Help Appreciated - First Grow Tent

Nik420

New Member
Hi Guys, am new to the community and glad to be here.

What my goal is with this thread is to get good advice from experienced growers in order to have a successful first grow. I wont start my grow for at least two weeks until I get all the proper info. Any tips or help will be greatly appreciated.

I plan to get more or less 6oz out of this setup from what I've read in other threads. This should last me a whole year, its for medical purposes. So am only planning to do one grow a year if this is successful.

I haven't been active growing since my first grow on a Stealth PC over a year ago. I was growing two autos and it was a half successful grow, had to chop em early because I was leaving out of town for work for at least 3 weeks.

Anyways... Please if you can... have a little patience, its not that long of a read. Thanks in advance.



A year later.... I bought myself a good setup from what I've researched this past two weeks

Setup>

- Gorilla Grow Tent 2 x 2.5 feet
- P300 Platinum LED
- Hurricane 171 CFM - 4 inch
- Phresh Lo-Carbon Air Filter 4" x 20"
- Four or Five Gallon Smart Pots
- Couple of Small Oscillating Fans for inside tent
- Fox Farms Ocean Forest + 25% Perlite


Strains>


In this 2 x 2.5 grow tent I was planning to grow two or three plants due to the size. This are FEM not Autos.

- Fem Sour Diesel
- Fem Girl Scout Cookies
- Fem Super Silver Haze

I will probably LST to keep em the right height and wait for different strain to catch up. Should I do topping or defoliation? I plan to Veg for 5 weeks and Flower for 8-9 weeks.

Ambient>

I have established my tent in a bathroom inside a room. The bathroom has a small window that goes to the outside of the building. The room itself has another window which am using as an intake for clean fresh air. Now... I will be growing summer time where I live. Average temps climb to 34C(93F) during day and at night they drop to 24-26C(77F). In the bathroom should be around 29-30C during the day but the Room has 12000BTU split inverter AC.

So I guess I'll have to turn the AC every two hours or so to keep temps down while having the window in the room a bit open for intake (maybe with a small window fan would work as well?). Window in the bathroom will be the outtake.

Please any advice on this setup would be awesome. I also want to make sure that carbon filter works well as I live in a building and about two floors up from Social Area, and don't want to provoke any nosers knocking on my door, if you know what i mean ;)


Nutrients>

This is where am getting a lot of confusion. I've read many threads with many mix feelings about what to use and not to use. This is my list of nutrients I haven't used since last grow, many I never used. Using Fox Farms Ocean Forest I've read that you don't need to feed anything for at least 30 days for maybe except root growth like Voodoo Juice. I will put them on soil after they sprout and then all the way until harvest, no transplant (am afraid lol)

- AN Voodoo Juice
- AN Big Bud
- AN Overdrive
- AN B52
- AN Bud Candy
- AN Bud Igniter
- Calmag
- Humboldt grow 2-1-6
- Humboldt bloom 0-6-5
- Foxfarms grow big 6-4-4

The PC Stealth grow I did with Autos a year ago doesn't really count since now its a year later and with FEM instead of autos. So any advice from growers who have used this products before and have a proper schedule or any other tip based on my setup will be greeted with great appreciation.

Thanks for reading!

-Nik
 
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Tupapa

Well-Known Member
Sounds like a plan., Couple of things i will add like a a ph and ppm meter., Or add some dolomite lime to your soil mix to buffer ph and keep it stable., Wrong ph levels and bad runoff ppms CAN TURN YOUR GROW INTO SHIT!! GL
 

Nik420

New Member
Sounds like a plan., Couple of things i will add like a a ph and ppm meter., Or add some dolomite lime to your soil mix to buffer ph and keep it stable., Wrong ph levels and bad runoff ppms CAN TURN YOUR GROW INTO SHIT!! GL
Thanks! I did forget to mention I have a Dr. Meter and PH Up Down kit.
 

Nik420

New Member
Sounds like a plan., Couple of things i will add like a a ph and ppm meter., Or add some dolomite lime to your soil mix to buffer ph and keep it stable., Wrong ph levels and bad runoff ppms CAN TURN YOUR GROW INTO SHIT!! GL
You think 5 pounds of Powdered Dolomite Lime is enough for three 5 gallons Smart pots? Am not sure on how much to add to the Ocean Forest...
 

Nik420

New Member
Any advice on the nutrients?

Some people say Ocean Forest is to hot for seedlings. Should I mix Happy Frog and Ocean Forest with +25% perlite and Dolomite Lime>? will this do the job for the first 4 weeks without burning them? Should I use voodoo juice from week 2 of veg as well>?

Thanks for any tips...
 

ILM

Well-Known Member
You wont need any nutes for the first month or so as there are nutes in the ff soil .afterthat your plant will let u know what it needs.o and id get myself a easy 2 part mix something simple.i personally would leave the over hyped and over priced AN nutes alone .id try to keep it real light and simple on your first run.just try to get thru thecentire process start to finish and read trad and then read more all of your questions have been answered. Hundreds of times...the search feture on here is priceless just gotta learn to cut through the b.s. and id really go lite on the nutes you can always add more but once thete burnt up its hard to bounce back.hope that helped itscmy .02 cents take it or leave it good luck either way
 

Snaddehat

Well-Known Member
I really wish you had posted here before you bought everything...
Nevertheless, your setup looks pretty decent apart from your light. That p300 outputs less than 200W with terrible efficiency, and it will most certainly struggle to flower 3 plants with 5 weeks veg. It's just insufficient lighting imo. Have a look at COB led lights. DIY kits and prefab fixtures are available at reasonable prices by now. Timber, Northern grow lights, Cob Kits, Tasty led, just to name a few, are all worth looking into for top quality led lighting.
Good luck with your growing :bigjoint:
 

Nik420

New Member
You wont need any nutes for the first month or so as there are nutes in the ff soil .afterthat your plant will let u know what it needs.o and id get myself a easy 2 part mix something simple.i personally would leave the over hyped and over priced AN nutes alone .id try to keep it real light and simple on your first run.just try to get thru thecentire process start to finish and read trad and then read more all of your questions have been answered. Hundreds of times...the search feture on here is priceless just gotta learn to cut through the b.s. and id really go lite on the nutes you can always add more but once thete burnt up its hard to bounce back.hope that helped itscmy .02 cents take it or leave it good luck either way
Thanks, I'll keep that in mind. Since you mentioned it, i've been using the search in the forums more and its great! found more info i needed ;)
 

Nik420

New Member
I really wish you had posted here before you bought everything...
Nevertheless, your setup looks pretty decent apart from your light. That p300 outputs less than 200W with terrible efficiency, and it will most certainly struggle to flower 3 plants with 5 weeks veg. It's just insufficient lighting imo. Have a look at COB led lights. DIY kits and prefab fixtures are available at reasonable prices by now. Timber, Northern grow lights, Cob Kits, Tasty led, just to name a few, are all worth looking into for top quality led lighting.
Good luck with your growing :bigjoint:
Well I bought the P300 a year ago for another Stealth PC project that never took off. So now that I bought the tent thought it would be convenient just to use the one I had.

Now on another note, ive seen people in rollitup with journals as well as other websites that mention great success with Plantinum LED. A guy for ex> did a test. On a 2 x 4 tent he split it and made it 2x2. In one side he put P300 in the other A 300W MarsHydro and same strains. P300 yielded in that little space about 6.2oz Mars did about 5.5oz I think. I might get another 150W LED before hitting Flowering, I'll take a good look at the ones you mentioned! Thanks for the info!
 

ILM

Well-Known Member
Thanks, I'll keep that in mind. Since you mentioned it, i've been using the search in the forums more and its great! found more info i needed ;)
Ya when i started growing this place was invaluable. There is a shit ton of great info on here you just have to learn to watch out for false info to.youll start to see the guys who know what there talking about
 
Ok so I just got a huge lesson in soils and fox farm happy frog and ocean forest. I used frog then forest and used the nute schedule from fox farm (ff) After 2 runs with this schedule I got the same result twice. Both times I Nuked the hell out of my plants with waaaaay to much nutes. I am a novice but live in Mich and have lots of access to good growers. My Yoda asked me "did your plants start amazing then burn up , get tip burns, start to herm , smells like hay, and no real crystals ? " I'm like dude that's my 2 runs to a tee!!!!! and I run 2 p900 platinum leds in a 10x10 gorilla tent in a super clean I mean clean space. Ruining my fans my fresh filtered air coming into the tent and venting out to the outside thru my charcoal filters. I did everything right besides talking to experienced growers. Yoda told me " the ocean forest has so many built in nutes that I can go 4 to 6 weeks in veg with just water ! I'm like what,!????? No veg nutes ?? He's like fuck no kid, when ya flip the lights to 12/12 then use " heavy 16"once a week in flower w some molasses and just test the runoff. ". I knew i was doing something wrong but what ff won't tell ya is that ya don't need nutes w that soil. Yoda said in the flower the plants will then tell me what they need. ( cal meg , fire , prime, or flush finish). So all in all DONT NUTE WHENUSING OCEAN in veg. Then add nutes in flower. And don't use ff nutes. Go get heavy 16 bud A and B. Hope this helped. Wish I would have googled ocean farm and over nuting along time ago !! Happy growing.
 

Nik420

New Member
Ok so I just got a huge lesson in soils and fox farm happy frog and ocean forest. I used frog then forest and used the nute schedule from fox farm (ff) After 2 runs with this schedule I got the same result twice. Both times I Nuked the hell out of my plants with waaaaay to much nutes. I am a novice but live in Mich and have lots of access to good growers. My Yoda asked me "did your plants start amazing then burn up , get tip burns, start to herm , smells like hay, and no real crystals ? " I'm like dude that's my 2 runs to a tee!!!!! and I run 2 p900 platinum leds in a 10x10 gorilla tent in a super clean I mean clean space. Ruining my fans my fresh filtered air coming into the tent and venting out to the outside thru my charcoal filters. I did everything right besides talking to experienced growers. Yoda told me " the ocean forest has so many built in nutes that I can go 4 to 6 weeks in veg with just water ! I'm like what,!????? No veg nutes ?? He's like fuck no kid, when ya flip the lights to 12/12 then use " heavy 16"once a week in flower w some molasses and just test the runoff. ". I knew i was doing something wrong but what ff won't tell ya is that ya don't need nutes w that soil. Yoda said in the flower the plants will then tell me what they need. ( cal meg , fire , prime, or flush finish). So all in all DONT NUTE WHENUSING OCEAN in veg. Then add nutes in flower. And don't use ff nutes. Go get heavy 16 bud A and B. Hope this helped. Wish I would have googled ocean farm and over nuting along time ago !! Happy growing.
LOL!!! I loved the Yoda story, seems he knows his $hit!

Yeah, i've been doing more digging and I don't think I'll be adding any nutes until 1st month of veg, prob till week 5 which I most like be turning to 12/12 by then.

Thanks for the advice mate!

-Nik
 
And QUOTE="Nik420, post: 13243831, member: 956639"]LOL!!! I loved the Yoda story, seems he knows his $hit!

Yeah, i've been doing more digging and I don't think I'll be adding any nutes until 1st month of veg, prob till week 5 which I most like be turning to 12/12 by then.

Thanks for the advice mate!

-Nik[/QUOTE]

Hey Nik
No prob bro. It's just nice to help in anyway I can. And i and in week 2 of veg after my clones took. And just water and nothing else and my cookies are starting to boom! I finally can see the reward of some tough learning lessons from my first grows. Love these p900s too ! Good luck my friend !!
 

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