Hayduke's Seldom Seen Garden

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hehehe, don't ya know it

just waiting delivery of a mini scope I got foe $14.00ca so I can check the trichs



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Nice! I have one I got at radio shack for ~$12 USD. It is a 60x-100x, way too much magnification. At 60X it is a bitch to hold still enough to stay focused. I need a 10x-30x or a drive lens to put on my daughters camera (I think my lens is too large). Moved everyone into the flower box under the HPS. Not many more watts/sq.ft. but triple the lumens @
9,166 lumens/sq.ft.

SO after moving the red diesel girls into the flower box to finish vegging, I decided it was a waste of power to run both boxes if not needed and moved the kush x trainwreck and the headband under the hps also. Turning off the veg box saves 300w. The pics were taken last night. #3 red diesel (slow to show) was still in a small nursery pot and showing signs of being cramped. I fed her last night and re-potted into 3 gal today. Pic shows droopiness from the pot and the watering. She is happier today. Also since her LST was not so "L" and more "S" (stem pinched when bent) and since there is little chance of her standing up again, I let her loose.

#1 and #4 while I did not break or pinch the stem when bent, it deffinately slowed them down. The tops are back up today and the fan leaves are not tired looking so I expect the rapid growth to pick back up. So it is not no-stress-training! I think that though it may slow me down by a week or two, the work will be paid off in the harvest. Maybe not worth it if I had more headroom.

Well even an idiot can clone. The male cuttings have begun to root. The pic is 5 days. The smaller cuttings are the ones that are rooting best. You can tell they are rooting/growing as the foliage starts to lighten. The best size seems to be one small open set of leaves and one set to cut. The larger tops have woodier stems and have not started yet. still dark green. The male flowers on the tops have continued to mature a little even under 24/0 and are starting to worry me a little. I still have the topped and tied #2 male as well. I am unsure if I really want to mess with pollen as this grow still has the potential to be successful!

Pics: Flower box, Kush x Trainwreck (looks like sprinkled with gold dust, don't know if pic will show), roots!

lookin good brosef. keep them plants live.

I've got that "gold dust" looking stuff on mine too. Does yours feel a little rough to the touch? Only have it on one plant though. Its a really goofy plant. didn't do a thing to it and it has like 5 "main" colas on it. They arne't going to be much, and it aint gonna produce much - but I will say the thing is frosting up a heck of a lot more then the others. I'll post some new pics tomorrow, you should check 'em out.

Your grow is lookin good dood!

DivinePower said:

I've got that "gold dust" looking stuff on mine too. Does yours feel a little rough to the touch? Only have it on one plant though. Its a really goofy plant. didn't do a thing to it and it has like 5 "main" colas on it. They arne't going to be much, and it aint gonna produce much - but I will say the thing is frosting up a heck of a lot more then the others. I'll post some new pics tomorrow, you should check 'em out.

Your grow is lookin good dood!

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yup, kinda like fine sand paper. What strain of yours is looking golden?

took 20 clones last night...pics later.

I wish I had the room to flower more plants then I do, but... I'm just happy i'm growin!!

That's exactly how my feels. The white widow is the one that has it. You'll see it in the next pics, I'll make sure there is a picture of it for ya. I'd love to know what the heck it is!

I am guessing it is vitamin THC, as it is on my trainwreck x kush and your WW. Both are very potent strains/crosses. I will be looking for your pics mañana!

¡Hasta!

Last night I took 20 clones (10 kush x trainwreck, 10 red diesel) and placed them in 1.5" rockwool cubes that had soaked in pH 6.0 water for 24hrs.

The K-train clones were all taken from #3 as she showed impressive growth once finally rooted and has nice structure in her lower branch(s) and stem. She was not the tallest or the fastest originally but earned her spot as the mom that I will keep.

The red diesels were taken from the lower branches of #1 and #4. They are fairly small but will probably take. I accidentally took 12 and only had 10 soaked cubes. a couple were really small, and rather than waste any I put 3 in one whole just to see what happens.

No, I do not need anywhere near 20 clones. I am hoping to put 12 in 3" cubes and trade my 215 "collective grow" dispensary for bud as I will run out soon. they are selling clones for $25 right now, I imagine I could get a couple of 1/8ths for 12 rooted clones that they will sell for $300.

#3 red diesel is still kinda droopy. I am not sure if it is from thirst or cuz she is wet as a couple of inches down it is moist but the bottom has not been wet yet since transplant. The other 2 are standing with leaves stiff and straight.

The two K-Train: They had been very light green a couple of weeks back when I watered with 1 tsp/gal epsom salts. They greened up and the lower growth remains dark green. However, the tops are again lightening up. I am not sure if it is a magnesium def. or nitrogen or both. Or if watering for a few weeks with tap water has locked out magnesium from too much calcuim. Or a combo of several factors. Although I have read about using epsom salts being good, I have also read that this will cause other problems and is an overused fix. Like usual it is hard to know who is more full of shit (ME!) In defense of it being a mag def. It cleared up when used, and really did not get much as each plant only got 500-700ml, actually on 2 different occasions.

They also are droopy on only the newest growth but not past about the third set of leaves down. Note: the clones all looked this way but after being misted they perk up. So I pulled #1 and #2 out of the box and misted them. One kinda did the same as the clones the other a little less. The tops still look kinda funny, maybe just the trainwreck?

Any thought on the light color or weird looking tops (they are not so much droopy as they are curly and pointing down rather than out, not soft and droopy)

Pics: 1 = 20 clones, diesel on left

2 = K-Train

3 = all

4 = # 3 K-train, now Mommy. Will veg for more clones

yeah man be careful with that epsom shit. i was using it at first during veg because of an Mg defie

yeah man be careful with that epsom salt. i was using it at first during veg because of an Mg deficiency, but apparantly did not need to continue using it into flower since it started locking out potassium and turning some leaves brown on the NL and one of the skywalker. ive been having to feed with double strength grow big now to try and help before the rest of the fan leaves fall off... so yeah, use that shit sparingly. i used 1/2 tbl per gal by the way, it helped a lot during veg just not for flower obviously!

Thanks for the tip DK. How many times did they get the 1/2 T/gal epsom salts? I think part of it is nitrogen also, but I am just nervous about using too much du to my previous mishaps... Next watering will be 3/4 strength from the nute chart, to try to bump up the nitrogen. I also have some high N Bat shit I may top dress or make a tea, again I am cautious!

#3 red diesel that was droopy was just thirsty. I gave her 3 liters last night (400ml ran out ) with SPT at a full dose. Plants sure love that stinky shit, she is up and growing again. #1 and #4 look good but growth has been very slow since the LST. They are due for a drink today and will get 2.5 liters with a 1/2 dose SPT.

i was giving them 1/2tbl every other day all the way through veg and the first few weeks of flowering. i didnt stop until a few weeks ago when i started to notice some leaves turning brown with little spots all over them. i matched it up to my grow bible and sure enough it looked just like K def. which is caused by high salinity in the soil! so i started to flush with water and grow big since it had the highest rate of K20 in it i figured that was best. strange it only happened to 2 of the 8 plants though. its fairly obvious now the other 6 all have their fans leaves pointed straight up and these two are all droopy with crispy leaves now still a few weeks left so i hope i caught the problem in time for them to recover!

updated my pics, can't see the "gold dust" perfect... but you can tell. You figure out what this stuff is yet? I'd love to know.

Everyone is fed and happy. #3 is lush dark green and even though she was essentially broken (LST gone bad) has healed and has almost stood back up. the bend area is even stronger than before so I don't think I will hold her back anymore. Her lower growth, which has been getting good light since the LST, has formed nice strong stems that should make for nice colas.

# 1 and #4 (red diesels in group shot are left to right 3,1,4) are also getting some good growth to the lower branches and both have formed a canopy with the top and 5 or so lower branches all at the same height. They are screaming for me to let them flower! Heavy luscious pre-flowers and tight nodes on tops. The diesels after LST are now 15" +/- 1".

Lights to 12/12 on Sat! (gotta run both boxes again)

Correction to previous: all diesels got full dose SPT

The K-train and the headband re-veg had 3/4 of FF nute chart for veg (up from 1/2 dose) and 1Tablespoon of Epsom salts. I am hoping that either the incresed N or the Mg fixes the yellowing. Today the headband are already greening back up, no reaponse from the k-train yet. K-train are ~12" and will probably follow the diesels into flower in about 2 more weeks. Will have headband clones soon and I am thinking of starting 2 seeds each of power skunk and the AK-48. I may also sex those even sooner than the last (4-5") to save space. Earlier LST.

Pics: box, #3, headband re-veg, wanting to flower, #4, #1, K-train

The Red diesel cuttings are looking haggard and since flowering begins today, I took 8 more clones from lower branches. I also wanted to try to root a couple from #3 since she has become so beautiful and strong. One of the older RD cuttings actually has a root out the bottom, but her top looks rough. They will probably make it anyway. All 10 of the k-train clones look really good, they are rooting but none out the bottom yet. Today is 1 week on the original 20 and day 1 for the new 8.

The experiment on the male cuttings: nice roots out of cubes, cuttings in glass of water with no hormones are rooting though much slower, The 2 male tops (1 soil, 1 rockwool) and the other 2 soil clones were thrown out a week ago due to big balls and no roots. I was getting nervous about the pollen. I opened up the trash bag, and they have all rooted. The soil cuttings though rooted were not in soil in the bag.

Pics:#1 L>R 8 new Red Diesel cuttings, 10 RD @ week 1, 10 K-train @wk 1
#2 Rooted males
#3 " " water only
#4 " " trashed but now rooted

Veg box has been fired back up.

Pics:
#1 veg box
#2 #1 kush x trainwreck (k-train)
#3 k-train
#4 K-train mommy
#5 Mom's stalk
#6 Headband zombies (post harvest re-veg)

After 8 long weeks of veg the RD girls have been put to flower. I only have about another 6 inches of height. I probably waited to long to flower, but we'll see. Might just have to tie down some tops. I saw at Home Depot today they have a net trellis (like a hockey net) and also some rubber coated plant stakes. They have a cool 16" grid with four 24" legs. Anyhow they grew an inch in the dark and look pretty good.

The pics:
#1- RD #3
#2- " " showing nice form
#3- RD width
#4- RD #1
#5- RD #4
#6- " " stalk
#7- flower box day 1 flower Red Diesel L>R: #3,#1,#4

Looking good dude. I'm trying to figure out if I shoul harvest tonige or tomorrow. I posted a question about it in the general forum.

its all about the trichs man. unless youre poor like me and cant afford weed then you harvest early lol. im plannin to chop one of mine this weekend. its been 7 weeks i figure its good enough to smoke by 8. oh yeah lookin good there hayduke. the zombies finally coming to life!! haha i might have to try that with some of mine. i dont see why not. actually i was thinking just chopping the main colas first and letting the bottom buds fill out some more. theyre not lookin like very much at the moment.