Help Grandma grow!

Hello everybody

I really like your forums, I have been looking at many things here, and have learned almost everything I think that I need to learn, but there are some things that my situations is sort of different...and I hoped someones could help me a little

So I should talk more about my particular situations.

I live with my Grandma and she is old. She has bad pains from arthiritus, and in her back and hip joins and the medicine that she takes makes her stomach bad too. Soooo....I find that marijuana makes her feel a bit more good. And it is natural and healthy....bbbuuuuutt.....it is also expensive and very illegal here - nobodie do drugs, it is a drinking country (thankyou Mother Russia!)

We live in the country many distances away from any towns, and even if we could go to town, we could not afford generally to buy it there so I would like to grow a plant or two for her and her back, (and maybe a little for me, even though I am young and my back does not hurt now!

I have looked lots on your forums, and on other forums too. But I have some questions that I don't think are in other questions, and my English makes looking very long. Speaking is easy, reading about things like this is tough. Everybodie has a different opinions and nobodie agrees and all the talk is full of technical language and jargons yes.

Soooo....this is what I think.


I want to grow maybe one, or if I can two plants at once. We do not need much. But money is also a problem. In that we have not much. Everybodie disagrees on the forums what is minimum you need to grow a plant. But I think from what I see.... that

CFL is my only options for price

And with CFL I need

I need at least one 125w bulb, maybe with a two more 40w on the side for proper growing.

I have a closet, that is big, more than 190 cm (maybe 6 and a bit foot) and it is 45cm (maybe 2 foot) deep, and is 100cm (maybe 4 foot) wide. I think I need to paint it white inside, and maybe add foily paper from cooking?

We do not have neighbours, we live in the woods many miles from other people, so am I right in thinking I need no fans? I didn't really understand, is the fan for blowing plants cold, or making the smell go away? Can I have a closet without a fan yes?

The problems other that I have are it is cold in Latvia. My grandma and me, we live together in an old house, and we only have wooden heating, so when we sleep it is cold, maybe down to 5 degree in between hours of 12 in the night and 7 in the morning. If I was to cover my closet in blankets, and make my light time at night so I get heat of lights does this work? Yes?

Another problems that we have is we do not seem to be possible to buy CFL lights here (I think they are for eco friendly - and we have no eco friendly!) Is there a website that can send things like lights and the fixtures y shaped and cables to Latvia for cheap?

Thankyou, i know I have many questions, but I really really want somebodie to hold my hand. We do not have lots of money and even budget things seem expsensive. I can't get this wrong.

Thankyou lots....big kisses

Tascha

if you lived by me I would just give you some meds so she could feel better. but I would suggest getting a http://www.htgsupply.com/Product-HTG-Supply-4-Foot-2-Lamp-High-Output-T5-Fixture best light penetration will easily do what your asking of it. it comes with a set of bulbs. you can but the 2 outher bulbs for about 10 dollars us. if you cant afford that just get the 6500k white ones use that will be alright. I use this light been running 24 hours a day for 2 years. no problems just a simple bulb replacement . I think this is what you were asking. hope were helping

Latvia? Not sure..try here.
http://www.aliexpress.com/ check it out.

The fan I'd basically making the stem stronger and cooling it off a little you could probably get away with not using one if your just growing with flors.

Thankyou very much Mr KindDiesel for your offer, you are indeed a very kind diesel I would like to know people here who grow these plants, but it is not something anybodie here does. If I could I would just buy, but a gram here costs nearly the same as your $20 and people earn not a lot, and this is only in cities, not in country like we are.

As for the websites, and thankyou too Mr Ringsixty, but they are for American markets only.

I also meant to add a ps...apologies if the questions is already asks, but my English is good in speaking, not so good in reading and writing, and we have none forums like these to ask questions in my language.

Thanksyou

Tascha

Oh, and sorry, I didn't mention you Mr KushDc. I'm not quite sure what you mention, but I think you say that no fan is needed? Which is good yes

I was sort of hoping for a 'guide for idiots who don't speak English great and have cold rooms and no clues.' Which I think you people have already started to help with well.

Thanks again

Tascha.

get an oscillating fan, a 15 minute interval timer(light duty should be fine), chain, and screw in hooks. buy a 4 bulb.bath light fixture, 4 lightbulb t's (splitters) and two sets of cfl bulbs, and a piece of metal ducting (the shiny stuff). An 8 pack of 3000k-3500k CFL and an 8 pack of 6500k-7000k CFLS. (The K is very important to know because there are two types of bulbs used, one for flowering on for growing. Look on the back of the lightbulb box for this )

then you take the ducting, cut it the long way to make two wings. you screw these wings and the bath bar fixture onto a piece of wood. Wiring is easy, just follow directions (you may need a cord from something else and wire nuts)

set up the fan so it circulates but doesn't constantly blow on the plant (wiggling the leaves a little is perfect)

use 7 6500k bulbs and 1 3500k bulb for vegetation stage. this requires at least 18 hours of the lights being on (but you can have the lights go constantly 24 hours a day)
then use 1 6500k bulb and 7 3500k bulbs for flowering stage. This requires no more than 12 hours of lighting a day (I always do 12 hours on, 12 hours off) but no less than 10


now on the back side you take your screw in hooks and put them in, and then you add 2 more hooks where you want to hang it from in your closet. Since you use chain, it's easy to adjust.

You don't want the fan to blow directly at the plants and you also want the room to be 70-80 when the lights are on and 60-70 when the lights are off.

Take emergency blankets, also known as space blankets and staple them with the shiney side out to the walls. A good trick is staple small pieces of cardboard onto the blanket so it doesn't rip easily. This will allow more light to the plants

Mylar works the same as emergency blankets.

as for soil i'm sure you can figure out the botany of it all. A good NPK ratio for weed is 2-1-3.


while building , be sure to fasten everything well and make sure it's safe. It's always good to prevent fires by using new cords and equipment, and making sure everything is rated for the amount of electricity that you use.

получитьколеблющийся вентилятор , 15-минутный интервал таймер ( малой грузоподъемности должно быть прекрасно ) , цепи, и винт в крючки. купить 4 bulb.bath светильник , 4 лампочки Т ( разветвители ) и два комплекта ламп CFL и кусок металла воздуховодов (блестящий материа&#1083. 8 пачку 3000K- 3500K CFL и8 пачку 6500K -7000K CFLS . (К очень важно знать , потому что есть два типа лампы, используемые , по одному для цветения на для выращивания . Посмотрите на обратной сторонекоробки лампочки для этог&#1086


Затем вы берете на себя воздуховоды, сократить егодолгий путь , чтобы сделать два крыла . вы испортить эти крылья и прибор ванны баре на кусок дерева. Подключение очень просто, достаточно следовать указаниям (может потребоватьсяшнур от чего-то еще и провода орехи )


вентилятора установить так он циркулирует , но не постоянно дуть на заводе ( шевелить уезжает немного идеально подходит )


использовать 7 6500k луковицы и 1 3500K лампа для вегетации . для этого требуется по крайней мере 18 часов том, что света на ( но вы можете иметьпостоянно гаснет свет 24 часа в сутки )
затем использовать 1 6500K лампа и 7 3500k лампы для цветения . Для этого требуется не более 12 часов освещения в день ( я всегда делаю на 12 часов , 12 часов в выключенном состояни&#1080 , но не менее 10




Теперь на обратной стороне вы берете свой винт крючка и положил их в , а затем добавить еще 2 крючками , где вы хотите , чтобы повесить его от в вашем шкафу. Так как вы используете цепи , легко настроить.


Вы же не хотите, чтобы вентилятор дует прямо на заводах и вы также хотите , что номер был 70-80 , когда свет и на 60-70 , когда свет выключен .


Принять экстренные одеяла, также известный как пространство одеяла и основным их стороне Shiney к стенам. Хорошим способом является основным небольшие кусочки картона на одеяло , чтобы он не сорвать легко. Это позволит большему количеству светарастения


Mylar работает так же, как аварийный одеял.


как для почвы я уверен, что вы можете выяснить,ботаники всего этого. Хорошим соотношением NPK для борьбы с сорняками является 2-1-3 .




в то время как здание , не забудьте закрепить все хорошо и убедиться, что это безопасно. Это всегда хорошо, для предотвращения пожаров с использованием новых проводов и оборудования, и убедившись, что все рассчитано на количество электроэнергии, которую вы используете.

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Latvia is an EU country so you can get your seeds from The Netherlands or other EU countries from my understanding in the mail. You can get grow supplies that way too.

http://www.hydroponics.eu/cfl-grow-light-s-297.html

Maybe you could get something here?

I don't know how much covering a closet with blankets and cfl will do for heat, the blankets will make air circulation hard though. You don't want to smother it.

Don't buy any electrical stuff from the states unless it's dual voltage and has an adapter plug.

T5 fluorescents are your best bet, you need a fan for constant air circulation, without one your plants will suffocate, seems that heat is your biggest problem, not sure how to fix that, paint the inside of your closet with flat white paint, that's all you need and is the best, get some good nutes, you may want to get a cheep ph pen, you can purchase these items at most on line stores. best of luck with your project, we're always here to help.

Hmmm, thankyou everyodie for lots of information.

I now know I do need a fan, maybe I can find one in a shop for computers, like the ones that cool the hard drive. To stop my plants from suffocation I could just cut a hole in the top of the cupboard and cover it with my tights to stop the light no?

The information about the lighting setups is good, but unfortunately, much too much much equipment. Really really, I was hoping that just one lamp could work - maybe the 125 from the internet, but maybe I could go to 3 maximums. Electricity isnt problem here. It is very unexspensive in countrysides.

Spasiba for Russian language translations! Google is very silly with English to Russian, but I understand some (my Russian is more bad than my English though sorry!) Young peoples now here we dont learn much Russian obligatory, but Grandma she understand everything!

I forget who sent it, but that linkage for hydroponics shop.eu is great - free postage to all of europe! Just very expensive products It is sad - these CFL lights seem to be very unexspensive in USA but very exspensive in Europa.

I think when I first thought this would be a good idea I was thinking it would be much more unexspensive and less hard!



Thankyou again, I still needs more research I am thinking. :s

Tascha xxx

Kukanitis said:

Hmmm, thankyou everyodie for lots of information.

I now know I do need a fan, maybe I can find one in a shop for computers, like the ones that cool the hard drive. To stop my plants from suffocation I could just cut a hole in the top of the cupboard and cover it with my tights to stop the light no?

The information about the lighting setups is good, but unfortunately, much too much much equipment. Really really, I was hoping that just one lamp could work - maybe the 125 from the internet, but maybe I could go to 3 maximums. Electricity isnt problem here. It is very unexspensive in countrysides.

Spasiba for Russian language translations! Google is very silly with English to Russian, but I understand some (my Russian is more bad than my English though sorry!) Young peoples now here we dont learn much Russian obligatory, but Grandma she understand everything!

I forget who sent it, but that linkage for hydroponics shop.eu is great - free postage to all of europe! Just very expensive products It is sad - these CFL lights seem to be very unexspensive in USA but very exspensive in Europa.

I think when I first thought this would be a good idea I was thinking it would be much more unexspensive and less hard!



Thankyou again, I still needs more research I am thinking. :s

Tascha xxx

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Its going to cost money no matter how much you try to avoid It. Don't forget you need little things too... I wouldn't get a small PC fan.. I would get a clip fan... I think your better off with several smaller cfl bulbs then one big one so you can place them around the plants because honestly CFls suck unless u got a lot of them that are close to the plant and even still it won't compare to hid results. I was on a budget too but I bought the stuff I needed and made it back within the first grow. Each additional grow after that was pure profit.

Don't forget you need to have a jar and hydrometer for curing, you need nutes,soil,pots, trich inspector to see when it's done etc.. It isn't like you just get lights and that's it... Your going to need a lot of stuff I would estimate at least 2-300 worth and even that's cheating out. I paid 1k for my first setup and got 3 ounces first grow.

If you are out in the country with no neighbors ( and I'm sure you have a spring summer) I'd find me a secluded spot out doors. doesn't help for winter but you could grow enough in the summer to supply ya'll all winter. no lights needed no fans or expensive nutes just good ole nature. and outdoors you can grow some monster plants. For what its worth just my take on your situation. Good luck and best wishes. PS your young and your back don't hurt YET LOL

I've been doing the same thing as you the past few days for my own personal stealth grow, and I think I know what you need.

First off you'll need to get a feminized seed so you don't waste your time.

For your heating problem use a small heater and set it up inside your closet somewhere where it isn't blowing directly onto the plant, make sure to use a thermostat to check the temperature so it's not getting to hot. Try to get one where there are multiple options of heat like low, medium, high, fan (I have a small one about 6" tall and it cost $15)

Get one like this - http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/151145845975?lpid=82

And making your light cycle go during night would help a lot. You need to get a thermostat to check all the temperatures out though so you know that it's not to hot/cold.


You don't have to worry about ventilation if there's nobody coming around that you don't want. But you need some sort of a fan(s) blowing inside your grow box to keep the air circulating so it doesn't get stale, I'm pretty sure almost any fan will work.

For your light bulbs you'll have to find somewhere that will ship CFL's to you unless you can find another bulb that'll work. HPS and other light sets I think cost more to run though because of the Ballast. Make sure your sockets where the light goes into supports the wattage of light you're using, so far I've only been able to find cords that support 75w max.


Also do research on low-stress-training, super-cropping, topping, and FIM'ing your plant so you can maximize your yield. LST is a must with a grow space like yours, I'm going to have almost the same one. Make sure to get some duct tape too because you can use it for a lot of different things when growing.

Hey all, thankyou all very very much. It is very wonderful to get this advice speifcically for me and my situations.
Special thanks and kisses to Mr Shakenbake - that is very lovely advice thankyou.

Anyway...regarding my situations...it got very good today - because I am thinking - if I am spending the moneys on doing this - I need to do it right to avoid wasting. It is better to spend some more moneys now, than waste all of it in growing a dead plant yes?

So I asked my father who lives in UK for help - and he will sending me money Not much much, but enough that I can do it with proper care and get good results. Sooo - I was thinking of being able to buy everything from hydroponics.eu that somebodie nicely gave.

I am temted by this full kit http://www.hydroponics.eu/KitConfig.aspx?ID=15 because I do not have lots of skills in electronics and i have been finding cfl bulbs is very exspensive here. For 6 littles ones, I would be spending the equivilent of 80 euros. That is without anything else like wires and holders and things. Then I am needing nutriants and all those and ph things and temperatures! So I think this is very good bargain no?! Or is it like many things too good too be true?

If it is good things, I can order and be growing in a week!

And yes I do want to be growing outside in summertimes, we have a nice garden with potatoes and carrots and things, so I think some friendly weeds would go nicely in there

Thanks very much

xxxx Taschaxxx

is all that pH and coco stuff really necessary? I have Family in latvia, they produce the best tasting vegs i ever ate. the soil they have is perfect and compost from the garden all that. here you can find plenty of reciepes. but then of course it would be more experimenting. because i found in latvia everything thats like imported is very expensive, even more exensive than in the richest countries in the EU. but i think all the "natural" things you would Need to create the perfect growing soil will be fairly cheap.

Yes we have amazing perfect lovely growing soil! I had just been starting to believe that everyones saying that coco and nutrients is better, but now I do more research and see that soil will be better for me as long as i treat it right. Cost saved.

I also think it is good to have a 150lamp, because I can do 12 12 at night and help keep them warm

But yes, very expensive for some things here - like the CFL bulbs.

Thanks

Tascha xxx