Health Canada reports "concerning increase in homegrown cannabis"

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OGEvilgenius said:
ACMPR will be shut down in the not that distant future. They will say LPs have made it affordable because prices have dropped. Make no mistake. And no the courts probably won't side with us.
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So 5 grams a day at $5 a gram. $150 a month. I am guessing you have not left the work early because of your illness and live off a fixed income.
 
OGEvilgenius

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So 5 grams a day at $5 a gram. $150 a month. I am guessing you have not left the work early because of your illness and live off a fixed income.
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It doesn't matter what I think. If you think anyone in government gives a shit about you or your problems think again. It will be challenged. I have seen the stories talking about it's abuse pop up now the last few months. It's clearly on the agenda. And I have seen 100 dollar LP ounces. That's no different than black market prices. And frankly a lot of people can't grow decent weed at a low cost either especially indoors in Canada. The old arguments are no longer very strong. So you will see it change. I don't like it. But it isn't in my hands.
 
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OGEvilgenius said:
It doesn't matter what I think. If you think anyone in government gives a shit about you or your problems think again. It will be challenged. I have seen the stories talking about it's abuse pop up now the last few months. It's clearly on the agenda. And I have seen 100 dollar LP ounces. That's no different than black market prices. And frankly a lot of people can't grow decent weed at a low cost either especially indoors in Canada. The old arguments are no longer very strong. So you will see it change. I don't like it. But it isn't in my hands.
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I'll keep doing what I'm doing regardless and so will many others. Who cares what the gov says or does. The other thing is that in most provinces you're allowed to grow four plants indoors or out so for all anyone who doesn't have a warrant is concerned, you smell weed? It's my four plants f*** off ...right?
 
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2klude

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redi jedi said:
High power consumption and an obvious 12 on, 12 off cycle is not illegal. They need a warrant to view your bills, its confidential, even in Quebec.
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I'm speaking from experience... RCMP in BC do not need a warrant to obtain your hydro records. Without a warrant, BChydro will happily hand over your records.

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If the cops obtained a suspected growers power bill illegally, they cant use that evidence against you in court. Im sure the cops have bribed or coerced info from utility workers before but they then need legal evidence to kick down your door. They can search your garbage without a warrant once its on the curb
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Like I said, from experience, during the discovery process of a friends case, RCMP do not need a warrant to obtain your hydro records. In fact, it's one of the last pieces of the pie they will use against you. They have a witness, a snitch, surveillance etc. something that links you to a large grow before they go and look at your hydro records. There is so many reasons people use a lot of power in a residential setting. No judge is going to provide a search warrant solely based on excessive electricity use.

westcoast420 said:
The limit for any size acmpr licence is 150 gram on your person, but who actually pays attention to that number i say very small amount of people. Carry as much as you like just do it discreetly.
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That's correct, 150 grams for any ACMPR. The Cannabis act says "The lesser of 150 grams or a 30-day supply of dried cannabis" which I think might confuse some people. Smallest license is 5g x 30days = 150g. The act should just say 150g, the 30-day supply BS is just redundant and may confuse people into thinking their 50g a day license means they can carry 1500g with them lol. What most don't know is you can also add the 30g of recreational to this, so anyone with a ACMPR license can carry 180g of dried flower.

OGEvilgenius said:
ACMPR will be shut down in the not that distant future. They will say LPs have made it affordable because prices have dropped. Make no mistake. And no the courts probably won't side with us.
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OGEvilgenius said:
It doesn't matter what I think. If you think anyone in government gives a shit about you or your problems think again. It will be challenged. I have seen the stories talking about it's abuse pop up now the last few months. It's clearly on the agenda. And I have seen 100 dollar LP ounces. That's no different than black market prices. And frankly a lot of people can't grow decent weed at a low cost either especially indoors in Canada. The old arguments are no longer very strong. So you will see it change. I don't like it. But it isn't in my hands.
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Whatever BS changes they make to the ACMPR this Oct will also be challenged. The ACMPR(now Cannabis Act) is a response to the Allard v. Canada Supreme Court of Canada case, which in February 2016 ruled that medical marijuana patients have a constitutional right to grow their own cannabis and are no longer required to purchase it from licensed producers. There will always be a medical program and home grows in Canada.

$100 ounce from LP is really bunk weed I bet considering most are selling for double that. Black market ounce for $100 will be fire if you know where to get it... market is flooded and good quality AAA is selling for $850-1000 a pack anything more has to be something really really special or singles. You do realize experience growers can grow an ounce of fire for less than 20 bucks... why would I go pay 5 times that to buy bunk weed, that's probably on a liquidation sale due to low quality from an LP.
 
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redi jedi

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2klude said:
I'm speaking from experience... RCMP in BC do not need a warrant to obtain your hydro records. Without a warrant, BChydro will happily hand over your records.


Like I said, from experience, during the discovery process of a friends case, RCMP do not need a warrant to obtain your hydro records. In fact, it's one of the last pieces of the pie they will use against you. They have a witness, a snitch, surveillance etc. something that links you to a large grow before they go and look at your hydro records. There is so many reasons people use a lot of power in a residential setting. No judge is going to provide a search warrant solely based on excessive electricity use.
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Sorry man, you are mistaken. Bills are confidential through out the entire country. BC is no different. The utility in BC was handing the info out at request of LEO, but it was doing so illegally. This was several years ago...before 2015.
 
2klude

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redi jedi said:
Sorry man, you are mistaken. Bills are confidential through out the entire country. BC is no different. The utility in BC was handing the info out at request of LEO, but it was doing so illegally. This was several years ago...before 2015.
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I don't know if laws have change since... this all happen same year, 2015.
 
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By Shariq Khan
(Reuters) - Canada's health regulator will launch a public consultation program on Monday in its draft guidance for individuals growing medical cannabis at home, hoping to clamp down on people selling weed on the black market.
In the draft document sent to some industry figures and seen by Reuters ahead of publication, Health Canada highlights recent police raids and arrests at production sites where people were using licenses to "cover and support large-scale illegal production and sale".
The move also comes as Health Canada tries to set right a relatively unstable official market, where illegal sales are one factor undermining the business plans of the dozens of producers and distributors set up over the past five years.


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"Abuse of the medical purposes framework undermines the integrity of the system that many patients and health care practitioners rely on to access cannabis to address their medical needs," Health Canada said in the document.
The draft guidance for the first time sets out factors that the regulator may consider in refusing or revoking a registration for "personal production". Factors include authorization of unjustified amounts and "criminal activity and/or diversion of cannabis".
Health Canada could not be immediately reached for comment.
Canada in 2018 was the first major country to legalize cannabis but its programs have since run into a myriad of troubles.
Households spent more than C$3.1 billion buying non-medical pot from illicit channels last year versus C$2.9 billion of legal purchases, according to Statistics Canada data.
Graphic: Black markets plague Canadian cannabis - https://graphics.reuters.com/CANADA-CANNABIS/nmovazxjmpa/chart.png
In January, Ontario Provincial Police seized over 180,000 cannabis plants and numerous vehicles and firearms by raiding illegal cultivation facilities, many of which exploit Health Canada's personal medical weed cultivation licenses.
Under the rules, people using cannabis for medical purposes must get a daily amount authorized by medical care practitioners - doctors, nurses and social workers - to either be bought from official retailers or grown personally.
Health Canada said in December it was seeing a surge in the amount of pot personal cultivators were being authorized to grow.
Personal cultivators are allowed to grow as much as 36 grams per day on average, compared with just 2 grams authorized for daily purchase from retailers.
Graphic: Canada's personal production authorizations surge - https://tmsnrt.rs/3brBOTm
Health Canada will invite "interested stakeholders" to comment in the public consultation, expected to run for 60 days through May 7, with the aim of improving the programs' operation and judging what factors it should consider when assessing risks to public health, the guidance said.
After the end of the two-month period, the regulator plans to finalize the guidance and make it public.
(Reporting by Shariq Khan in Bengaluru; Editing Bernard Orr and Saumyadeb Chakrabarty)


Came across this article this morning.
 
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