Colombia since the turn of the 1800's and that simon bolivar used to use it or traded it with the natives in the Amazonia during his conquests...ha ha yea right. It then goes on to say the thc content is 19.3%. If you are an experienced grower, you might want to increase that....let me paraphrase...then goes on to say to hack your plant stalks before harvest so it cuts off nutrient supply thus stressing the plant to create more thc resin. I had to chuckle at that one. I had visions...if this were true don't you think everyone would be doing this? I do t know who they get to write these ads

I think some good P and K will probably give you better results. THC isn't the only good part of a sativa, she has many mysteries

I gifted the MAUI Swazi to TreeManBuds. When he heard I had it he was so amped to try it that I decided he would give them more attention then I have time for right now. I may still get a cutting from him when they are ready.

Cheers,
Mo

Mohican said:

ACE has a killer Panama strain too that you might enjoy. Congrats on finding the treasure! A few drops of beer in the water can help old seeds germinate. Coconut water is also a reviver of old seeds. Good luck and post pics of the seeds on the saeed pic thread (in my sig link).

Cheers,
Mo

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Oia Ka ! I'm really gonna try this. Mahalo for the insight.

@808newb If your seeds have been stored in a pill container in Hawaii for long periods of time, the humidity might render them useless. I would try germ them in a distilled water and hydrogen peroxide solution at 5% with maybe a slight amount of raw sugar. You may have to gently pop them. Place them in a very airy media. Kalo, was it you who posted that rad link awhile back about germing really old seeds?

I believe what they were talking about by cutting into the base of the stalk was how they supposedly made the Columbian Gold. By girdling the plant and effectively killing it, you will have the plant turn colors before harvest.

This is a sales thing, but watch how this guy germs old seeds.

SurfdOut said:

@808newb If your seeds have been stored in a pill container in Hawaii for long periods of time, the humidity might render them useless. I would try germ them in a distilled water and hydrogen peroxide solution at 5% with maybe a slight amount of raw sugar. You may have to gently pop them. Place them in a very airy media. Kalo, was it you who posted that rad link awhile back about germing really old seeds?

I believe what they were talking about by cutting into the base of the stalk was how they supposedly made the Columbian Gold. By girdling the plant and effectively killing it, you will have the plant turn colors before harvest.

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Mahalo Surfd, I recently moved from 4000 ft to 400 feet and really noticed a change in humidity. I'm getting Ma'a to it. Thanks for your support. Oni Pa'a.

SurfdOut said:

This is a sales thing, but watch how this guy germs old seeds.

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My goodness, SurfdOut, that was an awesome and encouraging presentation. Thanks for spending the time to find these nugs and especially for passing them on to us.

'O 'oe ke mea nui i keia la!

kupihea said:

Mahalo Surfd, I recently moved from 4000 ft to 400 feet and really noticed a change in humidity. I'm getting Ma'a to it. Thanks for your support. Oni Pa'a.

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Really? Me too, from Kau back to Puna. The weather is so nice at 4,000 ft but dang does it get cold at night.