Hayduke's Seldom Seen Garden

Hayduke

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+ killer grow

why do you not trim before hang drying ?
Thanks dude.

I am trying to follow my grow bro's advice on as much as I can. He grew professionally for the Bay area clubs for many years.

Although trimming is MUCH easier to do when first cut, Not doing so provides some protection from the loss of trichromes due to being knocked around, as well as THC degradation from light. Also helps to keep the drying process from progressing too fast (also the reason for cutting whole plant rather than colas) which can cause nice buds to smell and taste grassy.

I do not know shit, but my buds smell exotically yummy rather than pre-masticated horse shit.

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boston george 54

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Thanks dude.

I am trying to follow my grow bro's advice on as much as I can. He grew professionally for the Bay area clubs for many years.

Although trimming is MUCH easier to do when first cut, Not doing so provides some protection from the loss of trichromes due to being knocked around, as well as THC degradation from light. Also helps to keep the drying process from progressing too fast (also the reason for cutting whole plant rather than colas) which can cause nice buds to smell and taste grassy.

I do not know shit, but my buds smell exotically yummy rather than pre-masticated horse shit.

:leaf::peace::leaf:
gottcha i have always cut my before hand but as i am in middle of harvest i will try one your way
 

DubB83

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Do you feel like a proud gardener? I would. Seems like you produced an enjoyable amount of medicine. I wonder what it will smell/taste like after a full cure.
 

Hayduke

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oh man that looks delicious!!! can i have some? cant wait for that k-train huh!
Yeah the K-train is going to be sick. I have had a few one-hitters from pieces I have cut out due to male parts. My buddy thinks it is from a 24hr light schedule. Pretty much everything in the garden is doing this and it is the common denominator, that or light intensity. Not a huge deal but frustrating as everything (moms) have all had 24hrs light so problem may continue. My LA conf and Skunk Kush cuttings have not so we will see if they come out clean. But the trainwreck will be very nice!

Do you feel like a proud gardener? I would. Seems like you produced an enjoyable amount of medicine. I wonder what it will smell/taste like after a full cure.
Yes I do feel pretty good! Though I have dreamed of having this, it is still not set in that I have produced more medicine than I can probably smoke! The ex-wife asks to come "home" daily...she has never lived here and we have been split for 11 years! I will kick her some and gave her boyfriend clones to encourage their self sufficiency.

It smells great now,had a couple of bong hits to taste last night, it is slightly harsh and not much flavor good or bad. I hope the flavor will come in, they only got a 2 watering flush (#1 and #3) I have other buds so I can let it cure.

Very nice bro!

Id + rep ya if it would let me, nice harvest !

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Thanks dudes!!!!!!

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Baz

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Hey Hayduke i took 12 clones the last tuesday, just wandering what are the signs that a clone has taken to its medium, they are all still holding their selfs up appart from 1, how long does it usually take duds, what should i be looking out for, also some of them have yellowing lower leaves
tia
 

Hayduke

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Hey Hayduke i took 12 clones the last tuesday, just wandering what are the signs that a clone has taken to its medium, they are all still holding their selfs up appart from 1, how long does it usually take duds, what should i be looking out for, also some of them have yellowing lower leaves
tia
I saw the pics and they looked a little droopy. I have not had the patience to root in soil, I tried while experimenting with torturing the males and gave up and tossed them in the trash. They were in an opaque trash bag near the growbox and a couple of weeks later I looked and they had, in the bag, turned towards the light and all had fully rooted.

Did you use straight pH'd water? Yellowing is normal, I get yellowing on top if I do not use light nutes, the trade off is with nutes, rooting is drastically slower.

My clones usually look really good while they have not rooted (standing tall and straight. So I am a little worried about your babies (they will be fine I am a worrier) Thicker, woodier cuttings will droop more. Sometimes misting will make them perk up, as they are having trouble transpiring with no roots.

You can tell when they are starting to root when you see they youngest growth on the tops lighten in color and then new growth.

For some reason, the little rockwool cubes work really good.

I have had roots in 5-7 days in rockwool with only water, they look a little rough but do well. With nutes or another medium 2-3 weeks, so patience is needed.

I will be thinking of your babies!

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DubB83

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I also wanted to chime in, my clones change color and thickness right where they enter the medium, that is how I know it is rooting.
 

Baz

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Ok thanks alot, the only ferts they are getting is whats in the soil, i'll try misting them ive been giving them a small amount of water daily and my cfl hood is about 6inch away lol is that ok and yes normal water
 

Hayduke

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Might be too much light, I would back it way back. I use less than 40 watts over mine and the height depends. My buddy uses 1 20w flouro tube. Right now I am using 2 14w daylight spectrum cfl's and it is 1 foot above the babies, and sometimes add a 23w in place of 1 14w, or just move near the veg box to get them used to stronger light.

My only attempt at rooting in soil was with my seedling mix which has no nutes...

A seedling heat mat or an old water bed heater helps keep medium warm. The seedling mats are too hot so I elevate the tray above the mat with some shims of wood. They make a thermostat or you could put on a timer also.

Most use a humidity dome, and if I cut all at once I use for the first 2-4 days. Lately I have had cuttings at different stages of rooting and have not used the dome with no real difference. They probably stand taller with the dome and extra humidity.

Since yours are approaching a week old I think they will be fine! But again may take another week or even two to root. Another reason I like the rockwool, as I would be digging in the pots to see if there are roots!


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Baz

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Might be too much light, I would back it way back. I use less than 40 watts over mine and the height depends. My buddy uses 1 20w flouro tube. Right now I am using 2 14w daylight spectrum cfl's and it is 1 foot above the babies, and sometimes add a 23w in place of 1 14w, or just move near the veg box to get them used to stronger light.

My only attempt at rooting in soil was with my seedling mix which has no nutes...

A seedling heat mat or an old water bed heater helps keep medium warm. The seedling mats are too hot so I elevate the tray above the mat with some shims of wood. They make a thermostat or you could put on a timer also.

Most use a humidity dome, and if I cut all at once I use for the first 2-4 days. Lately I have had cuttings at different stages of rooting and have not used the dome with no real difference. They probably stand taller with the dome and extra humidity.

Since yours are approaching a week old I think they will be fine! But again may take another week or even two to root. Another reason I like the rockwool, as I would be digging in the pots to see if there are roots!


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Ok thanks again Hayduke, my hood holds 6 x 18 watt bulbs i might raise it a bit, and the room is always warm, as there are two heater pipes running arround the room, they really piss me off to be honest as the heating comes on 3 times a day, so my plants get fried 3 times daily! gonna have to find somewhere else to use my cfl rig soon as i got no real control of the heat in this room, thanks alot for the help i'll just sit it out and see how these go
 

Baz

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Omg im a complete idiot, i had these sat about, what i got from my dads shed when i first started growing but never used em, i closed the little shutter holes, that right? the fan is there just blowing the hot air from under the hood away, does this look ok bud?
 

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Hayduke

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Perfect! open the vent holes at least halfway. Mist the inside of the dome a couple of times a day if you can, this should help them stand up as they pull in moisture from their stomata (pores in leaves). I sometimes breath in some co2 inside the dome, might help some. Also a little water in the bottom of the tray to evaporate may help moderate the temp increase of the heat pipes. depending on how hot they get, you may consider covering them with the same foam insulation they sell to insulate water pipes from freezing.

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