Okay, So its day 31 of white widow, indoor grow,,, i actually expected to see pistils today.. but instead when I went in the room today, the plants new growth of nodes leaves are completely curled up.. The older leaves havent curled yet, but some of the leaves coming off the side nodes are curled ridicously... there is several nercosis spots on a few leaves, but I originally thought that that was just burns from too close of UV rays... however, now I Begin to think it may be a nutrient defiency... also... there is a possibility that their is overwatering... howeever; I've watered a quart in a half in 3 days, with a temp around 80 degrees F. btw i started the flowering cycle on day 16. ALSO I TESTED THE TOP 3 NUTES... WITH CHEAP 6 DOLLAR TEST THAT YOU GET AT A GARDEN STORE... ORIGINALLY, THE NITROGEN, AND POTASH, WERE PLENTIFUL EFFICEIENT, BUT THE PHOSPURUS, WAS SERIOUSLY LACKING, WELL I ADDED BURNT ASH TO HELP WITH THE PHOSPHURUS... BUT I RECHECKED THE ORIGINAL SOIL AGAIN... AND IT CLAIMED THAT IT HAD A ABUNDANT AMOUNT OF PHOSPURUS... HOWEVER... IM STILL REALLY CONFUSED!!! HELP!
HELP!!! Day 31 of indoor grow, and seeing BIG trouble! HELP
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kingofqueen
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Holy hell ! Start over and research first?
BBYY
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omg batman!
If its drooping and not curling its over watering for sure.
Maybe slowing your mind down and taking a pill for anxiety will be a good start.
If there is a possibility of anything i would guess your right.
your just worried. reference threw this site and you will see 100's of remedies and close calls like yours. Once the soil dries out flush it and restart your feeding regiment.
Also for any future problems a photo will help tremendously.
Its kind useless to post for help and not include a photo
If its drooping and not curling its over watering for sure.
Maybe slowing your mind down and taking a pill for anxiety will be a good start.
If there is a possibility of anything i would guess your right.
your just worried. reference threw this site and you will see 100's of remedies and close calls like yours. Once the soil dries out flush it and restart your feeding regiment.
Also for any future problems a photo will help tremendously.
Its kind useless to post for help and not include a photo
I apologize for rant.. no need to be redicule me... this is my first grow as I'm sure is evident, I am researching the site as well, but just wanted to get the problem out there to the community. The leaves are not necessarily drooping but more curling, and a couple are completely turned ass backwards... The leaves just look off if you know what I mean.. Well if anyone wants to chip in some advice feel free.
Working on the pictures.. its 12 hours of darkness right now... once light begins ill get some pics. I've gave it a quart and half of water 2 days ago... and another quart and half 2 days before that... Plant is 16 inches tall, by 16 inches wide. I'm buying a moisture meter as well.. so maybe we'll get to the bottom of this
Btw, the growing median is just a store bought mix added perlite to it as well, growing in a 3 gallon pot too. Lights are 4 42watt cfl's. Temp stays between 76 and 80 degrees... I hope I didn't screw everything up by adding the woodash... the the original P test, said it was lacking. Then got curious, after I added the woodash and retested the soil and said it was abundant in P... damn cheap nute testers. I know i panicked.. but who don't on their first ever grow problem.
luciferateme
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everyone makes mistakes on there first grow, its the best way to learn what to do. when you do something wrong and make a mess, you know not to do it again. most soils will have enough nutes to last a plant 3-4 weeks depending on the growth rate of the plant. with it being your first grow i would advise just keeping an eye on your ph and keep that in check. one thing you dont want to do is overwater. overwatering and nutes are gonna cause biggest problems on your first grow. learn how to judge by lifting the pot when the soil is dry and damp. theres a big difference in weight in a 3 gallon pot. your in the 12/12 stage now so you will still need to give small amounts of nitrogen ferts for the next couple of weeks and then introduce bloom nutes very slowly until you get to the right amount that is suitable for your plants. one thing you want to do is keep fresh air at the plants its very important, also get a small fan to move the air about but not too powerful. anything you buy now will last a long time and pay for itself in no time.
good luck with your grow and dont worry too much, these plants grow fine in the wild without any intervention so dont worry too much about things and then make bigger mistakes trying to correct a problem that wasnt there in the first place. if you get what i mean. i do babble sometimes!
lu
good luck with your grow and dont worry too much, these plants grow fine in the wild without any intervention so dont worry too much about things and then make bigger mistakes trying to correct a problem that wasnt there in the first place. if you get what i mean. i do babble sometimes!
lu
I get what you mean, def understand the babble, do it too often. I checked the N with a cheap tester and it said that it had an abundant amount of N. Think I should still slowly add N? Also pH is 7.. the water is adjusted to 6.5 that I water, however the next watering I will adjust it to 6.0 to bring it down a hair. There is a fan going at all times, with and exhaust fan as well. Im no experienced garden.. Just a guy who loves mary jane, and is tired of dealing with dealers.. The last 6 months I've been on a pretty intense chemotherapy regimin, and am living proof that mary jane is a miracle drug when it comes to combating chemo side effects. So I figd its time to get my grow on!
luciferateme
Active Member
the best thing to do is not base everything too much on those cheap testers, they are not calibrated properly and will only give false readings. as long as you keep the soil ph to about 6.5 then you will be ok, the only thing with phing your soil to 6 is that the nutes can lower it again and before you know it the soil ph is 5.5 and your in trouble. keep it at 6.5 for now. if you know you have enough n in your soil then just give water. only give nutes 1 in everything 3rd watering unless your plants tell you something different. sometimes when you look at the plant any probs will just pop into your head. growing weed is a lot of dont fix what isnt broken. so for now just water but not yet, i think you have maybe over watered and that is why your leaves are curled up. so just leave the plant to its own devices for a while and if theres anything you are unsure of just ask. if you dont want to post in forum then just pm me. cannabis is a great drug for chemo side effects, cant go into it too much but know too well. good luck with the grow and hope your health improves also.
chin up
lu
chin up
lu
Good news, I believe it was an overwatering issue. thanks alot lu. my next question is.. is it too late to take a clone from one of the bottom nodes? it has been flowering for 16 days, didnt know if its too late to switch one of the nodes back into veg state?? thanks again
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CHUCKTYLAH
Active Member
If your over watering you need to get better soil and drainage. I could dump 10 gallons of water through my 5 gal buckets and not ever water them. 3 gallon buckets could be rootbound too. You can take clones now just fine.
luciferateme
Active Member
as chuki said its fine time for clones but make sure to get some perlite mixed in with soil for your next grow, it will help the water flow much better through the soil. make sure you get a shrp knife aswell for cutting the clones and try not to get too much air in the bottom of the cutting. get hold of some cloning gel aswell. clonex works very well.
good luck
lu
good luck
lu
luciferateme
Active Member
yes the rooting stuff should be fine. some guys use 50 percent perlite and have good results but myself i use a little less. 60/40 is a happy medium for me. if you ever take cuttings again then you should get a propagator as they only cost about 10 euro for a basic model.
lu
lu
cannabisguru
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simple solution here: flush your medium out. simply flush out the medium with fresh pH-adjusted water. You'll want to make sure that you use enough water though.. and to do that, you'll need to measure the size of your pots (1 gallon? 2gallon? 1/2gallon?). Whatever container size you use.. you'll want to multiply that by 3.. and that will give you the amount of water you need.
good luck.
peace.
Ok, one part of the whole growing process that I don't quite understand is the "flushing".. If my plant is already overwatered won't adding more water just mess it up more? Obviously it won't if your telling me to do, but just wondering the idea behind it? using a 3 gal pot btw.. Thanks for the advice
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CHUCKTYLAH
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You can't flush the plant if it's overwatered all you can do is learn from your mistakes. I buy just about any potting soil I can get on sale. Add some perlite to it and some fine sand from my creek bed out back. fill the bottom 2-3 inches of the bucket with small stones and a layer of felt over the stones. I make a test bucket and adjust the mixture of sand perlite and potting soil untill I can pour any amount of water on it I want without over watering. If I was you I would cut clones and start some new ones and see how this one goes.
redeyez420
Member
i experienced all those droopy/curling leaf problems before when i first started haha, some pictures would help and for sure i could give you some input