Help!!! Droopy plant, need a medic. Pics.

Perma Baked

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My plants got powdery mildew about a week ago, I let it spread to all 3 of my plants. I just sprayed them down with Seranade Garden Disease Control yesterday, today one of them appears to be dying. I thought it might be from over watering or something, but I picked it up and it feels pretty light, like I should maybe water again. I've been feeding them big bloom and tiger bloom with a bit of hydrozyme ph adjusted to 6ish. Only one of them is sick, the other two look fine so I don't know what's up. What should I do?
 

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BCBuddy420

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If you know forsure that it needs water... water it. Plants generally almost always droop from over/under watering. You may wanna spray rinse the leaves off again in the near future to get that disease garden spray stuff off, give it just a water flush with 8 ml/per gallon of the 'zyme and water good if it's needs it! Post how it's doing tomorrow, I bet it will perk right up, cheerz :)
 

Cali chronic

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I agree watering is good, Fungus? might want to isolate Did you know A virus or fungus can be transferred to plant like a human via dirty instruments shears etc...?
I hear Neem oil is a real help in infest situations it is a dipping process.I watched Seemore Buds 3 of his videos on grows and challenges and that was a number one thing for fungi spider--- like that. After this one you gotta scrub that room and tools. 20% bleach solution. Hopefully your other insecticed or fungi fighter did the trick for you. And a good watering is what she needs. However I notice when I use spray for out door veggie garden I noticed a droop the Stomata gets clogged and basicly her mouth where she breathes gets asthma from the posion--- but you gotta do what you gotta do to save her. You can bath her Stomata in few days but you want that fungi gone without too many applications. I mean ---you are injesting that. I think that is why the oil is preferred? Anyways H20 in a spray bottle with a few drops of dish soap after you get done with that regime you can wait a couple of weeks them wash her down in the morn before the heat. Let us know how it goes.
 

Perma Baked

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I agree watering is good, Fungus? might want to isolate Did you know A virus or fungus can be transferred to plant like a human via dirty instruments shears etc...?
I hear Neem oil is a real help in infest situations it is a dipping process.I watched Seemore Buds 3 of his videos on grows and challenges and that was a number one thing for fungi spider--- like that. After this one you gotta scrub that room and tools. 20% bleach solution. Hopefully your other insecticed or fungi fighter did the trick for you. And a good watering is what she needs. However I notice when I use spray for out door veggie garden I noticed a droop the Stomata gets clogged and basicly her mouth where she breathes gets asthma from the posion--- but you gotta do what you gotta do to save her. You can bath her Stomata in few days but you want that fungi gone without too many applications. I mean ---you are injesting that. I think that is why the oil is preferred? Anyways H20 in a spray bottle with a few drops of dish soap after you get done with that regime you can wait a couple of weeks them wash her down in the morn before the heat. Let us know how it goes.
I can't isolate because I'm growing indoor in my closet. It's about a 2.5x4x7 tent with a 600w HPS air cooled hood and exhausted. It still gets pretty hot in there so I try to spray at the beginning when they turn on (8 PM). I think it's probably too late to foliar spray them now, so I'm just going to flush it with a little regular water, like 25 fl oz to each and see what happens by tomorrow. I added a fan to blow on the lower canopies and added about 800w of CFLs (8x 100w equiv. bulbs, not true 800w) to try to perk them up a bit. Here's some pics of the others.
 

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Perma Baked

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Decided to feed them 3/4 strength nutes with some hygrozyme. About 35 fl oz to the droopy one, 25 to the others. Will post back tomorrow.
 

Perma Baked

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Decided to feed them 3/4 strength nutes with some hygrozyme. About 35 fl oz to the droopy one, 25 to the others. Will post back tomorrow.
I checked on them this morning right before they went to sleep (8 AM) to see how they changed over the course of the night. They don't really look much better. I am going to flush them with some R.O. water + molasses tomorrow and see if it helps.

I have been looking at pictures and researching a little bit about using Fox Farm Tiger Bloom and Big Bloom and I read that it might not have enough Nitrogen to keep the thicker foliage happy, which would make semi-sense. A lot of the lower branches leaves are getting droopy and although most of the leaves are getting dark, a few of them are turning an extremely light green, yellowing a little bit. I think it might be a result of Nitrogen deficiency.

Also, what do you guys think about the other two? They look RELATIVELY healthy, but they could be better. I don't know if the yellowing edges are nute burn or what. Some of the leaves look all contorted and twisted, almost like someone rolled them between their fingers or something. Ideas?
 

usinwatts

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Bleach is only a temperairy fix for mold and mildew even at 100% strength. You'll want to use a peroxide, grapefruit seed oil, or a vinegar baking soda mix to kill that shit. What I've been finding out about the Powdery Headache is to thin the plants out then get some leaf shine on them. Google "milk and powdery mildew" guess it can help control the problem and feed the plant as well.
 

budforever442200

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You can also get some grow and mix it in with the bloom to perk up the green growth. and for the P.M. sulfar burner if you can. Good Luck!
 

Perma Baked

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I might have already posted this, but this is my plan as of right now. I've been feeding them 1/3 cup of big bloom and 1/3 cup of tiger bloom per 5 gallons of water with a little squirt of hygrozyme. They already look loads better from when I first posted this, I think it was just slightly under watered. I've been using an AquaShuttle with a cheap Home Depot fountain pump that I don't think was strong enough to disperse the water evenly among the plants. I'm watering by hand now. They are burning very slightly- enough that they are still growing, but the edges of some of the leaves are definitely burning a bit. I'm going to flush them with 2 gallons of water each tomorrow, then give them a half feeding of TB and BB with a little added veg fert to try to make those bottom leaves look a little nicer. I'm thinking the cause of the yellowing/drooping is a nitrogen deficiency, which I read happens during flowering.

Do you think that if I add a little nitrogen into the mix it will add time to the flowering process? Also, do you think it would be wise to add some molasses to the H20 during the flush? The bud sights are just now started to form crystals (I'm about half way through week 3 of 12/12).

I also believe I have a bug problem because I found what looked like a few chewed leaves and a hole through one, but it could have also been from foliar feeding. I'm going to stop foliar feeding and see if the problem goes away.
 

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Update: I "flushed" the 3 plants with 5 gallons of R.O. water and 2 tbsp per gallon. I know this isn't enough to really constitute as a flush, but it takes forever for the R.O. water to fill a 5 gal, lol. The OG and the Vortex loved it, the MK is now extremely burned (but still looking good). I'm assuming this has something to do with the size of the plants- as you can see the MK is much smaller than the others, which I'm assuming means it can't handle the same amount of PPMs as the others. I'm going to continue feeding the 2 larger plants with their normal 1/3 cup feeding, but I'm going to keep hitting the MK with water until the burns start to go away. The leaves are burned pretty bad (I lost a few fan leaves) but the colas are still growing. I will take pictures of said nutrient burn and the magic of R.O water + molasses on the others soon.
 
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