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dmn0712

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And just to illustrate the results I am talking about...

Here is my first tent...

Gypsy's 600 watt Home Made Grow Tent

36"x20"x54" with an aircooled 600 watt HPS and no heat issues...

do you not suck the fresh air from outside the building having it blow through the cool tubes and then blown back outside the building thats how i have mine. i also have a carbon filter connected to a fan blowing that outside my building and another fan sucking fresh air into the bottom of my grow cabinet from outside the building. is that correct?
 

mannurse801

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It is correct, but for the filter to work, you need a negative pressure... ie more air going out that in. If not, you can have a positive pressure, in essence, forcing air out.... Odor will leak like crazy, and air is not being replaced fast enough...
 

weedaweedaweed

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So you have a cooltube with 2x 600watt HPS lights with an outdoor intake and exhaust, and another intake and exhaust as well, and your temps are still over 100???? how hot is it outdoors? that makes no sense, you should be nice and cool
 

mannurse801

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His fans are equal CFM, however, he has a carbon filter on his outgoing fan... so, he is puching in more than he is taking out... The heat will buildup unless he can start to take out air faster than he is putting it it...
 

GypsyBush

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do you not suck the fresh air from outside the building having it blow through the cool tubes and then blown back outside the building thats how i have mine.
Right... the air that cools the lights does not EVER mix with the growspace air...

what CFM fan do you have blowing across the lights?

are both lights in 1 cooltube?

how much ducting do you have from start to finish? (total ducting lenghth for the lights only)

what is the temperature of the air you are using to cool the lights?

what is the temperature of the air at the opposite end? (light exhaust)

i also have a carbon filter connected to a fan blowing that outside my building and another fan sucking fresh air into the bottom of my grow cabinet from outside the building. is that correct?
That is correct.. but as Man notes below, you must have more air exiting your space than coming in...

you need to MAKE SURE no air can exit other than through the filter...

any leaks must be in the form of fresh air going into the tent..

It is correct, but for the filter to work, you need a negative pressure... ie more air going out that in. If not, you can have a positive pressure, in essence, forcing air out.... Odor will leak like crazy, and air is not being replaced fast enough...
Like he said... if the intake NEEDS to be active, it should be 3/4 cfm rating of the exhaust, and you can use fan speed controllers for this as well...

what cfm is are your fans? intake/exhaust

So you have a cooltube with 2x 600watt HPS lights with an outdoor intake and exhaust, and another intake and exhaust as well, and your temps are still over 100???? how hot is it outdoors? that makes no sense, you should be nice and cool
I agree, there is something that has not come to light yet...

I am guessing it has to be due to low cfm fans... but I have to see his numbers...
 

GypsyBush

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His fans are equal CFM, however, he has a carbon filter on his outgoing fan... so, he is puching in more than he is taking out... The heat will buildup unless he can start to take out air faster than he is putting it it...
Very good point... + rep...:clap:
 

dmn0712

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His fans are equal CFM, however, he has a carbon filter on his outgoing fan... so, he is puching in more than he is taking out... The heat will buildup unless he can start to take out air faster than he is putting it it...
as soon as i get to the grow shop tomorrow and get a dimmer switch i will let you know how i get on. can i buy one anywhere because the grow shop is about 40 miles away?
 

mannurse801

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May or may not be on the fan... Should be able to be answered by the store you got it from.... You have 90 Cubic Feet in your room, I would personally use a 200+ CFM fan for a room like that with a passive intake.

See if it is on the fan or not...
 

dmn0712

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May or may not be on the fan... Should be able to be answered by the store you got it from.... You have 90 Cubic Feet in your room, I would personally use a 200+ CFM fan for a room like that with a passive intake.

See if it is on the fan or not...
all i know is that the fans are 125mm and its says UV230 and F(hz):50 ...dont know if that means anythink to you?
 

GypsyBush

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I would not use a light dimmer on a fan....

Make sure you are using a fan speed controller...

I am a dumbass, but I do not make shit up...

There is a very good reason not to use a light dimmer on a fan, but I did retain that piece of info...

ask an electrician...

As for your fans...

What kind of fans are they?

Centrifugal, in-duct fan, computer fan...?

200 CFM would be minimum in my opinion, and that would be true CFM, taking into consideration the filter, ducting and any turns...

My choice would be a 6" 440 CFM centrifugal with a 14 lb activated charcoal filter...

Something along these lines...

GrowBright 6" Inline Fan & Charcoal Filter Combo




DMN is this what your fan looks like?
 

mannurse801

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With a fan like tha CFM should not be a concern, it is more likeley the flow of air that is a problem.. You more than likely have a positive pressure effecting the temps in that room... The dimmer should be fine, and yeah, make sure it is a fan speed controller...
 

GypsyBush

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125mm is about 4"...

that could be the fan he has...

My 4" is 170 cfm... with a filter, that totally translates into not enough...

Add positive pressure and you have a heat trap...

Mannurse hit it in the head.... :clap:
 

GypsyBush

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With a fan like tha CFM should not be a concern, it is more likeley the flow of air that is a problem.. You more than likely have a positive pressure effecting the temps in that room... The dimmer should be fine, and yeah, make sure it is a fan speed controller...
Here is my fan.... I don't think it would be enough...




Now...

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]extractor fan: 2 x systemair RVK 125A1 - 225M3 per hour

225M3 per hour = 7,945.8 cubic feet per hour .. which = 132.43 cubic feet per minute .. or 132 CFM...

but it has 2 fans that size...

DMN are they both exhaust and you added a third fan for intake or is it just one fan for exhaust?
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