HELP!!!!Fan leaves dying and i cant figure out whats wrong...

ganjaluva2009

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That is not a phosphorus problem it's either potassium or magnesium deficiency and this problem can be diognosed within days of overnuting. I would suggest getting a ph/ppm tester,make sure ph is around 6.5 for soil,and ppm is balanced to your plants needs. You also do not want your fan leaves to die unless they are not needed,most people cut them off anyway for super cropping purposes. But if they are dying unpurposely then your nutes,lighting,co2,temp,or humidity could be off, depending on the issue.
thanks for the input smokie. I think we def have it norrowed down to the magesium, so im giving it the epson salt and seeing where we go from here. Its all a waiting game
 

ganjaluva2009

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Hey everyone. Whats goin on? This shit sucks. just let me say that. I thought i was getting all my problems straightened out. I raised the lights to avoid the heat stress, foliar feed and was waiting for my pots to dry out, so i could water with plain water. Everything was going fine, until i went down to get some flics for my journal, and the plants looked like they had a rough fucking night. Alot more leaves are doing the same shit as before, so it obvious, my prob is not fixed, so back to the drawing board. Im cutting this short, cause honestly im so pissed, im going back to bed. Fucking plants. See for urself Ganja
 

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jondamon

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If i were you Ganja i would go back to my original recommendation of a good flush using a flushing additive.

Then plain water for 2 waterings.

Then back on at half the strength you are currently using and just go water water feed until you see improvement.

Once improvement returns you can then look to go to 3/4 your strength or try water feed water feed at your 1/2 strength.


Can you confirm the temps at your canopy level?

Have you fixed the heat issue?

J
 

ganjaluva2009

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If i were you Ganja i would go back to my original recommendation of a good flush using a flushing additive.

Then plain water for 2 waterings.

Then back on at half the strength you are currently using and just go water water feed until you see improvement.

Once improvement returns you can then look to go to 3/4 your strength or try water feed water feed at your 1/2 strength.


Can you confirm the temps at your canopy level?

Have you fixed the heat issue?

J
thats what i am doing now. Watering with plain distilled water. I did put a lens kit in the lights, so its right at 80 with lights on at the top of my canopy so thats not to bad. So ill just see what happens from here. I did all i can do at this point...Ganja
 

freethoughexchange

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I am sorry to say that you have a bunch of different compounded problems. The first big mistake is the use of Fox Farm soil. You have to be very careful with that stuff because it has an unbalanced supply of nutes in the soil, so even when adding recommended doses, it will burn your plant (I found that out the hard way). Second, you may have a calcium/magnesium deficiency but it is probably being caused by excess nitrogen blocking it, and not necessarily a lack there of. Little to no nitrogen is needed this late in flowering and I have found that even when flushing Fox Farm soil, the problem is not easily remedied. I would not suggest foliar feeding unless it is with the lights out, otherwise you are going to further compound the other problems (heat stress, moisture, poor circulation). I tried trimming/pruning my fan leaves and it only sent the plant further into shock. Anything done to a plant including flushing is shock to a plant and it needs time to recover. Switching back and forth between different remedies is only going to help drive urself crazy and won't pinpoint the problem. I know you don't wanna hear this while your plant is "dying" but you have to try one thing at a time and give it (the plant) a chance to correct itself. I am going through the exact same thing and one of the first problems I was able to pin-point and fix was air circulation. I thought it was everything from deficiences, to bugs, to just being cursed...lol. This not only happened to my plants that were flowering, but to two plants during veg, so I don't think your doing that bad. The only thing that is telling me is that the problem has to be environmental or a problem with the ph/nutes. I will keep you posted, but try not to panic to much (if that's possible). Trust, I thought abt throwing all my plants out the window yesterday.
 

dudeoflife

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Hey Ganja- These are pics BEFORE you flushed the medium, correct?

Because things can get a little worse sometimes before they get a little better...
 

ganjaluva2009

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Hey Ganja- These are pics BEFORE you flushed the medium, correct?

Because things can get a little worse sometimes before they get a little better...
yes dude, u are correct, those pics are before i flushed everything out...just gotta let mother nature fix herself now.....Just a little update guys...there is substantial difference in how the plants are looking and guess what.....ITS FOR THE BETTER....fuckin A..finally...So ill be posting some new post flushing pics in the next day or so, so check back and see if u guys notice a difference and let me know what u think...Peace and hair grease...Ganja
 

dudeoflife

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"Peace and hair grease" LOL. I'm gonna use that one someday...

Anyhow, I am happy to hear the report.

Fuckin' A!
 

freethoughexchange

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yes dude, u are correct, those pics are before i flushed everything out...just gotta let mother nature fix herself now.....Just a little update guys...there is substantial difference in how the plants are looking and guess what.....ITS FOR THE BETTER....fuckin A..finally...So ill be posting some new post flushing pics in the next day or so, so check back and see if u guys notice a difference and let me know what u think...Peace and hair grease...Ganja
Good to hear...See I told you to stop freaking out...lol. Everything is fixed/changes with time...
 

ganjaluva2009

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Good to hear...See I told you to stop freaking out...lol. Everything is fixed/changes with time...
yeah i know..but u know how it is..we put so much time in effort into these things that they are like out kids...but im definetly sleepin better at night now, so a big thanks to , gudkharma, dudeoflife,jondamon and freethroughexchange. If i missed anyone else..thanks a million...everybody helped actually..and thats truely what this site is supposed to be about, correct?...so yall on the flip...Ganja
 
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