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Help first organic mix

Doc Diggler

New Member
Hi all, new to RIU as this is my first post.

I was interested in trying out an organic grow, with more less straight water, although I understand that a tea here and there does wonders so I am open to the concept.

I've been reading a lot of different recipes (makes my eyes bleed), mixes and such but have a hard time finding the same types of brands, NPK ratios used in said recipes, even online due to my location (Canada) and not being in a large city with more options.

Over the past few weeks and scouring my city and the internet and enough $$$ later I think I have accumulated more than enough for a couple different great organic mixes and was going to get started but figured I should bite the bullet and get some good down to earth advice as I dont want to screw up by experimenting and wasting my time.

List of what I have

For a base I have Sunshine Mix#4(old bail in my shed), and ProMix HP mycorrhizae.

Seasoil original(im new can't create link)
From what I've read its pretty good stuff, Ive read 2parts base to one part seasoil, light neuts then regular during bloom, but i want to stay organic so additional amendments for sure.

Triple mix (on steroids) composted by university students raising $$ for food bank. 24-8-16
Their description "Our multi mix is comprised of mycorrhizae for plant inoculation and nutrient symbiosis, aged manure for nitrogen, top soil for growth medium, bone meal for phosphorous, and composted food scraps for everything in between!"
Seems hot for my aplication and needs to be cut, less N/K and then ammended for more P. I'm unsure so thats why I'm here.

Way to Grow, african night crawler Earth Worm Casings.

Buried Treasure Peruvian Seabird Guano 12-10-3, it shows directions for tea and topdressing but wondered if i could mix it right into a base.

Gaia Green alfalfa meal 3-0-3, rock phoshate 0-8-0, glacial rock dust which has magnesium colbalt, iron, manganese.

Down to Earth greensand.

Perlite, I've used before in soiless

To my understanding with organic, mixing it up and letting it sit for awhile is good but to get started I'd looking for a mix that may sit for 2 weeks before getting used. Then batching some that can sit for awhile for my next application.

Autos in 3 gallon pots, advanced platinum p450 led light.

I greatly appreciate anyone taking the time to help me out. If theres anything xtra i need to add as far as amendments im game.

Many different ways to batch im sure.
 
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papa canna

Well-Known Member
I am also starting my first organic grow. I'll tell you a couple things ive read repeatedly a bit that i've read in the last couple of weeks. i repeatedly read that lower npk values are suitable for organic growing. people cite bat guanos burning plants if your not careful because their npk is often 10+ in some value and can easily be overdone. I just started my first organic plants so I'm just letting you know what i've read.
 

Richard Drysift

Well-Known Member
Don't worry about having even NPK values; it's not as important as having good sources of active composted material in your mix. The triple mix has super high numbers & could probably burn them. Cut it down with lots of perlite and coco coir to spread all that good stuff around. Never used seasoil but it's OMRI & looks to be pretty good stuff judging by the online ads.
Save the guano for teas; it's a very good at increasing bacterial populations when bubbled with molasses. You can add it globally but you probably don't need to with all the other stuff you have on hand. Mix the alfalfa, RP, rock dust, greensand, perlite, and everything else you got into a bigass tote bin or something and let it set for 30 days at least before using it.
It ought to be a rather stout mix so if you have young clones or seedlings with tender roots cut it way down with coco and perlite or just reuse your old soil without any amendments to start them off. Good luck and happy growing!
 

Doc Diggler

New Member
Yea, moderation indeed, thats why I'm here. Ive read that guano can give you hot spots and need to mix well, good luck on yours. I did get a little spend happy picking up stuff. It will all get used eventually. Cheers!
 

Doc Diggler

New Member
Don't worry about having even NPK values; it's not as important as having good sources of active composted material in your mix. The triple mix has super high numbers & could probably burn them. Cut it down with lots of perlite and coco coir to spread all that good stuff around. Never used seasoil but it's OMRI & looks to be pretty good stuff judging by the online ads.
Save the guano for teas; it's a very good at increasing bacterial populations when bubbled with molasses. You can add it globally but you probably don't need to with all the other stuff you have on hand. Mix the alfalfa, RP, rock dust, greensand, perlite, and everything else you got into a bigass tote bin or something and let it set for 30 days at least before using it.
It ought to be a rather stout mix so if you have young clones or seedlings with tender roots cut it way down with coco and perlite or just reuse your old soil without any amendments to start them off. Good luck and happy growing!
Thanks, I'll keep guano for tea.
 

Doc Diggler

New Member
Don't worry about having even NPK values; it's not as important as having good sources of active composted material in your mix. The triple mix has super high numbers & could probably burn them. Cut it down with lots of perlite and coco coir to spread all that good stuff around. Never used seasoil but it's OMRI & looks to be pretty good stuff judging by the online ads.
Save the guano for teas; it's a very good at increasing bacterial populations when bubbled with molasses. You can add it globally but you probably don't need to with all the other stuff you have on hand. Mix the alfalfa, RP, rock dust, greensand, perlite, and everything else you got into a bigass tote bin or something and let it set for 30 days at least before using it.
It ought to be a rather stout mix so if you have young clones or seedlings with tender roots cut it way down with coco and perlite or just reuse your old soil without any amendments to start them off. Good luck and happy growing!
Yea sounds good, when I'm more alert(sober) I will post a formulated mix from advice given for some feedback.

Never tried coco, hear lots of great things about , just the sunshine mix was available when i first started what I'm used too. I'd try coco. Just need to use up what I have.
 

Richard Drysift

Well-Known Member
If you have a lot of spent soil laying around you can cut your mix down with that and forgo the coco for now. Coconut husk is a good medium for the microherd to colonize along with the perlite and will help cut all that N down instantly.
 
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