Stompermoments
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Also not sure if everyone saw.... 
Hazeman Seeds
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Lance Bouma
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Yeah i noticed from hazeman's available seed list that he had f2's from reeferman stock and tuna x tuna from black tuna stock. I figured f2s were probably my best bet, but at the same time isn't f2's where you have the most variation in phenotypes, just seems to me like hunting through a single pack of f2's my chances of finding what i'm looking for are slim. I might be wrong on this though. I read through a whole thread on tuna/black tuna on icmag yesterday and it would seem they are from different origins but there is so little info that in the end i am down to just try my luck on either
F3s of black tuna sounds like it might be semi stable so i think i'll try that route at first
Stompermoments
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I always thought f2 would
I think you're on to something, although from my research I think you have them switched. The "Tuna Kush" is the Hindu leaner and "Black Tuna" is herijuana x lambsbread.
Stompermoments
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Here's something I found on f1 vs f2. I've always thought f2 was the first step towards stabilizing traits, with f3 and f4 further stabilizing traits.
Bodyne
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Me too, it’s how they explained it in the ol days lol. Now when I see the opposite stated, I just laugh and notice the new bro science trends.lol the vigor was always the knock on f2s, not variation. But somebody will argue with ya I’m sure
Lance Bouma
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You might notice i followed that with " i might be wrong ", as my knowledge with filial generations is limited or rather inexistant, which is why i am asking these questions
colocowboy
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F2 tends to unlock the genetic potential of the parental input, usually the phenos are all over the place. Selecting an inbred pair in the F2 that will bring out the original parent traits is often quite difficult because of this variation. I highly recommend “Marijuana Botany: An Advanced Study: The Propagation and Breeding of Distinctive Cannabis” by Robert Clark as a starting point for breeding.
Bodyne
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Didn’t Mendel say it was bout 1 in 4 to get the recessive or variated traits in F2s? 3 of 4 be like f1s? But if the equation was assuming landrace instead of poly hybrids, even that percent would be all over the place for sure. Lol I’m no breeder or botanist tho, given history, I’m prolly wrong lol
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colocowboy
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That’s about right and like you said that’s sort of presuming limited gene pool in the parent stock. Basically that also presumably identifying a particular trait to find in the open pool. There used to be some great write ups by Vic High back in the day, mostly on overgrow but I couldn’t really find them, might be lost.
Modern Selections
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A true F1 cross will roughly give you 30% like Mom, 30% like Dad, 30% hybrid of the two. Also a few oddballs mixed in.
The F2 will give you the variation you need to select parents to begin stabilizing traits.
The Black Tuna is a very intriguing strain. I must order it next time.
The C99 plants are very dank, healthy, and beginning to flower well. I will post pics once some spears develop.
Here is HAZEMAN'S:
GrapeStomer x Headband
Strawberry Cough
Cherry Pie
Strawberry Diesel
LA Pure Kush
The F2 will give you the variation you need to select parents to begin stabilizing traits.
The Black Tuna is a very intriguing strain. I must order it next time.
The C99 plants are very dank, healthy, and beginning to flower well. I will post pics once some spears develop.
Here is HAZEMAN'S:
GrapeStomer x Headband
Strawberry Cough
Cherry Pie
Strawberry Diesel
LA Pure Kush
Modern Selections
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Grape Stomper x Headband day 34
madininagyal
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How is the smell??
Modern Selections
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Grape funk is the best description at this point.
Modern Selections
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Strawberry cough...
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Hows it smelling??
1Ruby
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Screw the smell! Let us know how the buzz is? Why do people ask this on every post?? I've had strains that Smelled {Knock Your Socks Off Awesome} And {the buzz completely Lacked} and it Totally SUCKED. I've had strains that completely lacked in the smell dept, But would totally Blow anyone Away!! When smoked or Vaped. Lets git some smoke reports up on here!!
MannyPacs
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Because it's strawberry cough man. If it doesn't smell/taste like strawberry the buzz doesn't much matter unfortunately
Modern Selections
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Agreed! It HAS to smell like strawberry man....
and it does. The strawberry smell started around week 4. It smells of strawberry and a funk that is super hard to describe. Kind of haze and almost rotten fruit with a sweetness to it. I know that doesn't help but it is hard to describe. When she is done I will have better details.
Hazeman Cherry Pie....
and it does. The strawberry smell started around week 4. It smells of strawberry and a funk that is super hard to describe. Kind of haze and almost rotten fruit with a sweetness to it. I know that doesn't help but it is hard to describe. When she is done I will have better details.
Hazeman Cherry Pie....