helicopter!

zoneman

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just put 20 germs out in cups on my private 90 acres. Does it matter that it is private property? (I only go out there once a week for my girls)

and when do the copters actually start searching?...I would think that they would start closer to harvest but who knows...
 

Skunk Baxter

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They're not looking now, because they know everyone's plants are only 6 inches tall. They'd be lucky to spot 'em if they were standing on top of them, let alone from a helicopter. It costs a lot of money to keep choppers in the air; they're not going to waste that coin now. But they'll be flying dawn to dusk by late July, early August.

And when they do, they fly anywhere they want. When I lived in Hawaii, they'd fly right down and spray plants that were growing right in people's backyards, even while the people were outside in the yards, then keep flying down the street looking for more. Private property don't mean jack.
 

jacksonman1993

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yah it matters watch out for copters today i seen 1 flying around the forest and i live in canada and the plants dont start coming out till may so idk....
 

Skunk Baxter

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Not every helicopter is looking for marijuana. People do other things with helicopters, too. There's no way in hell any helicopter is going to spot marijuana plants in the wild that are less than a foot tall. It's just not possible. The only danger they present this time of year is that they may spot you planting or preparing your grow, or some patches of freshly disturbed dirt in a prime growing area, and if they're really out there looking for anything at all that's got to be what it is. They know damned well they've got zero chance of spotting actual plants this time of year. Just be on the alert; if you hear that "Apocalypse Now" whup-whup-whup coming, just make like a hiker or whatever.
 

panhead

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And when they do, they fly anywhere they want. When I lived in Hawaii, they'd fly right down and spray plants that were growing right in people's backyards, even while the people were outside in the yards, then keep flying down the street looking for more. Private property don't mean jack.
NO FUKIN WAY :o

Man that would suck serious ass,just sitting there minding your own business then along comes a helo & pisses on yer plants.
 

Skunk Baxter

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NO FUKIN WAY :o

Man that would suck serious ass,just sitting there minding your own business then along comes a helo & pisses on yer plants.
Yeah, people used to get pretty seriously cheesed about it, too. It wasn't just the people who lived on the properties that were getting sprayed; the neighbors were getting it, too. I remember stories about women sunbathing in their yard and the wind would blow a cloud of that herbicide mist all over 'em from next door; they'd just hit the fucking roof over it. Most of the people who live in Hawaii (well, at least most of the people I talked to) weren't all that crazy about the marijuana eradication programs anyway, because of the damage it did to the local economy. When weed was semi-legal, there was a lot of money flowing in the economy, but when the feds started cracking down on cultivation, a lot of businesses took big hits and a lot of entry-level jobs were lost. Which was all bad enough, but spraying innocent people with herbicide was just adding insult to injury.

On the good side, though, it was a plus for the people who were actually growing in their yards, if you think about it. If you're growing 3 or 4 plants, you're a lot better off having them just spray 'em from the air and keep flying than having them radio down to a squad car and have them come and seize the plants, and probably arrest you as long as they're there. Hawaiian cops generally don't give a rat's ass about locals smoking or growing dope anyway; half of them smoke themselves, and all of them have a brother or a sister or a cousin or whatever who grows a few in their backyard. I could tell you stories about how wide open things were back before Reagan started the anti-drug campaign, with cops tipping people off before they'd sweep an area. You could tell which areas were getting raided on any given day by which direction the pickup trucks were speeding down the highway away from with a half-dozen 12-foot marijuana plants in the back. Drug enforcement was pretty much a joke if you were a local, because everybody knew somebody who knew somebody on the department, and people there really stick together. That's the way it is on the Big Island, anyway, where I lived.

But anyway, the way the local culture is, cops figure if they've got to enforce the law and keep the federal money coming in, that's fine, but they'd rather not fuck around busting anyone for growing just a few plants. Better to just spray the plants so they can say they did their jobs, and leave the brother who was growing them alone. It's a bitch for the poor bastards who happen to be downwind, but for the grower, it beats the hell out of getting arrested.
 

Picasso345

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Yep, just look at Pahoa.

because of the damage it did to the local economy. When weed was semi-legal, there was a lot of money flowing in the economy, but when the feds started cracking down on cultivation, a lot of businesses took big hits and a lot of entry-level jobs were lost.
 

Skunk Baxter

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Yep, just look at Pahoa.
Pahoa? I loved Pahoa. They still find a way to grow some of the best damned dope on the island there, choppers or no choppers. I just lived a few miles from there, over by Keaau... ah, shit, I'm probably not spelling that right. But if you know Puna, you know what town I mean.

But yeah, Pahoa's a universe of its own. I loved that little Mexican restaurant. Can't remember the name of it, but it was on the north or northwest side of the street right on the main drag. Rundown little place, looked like a cantina out of some 50s movie, bare wood floors and everything. I've been thinking about it a lot lately, and getting homesick as hell. :cry:
 

Picasso345

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Pahoa? I loved Pahoa. They still find a way to grow some of the best damned dope on the island there, choppers or no choppers. I just lived a few miles from there, over by Keaau... ah, shit, I'm probably not spelling that right. But if you know Puna, you know what town I mean.

But yeah, Pahoa's a universe of its own. I loved that little Mexican restaurant. Can't remember the name of it, but it was on the north or northwest side of the street right on the main drag. Rundown little place, looked like a cantina out of some 50s movie, bare wood floors and everything. I've been thinking about it a lot lately, and getting homesick as hell. :cry:
You're spelling Keaau right. I miss Ken’s House of Pancakes in town, lol. Pahoa is certainly one of a kind. :mrgreen:
 

Stormfront

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helicopters suck, out here they use the damn IR cams to see the heat sigs on the woods and along riverbanks, im trying to figure out what can hide marijuana or disguise the heat sig, they never arrest anyone over the big grows, but i have heard of people having stateys showing up on their lawn getting arrested after a flyby....it really suck, i hope i can figure something out, cuz my city has really started to crackdown.
 

zoneman

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yeah but 20 plants!....it's so few..... in 90 acres, I would guess that they are not allowed to search one's private prop without a search warrant??

i guess I'll just wear a mask...what with going to school and actually giving a rat's ass about my future job and family, I would hate to get a felony for some personal smoke
arrr feds
 

zoneman

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and the area that I have is out in the boonies in the southeast. Not too much fed money comes around here for pot copters
 

Puff

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Im no lawyer, but as far as I know they cant prosecute over stumbling onto your pot plants. That would be inadmissable as far as evidence. They might scare the hell out of you and confiscate the crop, but I doubt charges would follow. If they were there because of a confidential informant then I think thats a different story.
 

pasadenabri

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Im no lawyer, but as far as I know they cant prosecute over stumbling onto your pot plants. That would be inadmissable as far as evidence. They might scare the hell out of you and confiscate the crop, but I doubt charges would follow. If they were there because of a confidential informant then I think thats a different story.
If they find your plants while they are searching your property for something else that is described in a search warrant, they can either confiscate or pretend they don't care and come right back... If they just happen to stumble onto your plants your fucked. It's called "in plain view", if they stumble into your plants they will just say they were checking on something else, and because your plants are in plain view they can do whatever the fuck they want...
 

pasadenabri

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helicopters suck, out here they use the damn IR cams to see the heat sigs on the woods and along riverbanks, im trying to figure out what can hide marijuana or disguise the heat sig,
You can disguise the plant from a heat sig by planting it upside down, then the roots grow up and the buds grow into the ground... lol It sounds like you are saying they use heat sig outdoors.... Do you think the pot plant is a different temperature than its surroundings? It would have to be in order for a heat sig to work outdoors. Heat sig is used to bust indoor growers.
 

tacticalcustoms

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^^ seriously I was thinking that. i'm like wtf how can a IR cam detect bud outside. its used to trace heat sigs of houses. or am I looking at this wrong?
 

gangjababy

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I've wondered about this before too. It was explained to me like this: during flowering when the weather cools off and the buds get big the buds hold heat longer than the surrounding vegitation. Chopper can pick up on IR the heat signatures of the nugs, after the sun goes down. I don't know how much truth there is to this but it seems to make sense.
 
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