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Topo

Topo

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Ok, gonna try to hit the magic mark of 6.5. Nothing but the best for my babies. And I'd be totally interested to see what pH rainwater is. Judging by the response.....it is alkaline?
 
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pcal

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tap water is supposed to be regulated at neutral or ph 7.0 to protect the pipes from corroding if the water becomes too acidic.
the problem is, our water is chemically set to ph 7.0 with lime.

rain water tends to be acidic and is great for plants. don't know what the ph is but it did test acidic when i tested it.
 
Topo

Topo

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pcal said:
tap water is supposed to be regulated at neutral or ph 7.0 to protect the pipes from corroding if the water becomes too acidic.
the problem is, our water is chemically set to ph 7.0 with lime.

rain water tends to be acidic and is great for plants. don't know what the ph is but it did test acidic when i tested it.
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Very cool, thanks for the information. So what is my best bet? Pool supply store? Pet store? I went to a pet store today, and their pH Up/Down sold in tiny little bottles. I am used to having pints of this shit around!
 
Sheckster

Sheckster

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You want about 5.8 pH for vegging and about 6.5 for flowering for optimal results...
Note that different strains have some what of a variance in their pH....
Example... Some sour diesel strains will not veg at all if they are not between 5.8-6.0..

As far as pH down goes... it is just 1 mol of citric acid (concentration unit for chemistry :) . Theoretically, You could use any type of acid to lower your pH..
You could lower your ph with lemon juice :)

In most cases rain water is only acidic in industrialized areas... as it picks up the different chemicals in the air that are spewed out...

Tap water is actually more basic ( solutions are either acidic,neutral, or basic) not because of pipes, but because of our bodies.. mostly our teeth...
Humans can't survive on water that is too basic or too acidic... needs to be close to neutral but on the alkaline side...
 
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Puna Bud

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Topo said:
Very cool, thanks for the information. So what is my best bet? Pool supply store? Pet store? I went to a pet store today, and their pH Up/Down sold in tiny little bottles. I am used to having pints of this shit around!
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brah, do yourself a favor,...don't buy any of that shit! Be an organic dirt farmer like myself. If you really only want the best for your "ladies", I highly suggest you go organic my friend. By this I mean don't buy PH Up or PH Down. Instead I suggest you replace your "PH UP" with Baking Soda, and for "PH down",go with "Apple Cidar Vinegar". If you're into "live" soil, PH Up & PH Down kills just about everything under the dirt line.
Myself, I'm on a 'Catchment Water System',over in Puna where I live. So my water PH can change daily. So having PH Pen has really been blessing in disguise for me. But now that I've changed over to the Vegan Style method of cannabis growing, I really no longer need a PH Pen,..to PH water! But I still use it to determine PPM on nutes.

Topo, not to change the subject. But when was the last time you spoke with your old classmate Barry? Because of that man who spoke so elequently, I voted for the first time in over 20 years! At the time of the presidential campaign, I felt in awe of this man from Punahou. "Change that you can believe in", wasn't that his campaign moto? Well, I fell for it "hook line & sinker". But I noticed cracks within his ship almost the same day he took his oath to office. Over & over in my head I kept hearing, "Change that you can believe in". Almost immeadiately after he took office, I started to feel uncomfortable. Was this because there really was no change that I could openly see? Barry naming Timothy Geithner[sp],head of the financial cabinet/world was not change you could believe in!? It was business as usual in the old "Status Quo" manner. Geithner was instrumental in bringing down the banking world & Wall Street when him and his old work partners from Goldman Sachs were in charge. So this was a big let down for me with Barry. Togo, I believe the liberal/progressives & Independants sectors of our society put Barry into office on Pennsylvania Ave. in 2008. The same people who put him into office back then won't be coming out for the mid-terms. What has he done for the progressive side of his base? He hasn't kept much of his campaign promises, and as a matter of fact has started to even look like GW Bush himself with some of his thinking & polices.

Why Barry will only bew a one term president:

!.) Barry Obama proved to America and the rest of the world that,...America isn't ready for a Black President yet.

2.) Obama dropped ball with gay Community

3.) Obama dropped ball with hispanic community

4.) Barry failed to pick up the ball with the Medical Cannabis Community

5.) This one really rubs me wrong. Barry's refusal to prosecute Bush' Cabinet members for torture & other hanis[sp] crimes they commited over past 8 years Bush was in Office. The lastest one that Barry refuses to take to trial, former Attorney General John Ascroft. Ascroft actually thinks he's above the law for crimes commited while he headed that dept. Letting these pricks off the hook while Obama sits in the Oval Office will come back to bite his on his ass down the road. Why he is letting these assholes offf the hook is beyond wildest dreams. What he's doing is very dangerous. Dangerous to his legacy especially, but dangerous to all that is concerned.
Now he's turned his back on the cannabis community, who will help re-elect this guy?

6.)But the worst is Barry's refusal to admit,....he use 'Miracle Gro'!?!?
 
Topo

Topo

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Thanks to both of you for your well thought out responses. I learned a lot through just those two replies. 8)

I will change the direction of my grow(s) to go more organic, now that I see it is simpler than I thought. Thank you for that guys.

And Puna, yeah, about Barry, I voted for him because he was just a cool ass dude that I hung out with in high school. I am not much of a political kind of guy, but yeah, Barry has not made good on his promises. When I lived in Georgia, I couldn't tell anyone we were good friends in high school, because they would tear me a new one. Man, they hate the guy. :cuss:

At this point, I just hope the easing of marijuana laws continues. :eyesmoke:
 
Cooter@666

Cooter@666

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I just bought one of these suckers on Ebay "Milwaukee pH Pen PH600" for $23(shipping included). Dont know how well it works yet...but i should know here in the next 5 days. most of the reviews i read on it were positive so i snagged it
 
Topo

Topo

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Ok gangy, at what point would it be too late to start an outside grow? :confused: I don't want to risk re-vegging if I start something now, especially sativas :hump:.
I just got one major step closer to my med blue card. 8) I know autos are weaksauce, but at least I'll have something to :bigjoint:. So I will take the auto route as well.

Mahalo!
 
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Puna Bud

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Cooter@666 said:
I just bought one of these suckers on Ebay "Milwaukee pH Pen PH600" for $23(shipping included). Dont know how well it works yet...but i should know here in the next 5 days. most of the reviews i read on it were positive so i snagged it[/QUOt you pTE]

my mommy use to always tell me, "boy, you get what you pay for". A PH Pen that cost $23.00 and that includes shipping too sounds great in a 'perfect world'. But in our world, to good to be true? Does it do just PH readings, or does it take PPM readings too?
Personally, when it comes to the internet, I'm one of it's biggest supporters. It's the greatest invention since the wheel,...but. When it comes to sensitive products for my ladies. I'd much rather be able to physically purchase these products from a local retail store. Simply because of the exchange factor. But good luck with your purchase. I believe every grower should have this tool in his or her grow arsenal.
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Cooter@666

Cooter@666

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Topo said:
Ok gangy, at what point would it be too late to start an outside grow? :confused: I don't want to risk re-vegging if I start something now, especially sativas :hump:.
I just got one major step closer to my med blue card. 8) I know autos are weaksauce, but at least I'll have something to :bigjoint:. So I will take the auto route as well.

Mahalo!
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I veg indoors then throw the girls outdoors to flower
 
Cooter@666

Cooter@666

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Puna Bud said:
Cooter@666 said:
I just bought one of these suckers on Ebay "Milwaukee pH Pen PH600" for $23(shipping included). Dont know how well it works yet...but i should know here in the next 5 days. most of the reviews i read on it were positive so i snagged it[/QUOt you pTE]

my mommy use to always tell me, "boy, you get what you pay for". A PH Pen that cost $23.00 and that includes shipping too sounds great in a 'perfect world'. But in our world, to good to be true? Does it do just PH readings, or does it take PPM readings too?
Personally, when it comes to the internet, I'm one of it's biggest supporters. It's the greatest invention since the wheel,...but. When it comes to sensitive products for my ladies. I'd much rather be able to physically purchase these products from a local retail store. Simply because of the exchange factor. But good luck with your purchase. I believe every grower should have this tool in his or her grow arsenal.
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The meter has a range of 0 to 14 and It's worth the gamble for $23 ....if it holds up then kudos to my thriftyness... if it fails after a few uses no big whoop i would have spent the same amount of $ on the jiffy soil testers (probably more X number of plants times $4 adds up quick) ....as I get better with growing I’ll replace my crap eq with something of quality.
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ramie808

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aloha rollitup ohana! just rooted some O.G. Kush clones and was wondering if any other medical patients on oahu possibly wanted to trade strains?
 
mauichronic808

mauichronic808

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ay what size are your plants before you put them outdoors, i have a 7.5" plant thats looking pretty impressive at only 3.5 weeks since sprout. wondering when to throw it outdoors, been lots of rain lately
 
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