Hawaii Growers

hotpotato8

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My 3 outdoor girls are now starting to preflower after 7 weeks since germination. None are autoflowering. Is this OK? I was thinking I would have more of a vegetative period. After moving them to their final 7 gallon pots I topped and LST'd them. After pulling the branches down using the animal balloon trick they're about 14 inches high.
 

rikdabrick

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My 3 outdoor girls are now starting to preflower after 7 weeks since germination. None are autoflowering. Is this OK? I was thinking I would have more of a vegetative period. After moving them to their final 7 gallon pots I topped and LST'd them. After pulling the branches down using the animal balloon trick they're about 14 inches high.
If they're all doing it it's probably normal as a general guideline. Different strains are going to react differently to the outdoor light cycle.

What's the animal balloon trick?
 

hotpotato8

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What's the animal balloon trick?

A previous poster said he used animal balloons for LSTing. I tied the ends of a long balloon together to form a loop. I looped it over the branch I wanted to LST. Then I connected the other end of the loop to a pipecleaner which I had attached to my container via drilled holes. 8 holes per container. It made for easy adjustment and spread out the stress on the branch of the plant.
 

rikdabrick

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A previous poster said he used animal balloons for LSTing. I tied the ends of a long balloon together to form a loop. I looped it over the branch I wanted to LST. Then I connected the other end of the loop to a pipecleaner which I had attached to my container via drilled holes. 8 holes per container. It made for easy adjustment and spread out the stress on the branch of the plant.
That's cool, thanks for the tip! I usually just bend and pinch branches if I get a plant that's got too much internode spacing for my liking, but the balloon trick is a good one.

And I take back a little of what I said because even the same clones can act differently under our light cycle at different times. I'll try to get some pics of two clones of the same plant up in the next couple days. They were planted about 3 weeks apart. One started flowering and hasn't missed a beat. The other started flowering and decided to reveg and oddly enough two other ones were planted maybe 3-4 weeks later, I think, and flowered without stopping which is weird and I can't tell you what made the difference to make one of four reveg. So some of growing is just growing with flow. Also, this reveg plant is one of the exceptions for me. Usually I'll cull a reveg plant, but this one revegged early enough and with enough vigor to keep it. So again, it's not a totally hard and fast rule, but you get a feel for it with time and mistakes. Generally though, my opinion is usually reveg plants aren't worth the time. My point is there is kind of general "normals" for growing cannabis in the tropics (specifically Hawaii), but "normal" is somewhat fluid and not set in stone.
 

hotpotato8

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Lots of white pistils on all three plants. Now, I'm focused on spotting signs of the plants going 'hermie', probably due to stress. I've lost a lot of inner fan leaves when they started flowering. Everything else looks nice and green. Since this is my first grow I'm gonna continue with what I have and see what the yield is like. Each plant has at least 12 buds, due to early topping. Since it's still early I'm still giving them vegetative nutes. One of these posts I'll try to get some pics up.
 

guido420

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Nice @guido420 How's the smell? I'll definitely give you the award for most stylish pics too, ha ha.

Thanks Bruddah,

The smell is sweet with a spicy tinge. The top was tight and sugary. Felt like a small rubber mallet. We did a quick dry on some bottom scrugs, wholly crap. Smokes/tastes, almost like ChemDog with a touch of Champagne Diesel. Smooth.

Smoke a 1/2 gram, between two and the over all high lasts hours. The headlock lasts about a half hour though.

The "challenger" using Humbolt County's Own is coming down tonight. Pics to follow.

Peace
 

waterproof808

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Hey Guido, do you find a lot of uniformity when growing auto's or are there big differences from seed to seed? It is my understanding that you cant clone an auto and have to grow each one from seed, so I would expect there to be some differences between seeds of the same stock.
 

rikdabrick

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That's cool, thanks for the tip! I usually just bend and pinch branches if I get a plant that's got too much internode spacing for my liking, but the balloon trick is a good one.

And I take back a little of what I said because even the same clones can act differently under our light cycle at different times. I'll try to get some pics of two clones of the same plant up in the next couple days. They were planted about 3 weeks apart. One started flowering and hasn't missed a beat. The other started flowering and decided to reveg and oddly enough two other ones were planted maybe 3-4 weeks later, I think, and flowered without stopping which is weird and I can't tell you what made the difference to make one of four reveg. So some of growing is just growing with flow. Also, this reveg plant is one of the exceptions for me. Usually I'll cull a reveg plant, but this one revegged early enough and with enough vigor to keep it. So again, it's not a totally hard and fast rule, but you get a feel for it with time and mistakes. Generally though, my opinion is usually reveg plants aren't worth the time. My point is there is kind of general "normals" for growing cannabis in the tropics (specifically Hawaii), but "normal" is somewhat fluid and not set in stone.
So here's some of the plants I was talking about.

This one is my Sky Pipe #1 and flowered without without missing a beat. She's almost finished in this pic.
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This one is my Sky Pipe #2 and was planted at the same time as the #1 in the previous pic. Same strain, different pheno and also almost done.
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And here is another Sky Pipe #1 that was planted no more than a few weeks later and decided to do a kind of a half-assed reveg. It's kind of flowering, but mostly vegging. It's hard to tell from the pic, but it's a little over 6' tall at the tallest and over 6' wide at the widest. And the one to the back right and the ones in the back left are also Sky Pipe #1 and were planted probably two to three weeks after this one and didn't reveg which is the weird part. So once in awhile you get some odd variables that don't fit into the general rules of thumb.
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rikdabrick

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Here's some show and tell pics :)

Here's a bud pic of some Jamaican x Goji OG. It was reveg plant I flowered out with a longer veg time on the reveg and I wanted to see how it would do. It actually exceeded my expectations, but I didn't support it well enough and the top cola stem snapped so it was early on the harvest, but it still looks good and the feedback has been really good. It has a really good up effect and puts you in a good mood to get some stuff done. Pretty much my favorite type of high.
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My first run of Chemdawg. I like it a lot. It has good structure and a lovely smell, but doesn't handle the humidity once it starts bulking up as well as the rest of the plants I keep around. It wasn't bad though; I just had a few more buds I had to cut out than normal
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Here's the top cola of the Sky Pipe #2 with some size comparison.
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And one of the many side branches.
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Sky Pipe #2 bud shot
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And up close of the top cola.
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I set up a little 2'x4'x4' tent for males. I'm pretty stoked it's working. The tent was cheap off of craigslist. And the lights were cheap from Costco and Home Depot and it's only using about 72 watts of electricity. There be some pollen chucking in my future, ha ha.
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And just for kicks and because it's such a rad place.... My wife and kids surprised me for Father's Day and took me up to Iao Valley. We cruised around and had a picnic lunch, good times :)
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Alright, I'm off to bed. Talk to you braddahs bumbye :)
 

Vnsmkr

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Here's some show and tell pics :)

Here's a bud pic of some Jamaican x Goji OG. It was reveg plant I flowered out with a longer veg time on the reveg and I wanted to see how it would do. It actually exceeded my expectations, but I didn't support it well enough and the top cola stem snapped so it was early on the harvest, but it still looks good and the feedback has been really good. It has a really good up effect and puts you in a good mood to get some stuff done. Pretty much my favorite type of high.
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My first run of Chemdawg. I like it a lot. It has good structure and a lovely smell, but doesn't handle the humidity once it starts bulking up as well as the rest of the plants I keep around. It wasn't bad though; I just had a few more buds I had to cut out than normal
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Here's the top cola of the Sky Pipe #2 with some size comparison.
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And one of the many side branches.
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Sky Pipe #2 bud shot
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And up close of the top cola.
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I set up a little 2'x4'x4' tent for males. I'm pretty stoked it's working. The tent was cheap off of craigslist. And the lights were cheap from Costco and Home Depot and it's only using about 72 watts of electricity. There be some pollen chucking in my future, ha ha.
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And just for kicks and because it's such a rad place.... My wife and kids surprised me for Father's Day and took me up to Iao Valley. We cruised around and had a picnic lunch, good times :)
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Alright, I'm off to bed. Talk to you braddahs bumbye :)
Looking mighty excellent bruddah! Fatass buds on those sky pipes and that Goji cross looks fookin badass, nice bud
 

waterproof808

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Here's some show and tell pics :)

Here's a bud pic of some Jamaican x Goji OG. It was reveg plant I flowered out with a longer veg time on the reveg and I wanted to see how it would do. It actually exceeded my expectations, but I didn't support it well enough and the top cola stem snapped so it was early on the harvest, but it still looks good and the feedback has been really good. It has a really good up effect and puts you in a good mood to get some stuff done. Pretty much my favorite type of high.
I gotta pop some of the Goji crosses I made. It handles the humidity here pretty darn well, even the big spear cola pheno's.
 

rikdabrick

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Hey Rik, you get any visits from GH this week? Sounds like they been flying pretty hard over there this week and doing lots of compliance checks for properly tagged plants. Good chance they will work BI next week.
Man I dropped the ball on that one. I should have let you guys know they were here this week because if they're here they ain't there and you can be a little more relaxed.

So yes, they were here and they were flying pretty hard. We had 3-4 birds that flew 3 or 4 days here. I heard of a couple people who had compliance checks. One of the guys was over by 3 plants and they cut down all 10 of his plants (aaah, supah lame).

My guess they're checking hard to get as many plants as they can to try to help justify their funding. I know of very few guerrilla grows here anymore so GH isn't getting the numbers they used to and they need numbers to justify the massive bill they put on the taxpayers. I think just fuel cost alone for the 3 helicopters here for one 8 hour day is something like $24,000. I'm pretty sure though, they didn't get any more state funding this year than they did last year and if that's the case then they're going to be burning through a lot of their budget this month which at least means we have to deal with them less for the rest of the year. The only flew 8 days here last year with only two helicopters each day. So maybe I only have 1-3 more days to deal with them for the rest of the year depending on how many days and choppers they fly.

I gotta pop some of the Goji crosses I made. It handles the humidity here pretty darn well, even the big spear cola pheno's.
That's some good info to know. I have a pack of Goji OG I want to pop and wasn't sure how it would handle the humidity. One of the guys in the Bodhi thread said he thought the Goji crosses he grew were all really good, but none of them was as good as the straight Goji OG, so that's why I bought a pack. I'm planning on popping a pack of Silver Mountain for my next pack though. I'll pop the Goji OG pack after that.
 

rikdabrick

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Man I dropped the ball on that one. I should have let you guys know they were here this week because if they're here they ain't there and you can be a little more relaxed.

So yes, they were here and they were flying pretty hard. We had 3-4 birds that flew 3 or 4 days here. I heard of a couple people who had compliance checks. One of the guys was over by 3 plants and they cut down all 10 of his plants (aaah, supah lame).

My guess they're checking hard to get as many plants as they can to try to help justify their funding. I know of very few guerrilla grows here anymore so GH isn't getting the numbers they used to and they need numbers to justify the massive bill they put on the taxpayers. I think just fuel cost alone for the 3 helicopters here for one 8 hour day is something like $24,000. I'm pretty sure though, they didn't get any more state funding this year than they did last year and if that's the case then they're going to be burning through a lot of their budget this month which at least means we have to deal with them less for the rest of the year. The only flew 8 days here last year with only two helicopters each day. So maybe I only have 1-3 more days to deal with them for the rest of the year depending on how many days and choppers they fly.


That's some good info to know. I have a pack of Goji OG I want to pop and wasn't sure how it would handle the humidity. One of the guys in the Bodhi thread said he thought the Goji crosses he grew were all really good, but none of them was as good as the straight Goji OG, so that's why I bought a pack. I'm planning on popping a pack of Silver Mountain for my next pack though. I'll pop the Goji OG pack after that.
I may have dropped the ball on letting you guys know, but I did text every grower I know when I spotted GH flying. It's really helpful to have a network of people who keep an eye out for each other.
 
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hotpotato8

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OK, as a first time grower I've run into trouble. Yesterday one of my girls looked completely limp. I knew it wasn't overwatering so I ran some water through her to check the pH. I've usually been pHing my nutes down to 6.2 before adding them to my pot. Anyway, the runoff after plain pH 6.2 water flushing was over 9. Yikes ! How can a drop the pH of my soil quickly? Should I flush it with 6.2 pH water or use a lower pH flush to bring the soil down?
 
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