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Help Diagnosing my plants

doobnVA

doobnVA

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maximus316 said:
yes i know that soil dug up from the earth had nutes in it naturally but somthing like promix has only mirco nutes in it, NO NPK AT ALL!!!! I suppose your now gonna tell me that promix also has nutes in it, so the people that make this stuff lie? right?
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Promix, you say? Promix is NOT SOIL, it's a peat-based, SOILLESS growing medium. Not soil at all.
 
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flipsidesw

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Well if your using straight tap water there lies a big problem.. I doubt that mix will burn your plant. Your tap water is prolly around 8 or even higher.. Thats gonna "lock out" the nutrients making them unusable to the plant. Most of the time lockouts show up as a multi discoloration.. Burnt tips and N defficency is good indicator of a lock out..

Im still curious about the that blackness i saw in that second pic.. If it showing up in the new growth you need to address very quickly..
 
doobnVA

doobnVA

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I don't see this blackness in the second pic?

OP: What kind of CFL are you using? How many watts, color temp? How far away from the plants is it?

You say you're using "A" CFL? Just one? I'd say the problem is probably light, since the plants are obviously being supported by dowel rods meaning the stems are weak (from stretching to the light).

More light.
 
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flipsidesw

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Yea they are a bit stretchy... One cfl is plenty light for those 2 lil ladies.. It just not close enough......

Also those plants dont look like they are being supported by the sticks.. Just looks like hes got sticks next to plants for what ever reason..

The blackness is definately there.. Look closer
 
doobnVA

doobnVA

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If it's a 26W or 13W CFL, it IS NOT enough for even one plant, let alone multiple plants (no way to get them all close enough to the bulb).

I keep 2 42W bulbs and 2 26W bulbs on each of my plants, starting from the time they break the soil and open their leaves. Unless he's using a 100 or 150W bulb, I'm still going to say light is the issue.
 
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flipsidesw

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I use one 42 watt cfl for my cuttings a seedlings. I keep it right on top of propagation dome..(I use small cuts). Its enough to get em started...

I the blackness im seeing is a phophorus deficiency most likely.. The website says most people mistake this for a fungus so maybe im most people LOL.. Anyways heres where i got the details on that...

http://www.greenmanspage.com/guides/plant_abuse.html

More light is will help his plants but it isnt gonna fix a ph or nutrient problem...
 
doobnVA

doobnVA

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All I see is a little darkening around the edges of the leaves, is this what you're talking about? I've blown up the image and zoomed in til there's no tomorrow, and that's all I can see. I figured it was just discoloring from the camera itself.
 
doobnVA

doobnVA

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I can see the picture just fine, I assure you it looks the same to me as it does to you, but I can't see ANY black on any of the plants.


I've outlined the darkening around the edges I DO see, but again, It looks like this is a "trick of the light" caused by the camera and not actually discoloration of the leaves. But I could be wrong.
 

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howlerwolf1313

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I've got a 125 watt Compact Fluorescent bulb with a CRI rating of 93, 6500 K. The stretching is a result of the week my plants only had regular sunlight before i had my bulb. So you guys think it may be because of the ph? Which may be because of the slow release noots that are burning the plant? Or something else? Once again thanks for the help.
 
doobnVA

doobnVA

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howlerwolf1313 said:
I've got a 125 watt Compact Fluorescent bulb with a CRI rating of 93, 6500 K. The stretching is a result of the week my plants only had regular sunlight before i had my bulb. So you guys think it may be because of the ph? Which may be because of the slow release noots that are burning the plant? Or something else? Once again thanks for the help.
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The NPK ratio of your soil is so low, there's no way in hell your plants are nutrient burned. The ph could be off, but if you're not feeding them this isn't likely.

I'd start feeding them, it's probably a case of UNDERnuting since everything else seems to be in order.
 
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flipsidesw

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Ya man get your ph around 6-6.5. That should get em on the right track.. Just fyi now since you have some damage to leaves, to diagnose further youll need to watch the new growth and disregard the rest..

You are wrong man give it up,, you can see on all 3 pics and they are different angles and distances.........................
 
doobnVA

doobnVA

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flipsidesw said:
Ya man get your ph around 6-6.5. That should get em on the right track.. Just fyi now since you have some damage to leaves, to diagnose further youll need to watch the new growth and disregard the rest..

You are wrong man give it up,, you can see on all 3 pics and they are different angles and distances.........................
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6 is too low for growing in soil. 6.5-7 would be ideal.

Anyway, if he isn't feeding the plants then the ph shouldn't be too far off unless the water he's using is effed up.

I don't see any black on any of the plants, I don't know how wrong I can be about that. You've yet to point out this "blackening" that you claim to see, and so far your advice has been less than stellar (ph of 6 for SOIL? ORLY? root rot? How do you tell that by looking at the leaves? LOL!).


Original poster, I do recommend you check the ph of your soil and the water you give your plants. I also recommend you start feeding them. They're big enough to handle a light dose of fertilizers every so often.
 
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howlerwolf1313

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Ive got 20-20-20 noots in powder form that mixes with water. I mixed with standard amount of water and im curious as to if i should spray or just pour it in the soil. Also, how often?
 
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